So what you are saying is this just another instance of the US policy, do as I say, not as I do? Nothing hypocritical about that eh?
So has the US declared war on Iran?
If so, they should be finished off quickly.
Cat, kindly give the rhetoric a rest.
If you look in this thread I provided an instance, when in 1982," the United States discovered that Russia was stealing data on United States technology. So the CIA hatched a plot to insert a logic bomb into software that the agency knew the Russians were purchasing from a Canadian firm to operate pumps and valves on their natural gas pipeline. The equipment worked fine initially, but at a preprogrammed point, it caused valves in the pipeline to malfunction, creating a pressure buildup that exploded into a fireball so large it was captured by orbiting satellites."
There are times much like these where protection from enemies include the latest weaponry such as: the Atomic bomb in the 1940's and the use of drones in the recently. To turn a blind eye to that which would most benefit those who the government must protect is more than negligent or irresponsible; it is reckless and can only lead to disaster.
So what you are saying is this just another instance of the US policy, do as I say, not as I do? Nothing hypocritical about that eh?
The GOP is not in power at present, so no we haven't.
That's what the GOP said about Iraq, and Iran is much more powerful than was Iraq at the time of our invasion.
Its not rhetoric. I don't buy into your premise that Iran is a credible threat to the US. And I don't accept that it is morally correct to do to others what you would not have them do to you.
Its not rhetoric. I don't buy into your premise that Iran is a credible threat to the US. And I don't accept that it is morally correct to do to others what you would not have them do to you.
Thankfully you are not the decision maker here and not charged with the protection and security of the United States. The only reason you have the luxury to opine on what is a morally correct is there are those who actually make those hard decisions, get their hands dirty and in some cases give their lives to insure that people living in a democracy can have the freedom to opine on what is morally correct.
Yeah, thank god we were able to sacrifice tens of thousand of lives and a couple trillion dollars of taxpayer debt to get big oil back in Iraq again! That sure does make me feel safer!!!
If you are searching for "morals", "Iran is not the best place to look.
Stoning to Death in Iran: A Crime Against Humanity Carried Out By the Mullahs' Regime And do you have an idea of what they do to Gays?
Cat, we were discussing the OP~~~~~ Cyberwar....
I was replying to your last post.
Yeah, thank god we were able to sacrifice tens of thousand of lives and a couple trillion dollars of taxpayer debt to get big oil back in Iraq again! That sure does make me feel safer!!!
Pales in comparison to what we did to civilians in Iraq, Vietnam, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Yes by attempting to side track the issue by bringing in conventional warfare to somehow validate your point.
Do you understand that the topic is Iran? Seriously. Do you understand that much?
Yes, a lot of good people have died so you could feel safer.
No, in reply to your post about our past efforts in "protection and security of the United States."
Why did you bring it up if you didn't want to discuss it?
I am discussing it. You just do not have your usual soapbox of how terrible things are when we send in multitudes of troops etc.
This is the leading edge of warfare. What has occurred in this instance is delay a planned construction of a nuclear missiles through the introduction of a computer virus. This measure saved lives, gives all parties a chance to resolve their differences and possibly come up with a cohesive plan with out losing lives on the battlefield. What downside do you see here.
So its ok to say Iran does bad things, but not ok to say that we do worse?
Not at all, I am saying I reject the policy of do as I say, not as I do.
The downside I see here is that when we do something to others that we would not wish to have done to ourselves, we have no moral justification to claim foul when others do the same to us. Especially when our motives are for world hegemony rather than defense from actual physical threats.
Nevertheless, they do ...I have provided examples several times.
"Cry foul", is a diplomatic chip that is played to those who care. In the real world it is a race as to who can develop the latest, most sophisticated software that will cause the enemy a set back or best case scenario cause permanent harm to the development and use of weapons that would cause harm to the US.
OK duly noted...And I will continue to protest against it as long as I am able.
.You have a different definition of morality than I do. I can only justify harm to others in defense of actual attack. I can't justify it for hegemony. Corporate profit by the 1% is just not that important to me
the iranians want to blow the USA up? never heard about that. got any sources?Who cares about outrage, I want preparedness. The US has been under "attack" before, albeit, low tech in the form of espionage, sabotage, using aircraft as missiles flying into buildings etc. The virus was a very useful weapon against an entity that wants to blow us up.
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