Mariupol fight on. Reports of mass surrender likely fake

[Nomad4Ever]

As per the ISW:

Russian claims of a mass Ukrainian surrender in Mariupol are likely false, but Russian forces forced Ukrainian troops to abandon the Ilyich metal plant in northern Mariupol on April 13, further constricting the two remaining pockets of Ukrainian defenders. Russian forces will likely capture Mariupol in the coming week.

Russian forces captured the Ilyich metal plant in northern Mariupol on April 13, though some elements of defending Ukrainian forces escaped to link up with Ukrainian forces in Azovstal despite Russian claims of a mass surrender. The Russian Ministry of Defense claimed that 1026 servicemen of Ukraine’s 36th Marine Brigade surrendered at the Ilyich metal plant (in northern Mariupol) on April 13 and Russian troops released a video of around 30 Ukrainian troops they claim were captured during an attempt to breakout from Ilyich to the north.[1] Several independent Ukrainian outlets and government officials contrarily reported that the 36th Marine Brigade broke out of llyich to link up with Ukrainian forces at the Azovstal plant.[2] The commanders of the 36th Brigade and the Azov Regiment (the primary Ukrainian defenders in Azovstal) additionally released a joint video on April 13.

Institute for the Study of War

Russian claims of a mass Ukrainian surrender in Mariupol are likely false, but Russian forces forced Ukrainian troops to abandon the Ilyich metal plant in northern Mariupol on April 13, further constricting the two remaining pockets of Ukrainian

www.understandingwar.org

From twitter yesterday:


It appears Russia fabricated the mass surrender event. Though the remaining marines have been pushed into a smaller pocket and the situation remains dire. It seems unlikely, but if Ukraine managed to get them more supplies it seems likely that these guys are going to fight until the run out of bullets or food.

 

[PoS]

As per the ISW:

Institute for the Study of War

Russian claims of a mass Ukrainian surrender in Mariupol are likely false, but Russian forces forced Ukrainian troops to abandon the Ilyich metal plant in northern Mariupol on April 13, further constricting the two remaining pockets of Ukrainian

www.understandingwar.org

From twitter yesterday:


It appears Russia fabricated the mass surrender event. Though the remaining marines have been pushed into a smaller pocket and the situation remains dire. It seems unlikely, but if Ukraine managed to get them more supplies it seems likely that these guys are going to fight until the run out of bullets or food.

Gopod news then.

I do hope that the Ukrainians are prioritizing to lift the encirclement, because if they dont, then the defenders are doomed regardless of how hard they fight.

 

[Rogue Valley]

It appears Russia fabricated the mass surrender event. Though the remaining marines have been pushed into a smaller pocket and the situation remains dire. It seems unlikely, but if Ukraine managed to get them more supplies it seems likely that these guys are going to fight until the run out of bullets or food.

Ukrainian soldiers in Mariupol have surrendered. (no food or ammunition / 90% wounded).

A remaining pocket is the destroyed Azovstahl Steel Plant. That looks like something straight out of Stalingrad.

Whatever is left of the Azov regiment (very little) will probably fight on till the end. The Russians will execute them anyway.

 

[Napoleon]

Ukrainian soldiers in Mariupol have surrendered. (no food or ammunition / 90% wounded).

A remaining pocket is the destroyed Azovstahl Steel Plant. That looks like something straight out of Stalingrad.

Whatever is left of the Azov regiment (very little) will probably fight on till the end. The Russians will execute them anyway.

Will you weep for the neo-Nazis?

 

[Rogue Valley]

Will you weep for the neo-Nazis?

Will you wept yet for the 15,000+ Russian dead?

 

[Roadvirus]

Russia lied?! I'm shocked! Shocked i say!

 

[Roadvirus]

Will you weep for the neo-Nazis?

Putzin no doubt approves of your propaganda spreading.

 

[Tigerace117]

Putzin no doubt approves of your propaganda spreading.

The Azov thugs are Neo Nazis bud. Their founder literally declared they were created “ was to lead the "white races of the world in a final crusade for their survival […] a crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen"

Azov Brigade - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Hamish Howl]

Will you weep for the neo-Nazis?

How many rubles?

SO many rubles.

 

[ChickenTendies]

As per the ISW:

Institute for the Study of War

Russian claims of a mass Ukrainian surrender in Mariupol are likely false, but Russian forces forced Ukrainian troops to abandon the Ilyich metal plant in northern Mariupol on April 13, further constricting the two remaining pockets of Ukrainian

www.understandingwar.org

From twitter yesterday:


It appears Russia fabricated the mass surrender event. Though the remaining marines have been pushed into a smaller pocket and the situation remains dire. It seems unlikely, but if Ukraine managed to get them more supplies it seems likely that these guys are going to fight until the run out of bullets or food.

The mass surrender wasn't fake. Both of those claims could just as well be true. Russia released a whole bunch of PR vids about their triumph and how the POWs were being treated "humanely". There have been several waves of surrender over the last week or so as the situation in the Ilych Plant and port became untenable. Azovstal is the only pocket left, with no more than 2,500 Azov and army regulars remaining there. Keep in mind the ISW gets its information from the Ukrainian General Staff, who have no reason at all to obscure mass surrenders for morale and propaganda purposes.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Your source - ISW - says the Kremlin lied about the situation in Mariupol. No surprise there.

You'll have to link to where ISW says it receives its information straight from the Ukraine General Staff.

ISW is funded by the USMIC - US military defense contractors. It's analyses tend to be on the hawkish side.