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Making President Trump’s Bed: A Housekeeper Without Papers

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Making President Trump’s Bed: A Housekeeper Without Papers

During more than five years as a housekeeper at the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J., Victorina Morales has made Donald J. Trump’s bed, cleaned his toilet and dusted his crystal golf trophies. When he visited as president, she was directed to wear a pin in the shape of the American flag adorned with a Secret Service logo.

Because of the “outstanding” support she has provided during Mr. Trump’s visits, Ms. Morales in July was given a certificate from the White House Communications Agency inscribed with her name. Quite an achievement for an undocumented immigrant housekeeper. Ms. Morales’s journey from cultivating corn in rural Guatemala to fluffing pillows at an exclusive golf resort took her from the southwest border, where she said she crossed illegally in 1999, to the horse country of New Jersey, where she was hired at the Trump property in 2013 with documents she said were phony.


She said she was not the only worker at the club who was in the country illegally.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/us/trump-bedminster-golf-undocumented-workers.html

We often admonish our politicians for their hypocrisy, but have we have seen as big and as transparent a hypocrite as one Donald Trump? A man that won the presidency as a champion of reducing illegal immigration in this country is more than happy to make a personal profit on the backs of illegal immigrants. Does this make you sick?

OTH, his hypocrisy on this issue has been well documented.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/...legal-immigrant-workers-union-settlement.html
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-undocumented-immigrants-tower-demolish-724845

....so why do we think Donald Trump has any credibility on this issue? ...and, if he is a hypocrite on his flagship issue, what does that say about his integrity overall?
 
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We often admonish our politicians for their hypocrisy, but have we have seen as big and as transparent a hypocrite as one Donald Trump? A man that won the presidency as a champion of reducing illegal immigration in this country is more than happy to make a personal profit on the backs of illegal immigrants. Does this make you sick?

OTH, his hypocrisy on this issue has been well documented.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/...legal-immigrant-workers-union-settlement.html
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-undocumented-immigrants-tower-demolish-724845

....so why do we think Donald Trump has any credibility on this issue?

Words are your friend.
Read your source and you will learn that Morales used phony documents and chose to use them.
Now ask yourself this, how does it make Trump the bad guy when it was Morales who came to our country illegally and undetected by her choice to use phony documentation?

Are you one of those Trump haters who would blame Trump for just about everything if you could?
 
We often admonish our politicians for their hypocrisy, but have we have seen as big and as transparent a hypocrite as one Donald Trump? A man that won the presidency as a champion of reducing illegal immigration in this country is more than happy to make a personal profit on the backs of illegal immigrants. Does this make you sick?

OTH, his hypocrisy on this issue has been well documented.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/...legal-immigrant-workers-union-settlement.html
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-undocumented-immigrants-tower-demolish-724845

....so why do we think Donald Trump has any credibility on this issue?


So, after 5 years of working for one of the Trump businesses as an illegal with forged papers, she now ...

"... Morales told The Times she is applying for asylum and is exploring a lawsuit claiming workplace abuse and discrimination. ..."


Sing with me: Only in America ...
 
So, after 5 years of working for one of the Trump businesses as an illegal with forged papers, she now ...

"... Morales told The Times she is applying for asylum and is exploring a lawsuit claiming workplace abuse and discrimination. ..."


Sing with me: Only in America ...

She's a piece of work.
 
Most White people are lazy....Won't do this type of work.....trump's business had little choice....They can't be blamed for the hiring...Still seems hypocritical
 
We often admonish our politicians for their hypocrisy, but have we have seen as big and as transparent a hypocrite as one Donald Trump? A man that won the presidency as a champion of reducing illegal immigration in this country is more than happy to make a personal profit on the backs of illegal immigrants. Does this make you sick?

OTH, his hypocrisy on this issue has been well documented.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/...legal-immigrant-workers-union-settlement.html
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-undocumented-immigrants-tower-demolish-724845

....so why do we think Donald Trump has any credibility on this issue? ...and, if he is a hypocrite on his flagship issue, what does that say about his integrity overall?

