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Masked People Are Spreading The Virus

more people close together means more cases. more people close together acting like maskless morons would mean even more cases. mask up, or stay home.
Home is where they are catching it and spreading it. .
 
This has proven to be impossible in America. Therefore, we are doing the best we can. Blue states are mandating masks and social distancing, red states are to a lesser extent, and we are doing a very poor job of mitigating the spread of the virus. But a very poor job is better than doing nothing.

Then by extension the current mandates are useless.
 
Then by extension the current mandates are useless.

No, they are ineffective at mitigating the spread, not useless. Your fists are ineffective weapons against a man armed with a sword. Your fists are not useless, however.
 
No, they are ineffective at mitigating the spread, not useless. Your fists are ineffective weapons against a man armed with a sword. Your fists are not useless, however.

There is no point to mandate ineffectual policy.
 
There is no point to mandate ineffectual policy.

This depends on the definition of "effective." Effective compared to what?

Masks work to reduce the likelihood of spread. The reduction may not be enough to reverse the increasing spread of the virus, but it's better than doing nothing. Without mask mandates, there would be more deaths.

When a policy is better than nothing, and more effective policies are not available, then it does make sense to mandate a less effective policy.
 
For probably the millionth time

Masks by themselves are not 100% going to stop the virus from spreading.

Masks are one part of all the various recommendations. The others include

Social distancing
Not touching your face
Frequently washing your hands using sanitizer when washing is not possible
Wiping down packages then washing hands.
Masks help but they are not a cure all
 
Home is where they are catching it and spreading it. .

that's part of it, too. don't hold family events until people are vaccinated. however, that's more difficult to control. we can definitely address the publicly militant maskless.
 
We may possibly be getting somewhere with this. Yes, I don't deny that if everyone didn't wear masks that the situation would be far worse. BUT, we're talking about things being far worse now, 8 months into a mask mandate where most people actually wear masks. It is masked people spreading the virus and they spread the virus because masks don't really work that well, they only work better than not having masks at all. But, the point is, the left encouraging people to wear masks actually encourages people to go out. While the left say, "It's better to stay home but if you must go out, wear a mask" is picked up and heard by people as, "go out and do whatever the hell you want, but wear a mask". This is evidenced by travel at Thanksgiving and Christmas. People were told the very same thing, "You should stay home but if you must travel, wear a mask, social distance, etc." But, people, including millions of lefties, heard this as, "It's OK to travel, just wear a mask and follow guidelines". And what happened? People traveled by the boatloads, wore masks, followed the guidelines, and we had surges. The virus is spreading because too many people are out and too many people are out because they falsely believe that masks are some sort of force field that stops the virus. Encouraging people to wear masks encourages them to go out when they shouldn't be going out. We should be encouraging them to stay home and don't go out and leave the part off about, "Well if you must go out, wear a mask" because this just encourages them to go out instead of hearing what you said at first, "Don't go out".
You know when you hackishly blame "the left" we tune out everything that follows as ramblings of an ideologue. There is no "the left" - these mythical people exist only in your imagination as some boogey man to blame for something.

The people on "the left" that I know have NEVER ended the recommendations at "wear a mask." It's social distance, avoid indoor gatherings of any kind, don't eat indoors, don't go to Trump super spreader events, don't fly, go to weddings, etc. So you're beating the crap out of your straw man.
 
Lol you actually think coronavirus is dangerous?
Still waiting for you to provide your sources that support your post in my signature. Or a few thou more.

Where are they?
 
California - over 90% compliance rate and we're closing in rapidly on 3 million infections. You guys should rethink the mask thing.
Is that 90% businesses/public places complying with the laws or individuals out in public/in those businesses? Source?

Cuz we know that people often dont comply with the laws or what businesses have posted. We see the videos all the time.
 
that's part of it, too. don't hold family events until people are vaccinated. however, that's more difficult to control. we can definitely address the publicly militant maskless.
All ten of them here in CA? Masks and mask mandates simply don't work. Look around the world. THe evidence could not be more clear. The only ones that have avoided this virus are the islands.
 
that's part of it, too. don't hold family events until people are vaccinated. however, that's more difficult to control. we can definitely address the publicly militant maskless.
Sure. Drive them from outdoor dining to holding indoor dining events with family friends and neighbors. Great fuking policy
 
that's part of it, too. don't hold family events until people are vaccinated. however, that's more difficult to control. we can definitely address the publicly militant maskless.
I reject your messed up priorities. I refuse to live at the cost of no social interaction. I would rather die of the virus and so with everyone in my social circles. Go move to an island and stop in posing your bull on us.
 
All ten of them here in CA? Masks and mask mandates simply don't work. Look around the world. THe evidence could not be more clear. The only ones that have avoided this virus are the islands.

fake news. mask up.
 
fake news. mask up.
Sweden - no mask mandate, everything open, 10M population - 10K dead
LA COunty - mask mandate since April, everything closed - 10M population - 13K dead.
 
Sweden - no mask mandate, everything open, 10M population - 10K dead
LA COunty - mask mandate since April, everything closed - 10M population - 13K dead.

I don't do bullshit CT and willful misrepresentations. Mask up, or stay home. The militantly maskless have dragged this out long enough.
 
I don't do bullshit CT and willful misrepresentations.
Seems you specialize in it and deny the science.
Mask up, or stay home. The militantly maskless have dragged this out long enough.

QED
 
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