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MARK CUBAN: I'd give Trump a C-minus for his first 100 days

Puigb said:
You elected a birther for president...

If you don't think that will haunt Trump and the GOP, I don't know what to tell you.
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i think its totally irrelevant now that Obama no longer has any relevance to the current government. And WTF cares what Cuban thinks-he was a hard core Hillary fluffer.
 
Puigb said:
Hey, it was the GOP who did everything in their power to stop Trump from winning the nomination, for the supposed reasons that he wasn't conservative enough.

And Trump wanted his sister on the supreme court. "Gorusch" was likely Pence's idea.
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you actually believe that crap you posted? was she on his list of judges he was considering? I thought he said she should not be on the court.
 
TurtleDude said:
i think its totally irrelevant now that Obama no longer has any relevance to the current government. And WTF cares what Cuban thinks-he was a hard core Hillary fluffer.
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Trump's team cares what Cuban thinks.
 
TurtleDude said:
you actually believe that crap you posted? was she on his list of judges he was considering? I thought he said she should not be on the court.
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Of course I believe it. I think Trump's newfound "conservatism" comes from people like Pence and Bannon whispering in his ear.
 
Puigb said:
Of course I believe it. I think Trump's newfound "conservatism" comes from people like Pence and Bannon whispering in his ear.
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I see trump as a convenient conservative and childish chickenhawk .
 
Puigb said:
Trump's team cares what Cuban thinks.
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trump certainly cares about what Cuban thinks, I doubt if his cabal cares at all;

they'll be launching their '100-day' blitz of the media this week while trying to keep the gov't open and pass 'something' besides executive orders .
 
NIMBY said:
I see trump as a convenient conservative and childish chickenhawk .
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Trump pretends to be anything when he's pandering to different people. He can pretend to be a conservative, liberal, anything, depending on who he's talking to.
 
NIMBY said:
trump certainly cares about what Cuban thinks, I doubt if his cabal cares at all;

they'll be launching their '100-day' blitz of the media this week while trying to keep the gov't open and pass 'something' besides executive orders .
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His team cares. They see Cuban as a potential threat to Trump, knowing that Cuban can run on a populist message similar to Trump. Plus, Cuban could potentially have cross over appeal, and thus take away some of those rust belt voters who voted for Trump.
 
SO...a big Mark Cuban fan, are you?

I dont know why things dont set in with you. I didnt miss out on anything. I didnt vote for the guy. Im a registered Libertarian. I voted for MaCafee in the priamry and Johnson was such a clown I wrote in Huntsman in the pres election. You have this inane need to **** yourself about the right and then roll around in it over the left.
 
Puigb said:
He could potentially destroy Trump under the right circumstances. There's a reason why Trump's team is worried about him.
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Trump has more to worry about than Mark Cuban.
 
Puigb said:
You elected a birther for president...

If you don't think that will haunt Trump and the GOP, I don't know what to tell you.
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The birther won. Which ought to tell you what you need to know about the Democrat choices.
 

The establishment GOP did everything possible to defeat Trump knowing that the alternative was Hillary.
The established GOP has more in common with the established Dems than they do with President Trump.
 

The defeat of repeal and replace in the House shows the Republican house members don't have a warm and fuzzy about Trump. This early in his presidency he has been challenged from within his party. That is if one considers Trump a Republican. A lot of life long Republicans still don't. Trump is that interloper. I can't imagine one's own party going against their own president so soon. It would be like Democratic House members voting against Obamacare back in 2009 sending it down to defeat.

There is no doubt the GOP establishment didn't want Trump. Even after Trump won the nomination, 20% of all Republicans didn't want him and were firm or very strongly didn't want him. My guess is that Trump's core supporters are around 30% of America as a whole. Usually a president's core support is somewhere between 40-45% unless he does something really bad. But equally important are those totally oppose to a president. We know almost all Democrats are and today roughly half of all independents. But independents will move up and down, so it is important to find out how many independents are strongly or very firm in opposition to Trump which won't change their minds or mood and how many are somewhat oppose or view Trump somewhat negatively which can change and move back and forth.

If I have the numbers right, those who are strongly against Trump, really dislike him is 40% give or take a point or two of the total electorate. Those folks in my mind will never change their opinion of Trump. That 40% includes 80% of Democrats which is probably too small and 40% of independents which may be a bit high. Obama's total dislikes or strongly opposed who wouldn't change their mind was around 30%. The key is Trump is at a negative 10 whereas Obama was at a positive 10.

I know numbers, they tend to get folks eyes glossed over. What I think this means is Trump will have a hard time getting to 50% approval and at times may fall below 40%. In politics timing is everything. The question is where will Trump's numbers be come November of next year and at the beginning of 2020?
 

No, not a fan of Cuban, as I don't know much about him. But I do find it VERY interesting how Trump's team seems to be worried about him.
 
jimbo said:
The birther won. Which ought to tell you what you need to know about the Democrat choices.
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Can't argue that. Only someone as bad as Hillary can lose to a clown like Trump. Then again, Trump managed to defeat like 16 other candidates in the GOP primaries, so what does that say about them?
 
jimbo said:
The establishment GOP did everything possible to defeat Trump knowing that the alternative was Hillary.
The established GOP has more in common with the established Dems than they do with President Trump.
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Hell, President Trump has more in common with the Democrats than what he does his own base. This whole conservative ruse he's been pulling is an act. Why he decided to go this route is anyone's guess.
 
Puigb said:
No, not a fan of Cuban, as I don't know much about him. But I do find it VERY interesting how Trump's team seems to be worried about him.
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So typical. You know...for all your bull**** about 'defending Trump', here you are ****ting yourself in defense of Cuban because I DO know some things about him and have a somewhat negative opinion of his armchair quarterback cowardice. You rush in with your kneejerk need to defend a guy you admit you know nothing about. How bizarre.
 
Puigb said:
Can't argue that. Only someone as bad as Hillary can lose to a clown like Trump. Then again, Trump managed to defeat like 16 other candidates in the GOP primaries, so what does that say about them?
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Can't argue that. The fact is that Trump defeated the best of what either party had to throw at him.

Scary? I know.
 
Puigb said:
Hell, President Trump has more in common with the Democrats than what he does his own base. This whole conservative ruse he's been pulling is an act. Why he decided to go this route is anyone's guess.
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It's not all ruse, and his voters did not fall for anything. They, and that includes me, knew what they were getting, and what he was defeating.

Why he took the path he did through the Republicans rather than the Democrats seems simple enough. Hillary was going to be the Democrat candidate. Ask Bernie.

It was her turn.
 
Puigb said:
Actually, I think Ivanka will run for president in the future. I firmly believe the Trump dynasty is the next Clinton/Bush Dynasty. Whether or not Donald fails, I HIGHLY doubt this is the end of the Trump's in politics. More like the beginning.
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Maybe, maybe not. You're certainly counting chicken eggs in that post. I'm not so sure Chelsea (Clinton) has a future now that the Clinton dynasty is over.
 
Puigb said:
You elected a birther for president...

If you don't think that will haunt Trump and the GOP, I don't know what to tell you.
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American voters voted Trump president. In fact, it was Democratic voters in three blue states that elected Trump president. It actually wasn't Republicans who elected him president. He couldn't have won with just red states.
 
Puigb said:
Trump pretends to be anything when he's pandering to different people. He can pretend to be a conservative, liberal, anything, depending on who he's talking to.
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No one panders better than Clinton and the Democratic party.
 
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