Deport her, now.
 
So, after 5 years of working for one of the Trump businesses as an illegal with forged papers, she now ...

"... Morales told The Times she is applying for asylum and is exploring a lawsuit claiming workplace abuse and discrimination. ..."


Sing with me: Only in America ...

Not sure I know that song.

She's illegal in her documentation. OK.

So does that mean that she cannot face workplace abuse and discrimination?
 
Deport?...Then who will do the work?...They'll just have hire another illegal...No lazy whites will step forward....

Take your racist flame bait elsewhere.
 
Making 45's bed and cleaning his toilet is just another example of a job most Americans don't want to do.
 
Hardly...Just facts....Again White people will not do this work.......Who will?...You?

Many WHITE people working right beside me would be willing. Have you looked around? People are willing to work.
 
Many WHITE people working right beside me would be willing. Have you looked around? People are willing to work.

Yeah...Sure....Then why weren't they hired?.......Face it...You trump lovers hate illegals but have NO idea how these workers will be replaced...Your angry bigotry clouds your vision
 
Yeah...Sure....Then why weren't they hired?.......Face it...You trump lovers hate illegals but have NO idea how these workers will be replaced...Your angry bigotry clouds your vision

Yeah, cool stuff dude.
 
We often admonish our politicians for their hypocrisy, but have we have seen as big and as transparent a hypocrite as one Donald Trump? A man that won the presidency as a champion of reducing illegal immigration in this country is more than happy to make a personal profit on the backs of illegal immigrants. Does this make you sick?

OTH, his hypocrisy on this issue has been well documented.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/...legal-immigrant-workers-union-settlement.html
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-undocumented-immigrants-tower-demolish-724845

....so why do we think Donald Trump has any credibility on this issue? ...and, if he is a hypocrite on his flagship issue, what does that say about his integrity overall?

From the NYT's link;

"There is no evidence that Mr. Trump or Trump Organization executives knew of their immigration status."
 
From the NYT's link;

"There is no evidence that Mr. Trump or Trump Organization executives knew of their immigration status."

Sure they didn't...That's the excuse all corporations use while they continue to hire Millions of undocumented workers.....To keep their profit margins high
 
Making 45's bed and cleaning his toilet is just another example of a job most Americans don't want to do.

How much does it pay? Some of my coworkers apply for jobs paying $12. They are willing to move.
 
How much does it pay? Some of my coworkers apply for jobs paying $12. They are willing to move.

Well that will fill 2 jobs....Right now there about 8 million more filled with undocumented workers.....You know 8 million more white people ready to work hard for low wages?...To keep those Corporations profits high?
 
Sure they didn't...That's the excuse all corporations use while they continue to hire Millions of undocumented workers.....To keep their profit margins high

I'll stick the known evidence, you
can stick with whatever you stick with.
 
At least now many Democrats admit they want open borders and for the same reasons the Democratic Party demanded continuation of slavery and then share cropping: who will pick our crops and clean white people's toilets cheap - literally advocating for a racially based second class people at lower wages than white people. The Democratic Party has never really changed in it's core opinion about foreign people of color. Same logic, difference race.
 
Making 45's bed and cleaning his toilet is just another example of a job most Americans don't want to do.
We already knew that there are jobs Americans just won't do. That's why Trump got Melania.
 
At least now many Democrats admit they want open borders and for the same reasons the Democratic Party demanded continuation of slavery and then share cropping: who will pick our crops and clean white people's toilets cheap - literally advocating for a racially based second class people at lower wages than white people. The Democratic Party has never really changed in it's core opinion about foreign people of color. Same logic, difference race.

Say what?......You going to bring up Robert Byrd now?...Babbling non sense.....
 
Thanks for admitting defeat...Now go Praise trump about his "wall"....LOL

Still scraping the bottom of that morality barrel I see. Good that nothing really changes about you Saladin.
 
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