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Massive increase in Black Americans murdered was result of defund police movement: experts

Nope. We already incarcerate more than any other country in the world. Putting people in prison just doesn't address the actual issue.
I said the opposite of putting people in prison
 
Nope. We already incarcerate more than any other country in the world. Putting people in prison just doesn't address the actual issue.
You dont want to address the actual issue. Addressing the actual issue means you have to address the people actually causing the actual problem.
 
I said the opposite of putting people in prison
What do you suppose the impact of stopping mandatory minimum sentences would have?
 
You dont want to address the actual issue. Addressing the actual issue means you have to address the people actually causing the actual problem.
Help me out. What is the 'actual issue'?
 
Restore the middle class which is disappearing because democrats aren’t coming through on universal healthcare, tax reform, housing and education while Republicans have no intention of addressing those issues. Stop all mandatory minimums, turning small time drug dealers into lifetime inmates and stop arguing about a transgender swimmer and a book called racist baby.

Good start?
The problems you cite primarily occur in the majority minority communities in every major state across the country...cities run by democrats going back 6-13 decades. How the **** are you going to try to pin the solution (or for that matter, the problem) on people that have had absolutely zero control in those cities governments going all the way back to 1881?

As for those committing the violent crimes...as you pat them on the head and release them back into their communtiies, they are going to kill people...but hey...as long as they are killing black people...who really cares...amiright?
 
What do you suppose the impact of stopping mandatory minimum sentences would have?
Requiring that somebody who has x amount of marijuana = drug dealer, judge is incapable of giving a proper - lower - sentence - and it perpetuates the institutional incarceration. We create criminals with mandatory minimums instead of rehabilitating those who still can be rehabilitated. Simple
 
Help me out. What is the 'actual issue'?
Economic devastation in minority communities...the destruction of black American families...all of which typically occurs in the cities governed by the people YOU vote for.
 
Requiring that somebody who has x amount of marijuana = drug dealer, judge is incapable of giving a proper - lower - sentence - and it perpetuates the institutional incarceration. We create criminals with mandatory minimums instead of rehabilitating those who still can be rehabilitated. Simple
Mandatory minimums force the system to put people in jail, removing a judge's opportunity to do what they feel is just. I believe that mandatory minimums do far more to create criminals also, not sure where the disconnect is unless we have different definitions of mandatory minimum. This reflects my understanding.
"A mandatory minimum is a sentence, created by Congress or a state legislature, which the court must give to a person convicted of a crime, no matter what the unique circumstances of the offender or the offense are."
 
Economic devastation in minority communities...the destruction of black American families...all of which typically occurs in the cities governed by the people YOU vote for.
Too f'ing funny. Underserved communities that started in colonial times are now the fault of D mayors. R's have always been supporters of minority groups of all races, nationalities and sexual preference. Is that your claim?
 
The problems you cite primarily occur in the majority minority communities in every major state across the country...cities run by democrats going back 6-13 decades. How the **** are you going to try to pin the solution (or for that matter, the problem) on people that have had absolutely zero control in those cities governments going all the way back to 1881?

As for those committing the violent crimes...as you pat them on the head and release them back into their communtiies, they are going to kill people...but hey...as long as they are killing black people...who really cares...amiright?

Absolutely not. Kansas City, Omaha, would you call those liberal cities? They aren't. All over the country the middle class is dying. Mississippi had their homicide rate shoot up. Oakland was statistically safer in 2021 than Omaha. So you're just absolutely wrong there.

And you understand I'm talking specifically about non-violent criminals, right? They're impoverished and drug dealing is lucrative. Are you shocked people choose that life when they're born in an area where they have a 5% chance of becoming a high income earner (this is a statistic but it might be 10% and regarding the top 10% of income earners but that could be slightly wrong). It's not about black people vs. white people, though, it's about income inequality. This is the worst gap we've ever had. Progressives have been linking income inequality and abandoning the middle class with increased violence for decades. No surprise here. Healthcare, housing, and education.
 
Mandatory minimums force the system to put people in jail, removing a judge's opportunity to do what they feel is just. I believe that mandatory minimums do far more to create criminals also, not sure where the disconnect is unless we have different definitions of mandatory minimum. This reflects my understanding.
"A mandatory minimum is a sentence, created by Congress or a state legislature, which the court must give to a person convicted of a crime, no matter what the unique circumstances of the offender or the offense are."

I'm very confused because you just said the exact same thing I did but you said it like I didn't say it. ?
 
I'm very confused because you just said the exact same thing I did but you said it like I didn't say it. ?
I concur. Looks like I misinterpreted your original post. Oops
 
Too f'ing funny. Underserved communities that started in colonial times are now the fault of D mayors. R's have always been supporters of minority groups of all races, nationalities and sexual preference. Is that your claim?
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Your posts are such a ****ing joke.

Democrats have controlled Chicago since 1933. Atlanta democrat since 1879. Not a typo. New Orleans...1872. Portland...1972. Seattle...1969. Milwaukee has had a socialist or democrat mayor since 1916. Minneapolis...the home of the George Floyd killing...since 1961. Detroit since 1962. Shall I go on?

