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Malthusian Catastrophe applied to GW

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Many say that Global Warming is due to the increase in human activity, but mainly because of the CO2 that is produced by us. Malthusian theory explains that the population fluctuates as agricultural output is changed. We see this in ancient times.

The Earth went through a cooling trend between 300 CE and 800 CE. When temperatures cool at a global level, there is less moisture in the air, and that in effect restricts water from traveling to the centers of land masses. In short, rain becomes very rare in the center of continents as the climate is cooling. This in turn affects the plants and animals, killing many of them who lived in the center without water. Nomadic tribes that live in the center are dependant on these plants and animals for their subsistence. Some of these nomadic people are the German Barbarians that befell Rome, and the Huns before them (who also invaded China as well), and also the Prophet Muhammad who united Arabia, all of whom lived in places that were affected by the cooling trend. Living in areas that had limited subsistence, they expanded to other areas and took over places that had more food to go around.

Malthusian thoery is confirmed by all this. Basically, when subsistence output does not meat the population output, people will die, and disease will follow. However, this cycle was broke with the coming of the agricultural revolution and the industrial revolution. These two revolutions facilitated the farming techniques as well as the machinery that was needed to increase the agricultural output so that the population output was met. In short, we can produce food like never before. And with this, it ends mass famine and disease.

However, i'm not saying that famine is eliminated altogether, or that it does not exist today. I'm saying it no longer happens at the scale as it did in ancient times, as well as medieval times.

So what does this have to do with GW? 300-800 CE was the cooling trend. However, 800-1200 CE was the warming trend. We see the temperature rise once more as popluations started to grow again. As the temperature rises, more water became available to the centers of the continent once more. Further increasing poplulation. But as popluation grows, the agricultural output needs to grow as well, but we dont see that till the end of the 18th century. Thus people begin to starve again, and we see another cooling trend. When temperatures cool, we see another invasion of the nomads, Genghis Khan, this is right after the warming trend in the 1300s. We also see the Black Death (aka the Plague) very soon afterwards.

This is what some people may call the "natural" cooling and warming cycle. But because of our technological advances, we no longer suffer from mass famine and disease. Human growth has been growing and growing ever since the agricultural revolution. That was the end of the "natural" cooling and warming cycle. The ever increasing human population will only add to the increasing temperature. That is the difference from GW and the "natural" cooling and warming cycles.


So.....those of you that claim that global warming is a "natural" cycle, what are your thoughts about this one?
 
I'm disappointed that no one provided any feedback to this topic :(

I originally thought this perspective was a pretty interesting one when I read about it. I still do think it is interesting, but given the lack of response, maybe it isn't as interesting as I had hoped? :doh

Or maybe perhaps it belongs in the History Forum instead? Maybe that would garner more feedback?
 
I'm disappointed that no one provided any feedback to this topic :(
Sorry...You weren't really talking to people like me so...

I originally thought this perspective was a pretty interesting one when I read about it. I still do think it is interesting, but given the lack of response, maybe it isn't as interesting as I had hoped? :doh
I think it's an interesting hypothesis, however, the advent of the power plant and obscene consumption of fossil fuels seems a much better explanation.

However, the earth does have a way of equalizing itself, and as we put up a bigger fight, maybe so will it. Who knows. I guess I don't really buy the doomsday stuff, however I don't rule it out.

Or maybe perhaps it belongs in the History Forum instead? Maybe that would garner more feedback?
:shrug:
 
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