the iranians want to blow the USA up? never heard about that. got any sources?
So what you are saying is this just another instance of the US policy, do as I say, not as I do? Nothing hypocritical about that eh?
OK duly noted...
Well, there are profits to be sure just as there are threats. For example, "with the May 23 negotiations in Iraq failing to persuade Iran to give up its illicit nuclear program, Iranian leaders have returned to threats of war — including the provocative statement that their missiles can reach every U.S. military base in the Middle East, and a call to halt all nuclear negotiations with the West."
Iran leaders hint at missile attacks against US bases | The Daily Caller
Preparedness is the key, not waiting till people die.
If hypocrisy were the biggest concerns for international actors, you would have completely redesigned the face of politics itself.
I said "us", "Iranian leaders have returned to threats of war — including the provocative statement that their missiles can reach every U.S. military base in the Middle East, and a call to halt all nuclear negotiations with the West."
Iran leaders hint at missile attacks against US bases | The Daily Caller
now you want to dancethe virus was a very useful weapon against an entity that wants to blow us up.
If Iran had launched a similar virus against the US, we would consider it an act of war.
Let's face reality -- we've been been in a covert war with Iran since the Shah was deposed and they took over our embassy.
We supply more weapons to more people around the world.
We sell weapons to countries and exercise some control over who gets them and what they do with them. You aren't seriously comparing the selling of arms to soverign nations with selling weapons to terrorists and gangsters, are you?
Pales in comparison to what we did to civilians in Iraq, Vietnam, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
well, except for the part where they helped us take out saddam
when they are one in the same, certainly
How are they one in the same? Would you, for example, compare the selling of weapons to Canada or the UK or Australia with Iran providing weapons to Hezbollah?
Oh wait a minute, you probably would.
Never mind.
We sell weapons to countries and exercise some control over who gets them and what they do with them. You aren't seriously comparing the selling of arms to soverign nations with selling weapons to terrorists and gangsters, are you?
Oh come on! You're comparing what happens in a war with a barbaric legal system carried out in cold blood by religious fanatics.
And the Nagasaki and Hiroshima comparisons are especially vile. Those bombings, while horrific, saved hundreds of thousands of American lives and probably millions of Japanese. Of course, since you didn't face the likelihood of invading Japan, I can see why you would find the bombings so terrible. Read a book on the combat in Okinawa and the number of military and civilian deaths that ensued in an operation that would have been increased by 50 fold in an invasion of the Japanese mainland.
Of which you are so adept.Provocative statements from those that are not even close to the military might of the US don't frighten me. In the South we call that running your mouth with nothing to back it up.
That's the same ploy they used to sell the war against Iraq (one of the weakest countries on the planet at the time).
I'm sure you have heard the expression, sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never harm me.
That is why I was not afraid of a fat old man with a shotgun in Iraq. And it is why I do not fear Iran.
let's take another look at YOUR exact words:
now you want to dance
it is "us", not USA, you insist without sharing with us just who "us" is, since it now appears that you insist iran is refereing to others and not just the USA
and when you said "an entity" that wants to blow us up, i am assuming you mean iran. correct me if i have it wrong
and no where have you shown us the cite which proves the iranians want "to blow us up"
there is no need to embellish the truth in these discussions
I don't care about moral high ground. What I do care about is the Mad Mullahs possessing nuclear weapons and who they decide to share those weapons with. To hell with the moral high ground.
"It reads like a riveting sci-fi novel, but it's stunningly real: A super-sophisticated malicious computer virus burrowed its way into Iran's nuclear facilities and took down several parts of the operation. Oh, and it apparently came from us.
In 2010, it was the U.S. who launched Stuxnet, a seek-and-destroy cyber missile so sophisticated that some briefly thought it might have an other-than-earthly origin, against Iran's nuclear infrastructure, according to a New York Times report. The virus was, in fact, created jointly by the U.S. and Israel.
In his first months in office, President Obama covertly ordered sophisticated attacks on the computers that ran Iran's nuclear facilities, upping U.S. use of cyber weaponry in a sustained attack, the newspaper said.
Early on, a programming error allowed the worm to escape Iran's Natanz plant and whoosh around the world on the Internet.
"Should we shut this thing down?" Obama asked, members of his national security team who were in the room told the paper.
Ultimately, the super worm was left to wreak its havoc, and it took out 1,000 of 5,000 centrifuges Iran was using to enhance uranium, according to the report. It was as effective as a bomb or agents infiltrating country's nuclear facilities to plant explosives, the report said."
Massive cyber attack on Iran came from U.S., report says - latimes.com
Could this be considered an overt act of cyber... war....
What other implications....
well, except for the part where they helped us take out saddam
This War with Iran is not about nuclear weapons
We supplied weapons to Saddam who used them against Iran and his own people, and to Israel who bombed Iraq and the Palestinians, just to name a couple.
The fact is we have been responsible for far more deaths of innocent civilians than have the Iranians, regardless of how you wish to dress it up.
I have read up on it, and found that the Japanese were already prepared to surrender when we bombed the civilians of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. We are in fact the only country to ever use nuclear weapons on civilian populations.
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