Leftist mayors, leftist city councils...all in exclusive control of those cities for numerous decades turning them to shitholes. Places like Baltimore where the public education system is so ****ed they cant find a single student in the school district that can pass both an English and math competency exam...........but its the republicans fault. Its the fault of the colonists.

rats just need more time................
 
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Your posts are such a ****ing joke.

Democrats have controlled Chicago since 1933. Atlanta democrat since 1879. Not a typo. New Orleans...1872. Portland...1972. Seattle...1969. Milwaukee has had a socialist or democrat mayor since 1916. Minneapolis...the home of the George Floyd killing...since 1961. Detroit since 1962. Shall I go on?

Leftist mayors, leftist city councils...all in exclusive control of those cities for numerous decades turning them to shitholes. Places like Baltimore where the public education system is so ****ed they cant find a single student in the school district that can pass both an English and math competency exam...........but its the republicans fault. Its the fault of the colonists.

rats just need more time................
Answer my question please. Is it your position that the R party is the champion of underserved communities?
 
Absolutely not. Kansas City, Omaha, would you call those liberal cities? They aren't. All over the country the middle class is dying. Mississippi had their homicide rate shoot up. Oakland was statistically safer in 2021 than Omaha. So you're just absolutely wrong there.

And you understand I'm talking specifically about non-violent criminals, right? They're impoverished and drug dealing is lucrative. Are you shocked people choose that life when they're born in an area where they have a 5% chance of becoming a high income earner (this is a statistic but it might be 10% and regarding the top 10% of income earners but that could be slightly wrong). It's not about black people vs. white people, though, it's about income inequality. This is the worst gap we've ever had. Progressives have been linking income inequality and abandoning the middle class with increased violence for decades. No surprise here. Healthcare, housing, and education.
Kansas City has had 1 republican administration since 1930 and none since 1991. I would exactly site it as a major city...but it still is a liberal shithole.

Believe it or not, we are talking about the same thing...we just see the genesis of the problem differently and at current rate, there is no end in site. The people in charge in those cities are not invested in progress. I would point to Chicago as a prime example. Democrats have run Chicago since the 30s...90 years. For the most part, most of the different districts actually do OK...expect the south and west districts. Why is it that minorities in most of the other districts tend to succeed at an approximately equal rate to others in those districts, but those two districts, after 90 years of democrat governing, are bloody warzones? We really only have two choices...either you believe that as majority minority communities they are incapable of better...or the government has done nothing but enable to devastation.

No...Im not shocked. And I've said many times here...the amount of investment I would put into impoverished commuinities in the country would make most liberals blush. But then...I'm not in charge of that department.
 
Answer my question please. Is it your position that the R party is the champion of underserved communities?
What is your position?

Are YOU now or ever before been a member of the Communist Party?
Speak clearly into the microphone, please.​
 
Answer my question please. Is it your position that the R party is the champion of underserved communities?
Of course not. Why would they invest ANY political capitol in communities where they have been lied to and told that republicans 'gon put them back in chains.....'

Black Americans vote as a bloc and have since the 30s. Until they heed the counsel of Malcolm X from 1964, no republican is going to waste much time going after their vote. In point of fact the man the idiot left demonized the absolute most has probably the BEST track record of supporting minority causes in our political history....but the leftists made sure to label him as a racist right out of the gate.
 
Kansas City has had 1 republican administration since 1930 and none since 1991. I would exactly site it as a major city...but it still is a liberal shithole.

Believe it or not, we are talking about the same thing...we just see the genesis of the problem differently and at current rate, there is no end in site. The people in charge in those cities are not invested in progress. I would point to Chicago as a prime example. Democrats have run Chicago since the 30s...90 years. For the most part, most of the different districts actually do OK...expect the south and west districts. Why is it that minorities in most of the other districts tend to succeed at an approximately equal rate to others in those districts, but those two districts, after 90 years of democrat governing, are bloody warzones? We really only have two choices...either you believe that as majority minority communities they are incapable of better...or the government has done nothing but enable to devastation.

No...Im not shocked. And I've said many times here...the amount of investment I would put into impoverished commuinities in the country would make most liberals blush. But then...I'm not in charge of that department.

You say I either have to blame democrats or blame minorities. Either welfare causes complacency or "majority minority" communities are to blame. First, there are just as many drug dealers per capita in rural Missouri, but they sell meth and get arrested once for every 10 black men selling marijuana. That's because their father knows the sheriff and they talk it out, which is sometimes a better way to go about it if you treat EVERYBODY that way and enforce the law in a fair, transparent way. We have never had universal healthcare. I said start with education, housing and healthcare to solve the problem. Student debt - Biden promised, wasn't addressed. State college should be basically free like it was for every other generation until mine. My brother spent a half million dollars going to law school and he was so burned out he needed a year off. That was it, his life was over. He's a teacher who is still is debt and should pay it all off around the time he's 80 if he's alive.

Healthcare, Obama didn't give us a public option, we were told the ACA would lead to death panels, the ACA is incredibly popular and what people want is a public option. Republicans overwhelmingly want universal healthcare (60%) but it doesn't happen. Housing was denied to minorities by the government until very recently. We had a president who was a primary cause of racial segregation for decades in New York. Red Lining was very real, can't be denied, and the income inequality is all about a huge range of issues that the government doesn't address because democrats don't have to and republicans refuse to.

And if I was wrong about Kansas City I remembered incorrectly. You can pick a city, but I looked up "most conservative cities," it said scottsdale, so I googled scottsdale homicide rate and here's the article i first saw:

 
You say I either have to blame democrats or blame minorities. Either welfare causes complacency or "majority minority" communities are to blame. First, there are just as many drug dealers per capita in rural Missouri, but they sell meth and get arrested once for every 10 black men selling marijuana. That's because their father knows the sheriff and they talk it out, which is sometimes a better way to go about it if you treat EVERYBODY that way and enforce the law in a fair, transparent way. We have never had universal healthcare. I said start with education, housing and healthcare to solve the problem. Student debt - Biden promised, wasn't addressed. State college should be basically free like it was for every other generation until mine. My brother spent a half million dollars going to law school and he was so burned out he needed a year off. That was it, his life was over. He's a teacher who is still is debt and should pay it all off around the time he's 80 if he's alive.

Healthcare, Obama didn't give us a public option, we were told the ACA would lead to death panels, the ACA is incredibly popular and what people want is a public option. Republicans overwhelmingly want universal healthcare (60%) but it doesn't happen. Housing was denied to minorities by the government until very recently. We had a president who was a primary cause of racial segregation for decades in New York. Red Lining was very real, can't be denied, and the income inequality is all about a huge range of issues that the government doesn't address because democrats don't have to and republicans refuse to.

And if I was wrong about Kansas City I remembered incorrectly. You can pick a city, but I looked up "most conservative cities," it said scottsdale, so I googled scottsdale homicide rate and here's the article i first saw:


It is more than a little crazy that up until the early 1990s, American students were able to pay for state universities working part-time. And not just mid-tier schools like CSU Long Beach, but top-tier campuses like U.C.L.A. and U.C. Berkeley.

And up until the 2005 Bankruptcy Code, if you were unable to pay your student loans, you could file for Chapter 13 Bankruptcy, pay all your disposable monthly income to all of your creditors including your student lenders, and the remaining balance would be discharged at the end of the five year period. After BAPCPA was passed (backed by Joe Biden, it must be added), that ability for student borrowers to eliminate their student debt ceased.

If Joe Biden deserves to be cursed by student borrowers, it should be for that. He was and is no friend to college students who had to borrow money to try to receive an education in order to make it into the middle class. But then, hardly anyone truly is. Biden simply represents the corporate donor-captured wing of the Democratic Party, while the Republican Party seems to have become the outright corporate donor-captured party.
 
You say I either have to blame democrats or blame minorities. Either welfare causes complacency or "majority minority" communities are to blame. First, there are just as many drug dealers per capita in rural Missouri, but they sell meth and get arrested once for every 10 black men selling marijuana. That's because their father knows the sheriff and they talk it out, which is sometimes a better way to go about it if you treat EVERYBODY that way and enforce the law in a fair, transparent way. We have never had universal healthcare. I said start with education, housing and healthcare to solve the problem. Student debt - Biden promised, wasn't addressed. State college should be basically free like it was for every other generation until mine. My brother spent a half million dollars going to law school and he was so burned out he needed a year off. That was it, his life was over. He's a teacher who is still is debt and should pay it all off around the time he's 80 if he's alive.

Healthcare, Obama didn't give us a public option, we were told the ACA would lead to death panels, the ACA is incredibly popular and what people want is a public option. Republicans overwhelmingly want universal healthcare (60%) but it doesn't happen. Housing was denied to minorities by the government until very recently. We had a president who was a primary cause of racial segregation for decades in New York. Red Lining was very real, can't be denied, and the income inequality is all about a huge range of issues that the government doesn't address because democrats don't have to and republicans refuse to.

And if I was wrong about Kansas City I remembered incorrectly. You can pick a city, but I looked up "most conservative cities," it said scottsdale, so I googled scottsdale homicide rate and here's the article i first saw:

Absolutely none of that has anything to do with the OP and the fact that the vast majority of murders in the US are committed by black Americans, against black Americans, in majority controlled US cities.
 
Absolutely none of that has anything to do with the OP and the fact that the vast majority of murders in the US are committed by black Americans, against black Americans, in majority controlled US cities.

I just addressed your comment, and then you found an excuse to disregard the fact that conservative cities are having their homicide rates explode. I think i've pointed this out the 5 posters talking about "democrat controlled cities" and universally I am ignored or people run away. Republican controlled cities have incredibly bad problems with healthcare, poverty, drug addiction, violence, and they lead the nation in teen pregnancy. Sorry if that's not what the OP was talking about but if you're going to make an untrue claim I will respond.
 
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