• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!
  • Welcome to our archives. No new posts are allowed here.

Make-A-President.

Which traits make your ideal President?

  • Smart.

    Votes: 8 88.9%
  • Well Spoken.

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • Savvy Politician

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • Good looking.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Truthfull. (This is painfully funny)

    Votes: 6 66.7%
  • Small Government advocate

    Votes: 4 44.4%
  • Conservative (Real, not those who just have a "R")

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • Liberal (Real, not those who just have a "D")

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • Moderate (This covers a lot of ground, feel free to explain)

    Votes: 5 55.6%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 22.2%

  • Total voters
    9

The Mark

Sporadic insanity normal.
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Monthly Donator
Joined
Sep 9, 2005
Messages
38,521
Reaction score
15,294
Location
Pennsylvania
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Progressive
The object of this poll is for you to choose various options to construct your ideal president.

There will probably be many traits that I do not include, due in part to the limitation to 10 options, and in part to the limited time I have to spend thinking them up.

Please feel free to chose the "Other" option and describe the trait or traits that you wish.
 
1 A president that focus on his countries issues
2 A president who dont lie to or manipulate his own people
3 A president whom is elected by clear majority, where there is no doubt the elections wasnt a fraud.
4 A president who do great things for his country
5 A president who keep his religion to himself and dont use blasphemy in politics
6 A president who can admit his mistakes
7 A president that do not make mistakes
8 A president who is popular in both "circles" or among both republicans and democrates
9 A president who improve the economy
10 A president who is not unpopular across the globe, and promote America instead of degrade it.
 
1 A president that focuses mostly on the domestic issues
2 A president who keeps his religion to himself for the most part
3 A president who can work with people from both parties, but doesn't waver on important issues
4 A president who appoints a powerful and intelligent cabinet and executive staff.
5 A president who knows how to manage the press
6 A president who recognizes that the vast majority of the world, especially Europe, will always complain whenever America does anything that might shake up the Old Order
7 A president who will not let our needs be hampered in the name of "global unity" or "international consensus"
8 A president who will force the rest of the first world to do their fair share
9 A president who will refuse to change policy based on opposition rhetoric
10 A president who understands that the more government tries to do, the more opportunity it has for failure
 
1 A president that focus on his countries issues
I agree.

2 A president who doesn't lie to or manipulate his own people
That eliminates most politicians from the running.

3 A president whom is elected by clear majority, so there is no doubt the elections were not a fraud.
That would indeed be a good thing, but is not a requirement in my mind.

4 A president who do great things for his country
All depending on if congress allows him/her to do so.

5 A president who keep his religion to himself and dont use blasphemy in politics
Hmm, I am not so sure I completely agree with this. Keeping his/her religion to him/herself would be somewhat deceptive. I would much rather a president openly show his/her religion, but not let it enter into the governing part of things.

6 A president who can admit his mistakes
Absolutely.

7 A president that do not make mistakes
An impossible requirement. No human being can be such. We can extrapolate from previous statements that you would not want god as president.

8 A president who is popular in both "circles" or among both Republicans and Democrats
Agreed. But not, of course, among the fringe groups of both parties. And preferably able to draw in a large percentage of those who make up the center of the political spread.

9 A president who improves the economy
Always a good thing.

10 A president who is not unpopular across the globe, and promote America instead of degrade it.
Indeed, these last few presidents have not been doing a very good job at making America popular around the world.

One must ask, however, how much of this is our fault and how much is the fault of those who we are unpopular with? Usually such a situation is caused by a combination of both sides views and actions conflicting.
 
1 A president that focuses mostly on the domestic issues
2 A president who keeps his religion to himself for the most part
3 A president who can work with people from both parties, but doesn't waver on important issues
4 A president who appoints a powerful and intelligent cabinet and executive staff.
5 A president who knows how to manage the press
6 A president who recognizes that the vast majority of the world, especially Europe, will always complain whenever America does anything that might shake up the Old Order
7 A president who will not let our needs be hampered in the name of "global unity" or "international consensus"
8 A president who will force the rest of the first world to do their fair share
9 A president who will refuse to change policy based on opposition rhetoric
10 A president who understands that the more government tries to do, the more opportunity it has for failure

Interesting. I agree with all of these.
 
That would indeed be a good thing, but is not a requirement in my mind.

Maybe I should have clarified, I mean, elected by fair and free elections, with no doubt that there was no manipulations of the result like Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004. A clear majority(60%+) wouldnt hurt either.

All depending on if congress allows him/her to do so.
To a certain degree, a good president will have the ability to get the congress behind him on most cases. The Bush government was able to trick the congress to follow their politics even using lies like the claim of WMDs for the case of Iraq, and the link to africa and Uranium in the state of the union speech.

Hmm, I am not so sure I completely agree with this. Keeping his/her religion to him/herself would be somewhat deceptive. I would much rather a president openly show his/her religion, but not let it enter into the governing part of things.

To a European this would be one of the most important thing about a politician, many Europeans are as religious as Americans, but they realize that a politician is a politician, and that a priest is a priest. There should be no mixup in this. In my book it is vitally important that religion is not USED in politics.
I dont mind however if a politicians states that he is christian, there is no problem with that as long as he dont do more than that.

An impossible requirement. No human being can be such. We can extrapolate from previous statements that you would not want god as president.
I dont really mean that literally, but more in the context of being able to admit mistakes. No person or politician is perfect, but not many politicians make big blunders like Bush and Tony Blair of England has done in my and many peoples opinion.

Agreed. But not, of course, among the fringe groups of both parties. And preferably able to draw in a large percentage of those who make up the center of the political spread.

A president who have no appeal to the "other side" before he is elected will probably not be a good president, the more important is that a president who dont appeal to the "other side" when he is in office will NEVER be a good president.

Indeed, these last few presidents have not been doing a very good job at making America popular around the world.

One must ask, however, how much of this is our fault and how much is the fault of those who we are unpopular with? Usually such a situation is caused by a combination of both sides views and actions conflicting.

Clinton was a popular man in Europe, and as far as I know Asia. Bush senior was not unpopular in Europe and Asia, Reagan was not exactly popular but he didnt really make America the most hated country in the world ahead of terrorist nations.
 
1. A president who will Read the text of every bill he veto's or signs cover to cover.
2. A president who will veto every single piece of pork he sees, no matter what bill the pork is attached to.
3. A president who tells everyone who gave him campaign funds to go screw themselves and run the country in the interests of the American people.
4. A president who tells congress and the defense industry that he will not let them steal our money and get our soldiers killed, and uses his veto to back up his words.
5. A president who doesn't let his religion or lack thereof influence is duty as president.
6. A President who doesn't pardon everyone just before he leaves office.
7. A President who does what is right for our country, regardless of the political or popular cost.
8. A president who puts the constitution first, and everything else second.
9. A president who can inspire the public as a leader.
10. A president who gets as much facts and information as possible before objectively making choices.
 
1. A president who will Read the text of every bill he veto's or signs cover to cover.
2. A president who will veto every single piece of pork he sees, no matter what bill the pork is attached to.
3. A president who tells everyone who gave him campaign funds to go screw themselves and run the country in the interests of the American people.
4. A president who tells congress and the defense industry that he will not let them steal our money and get our soldiers killed, and uses his veto to back up his words.
5. A president who doesn't let his religion or lack thereof influence is duty as president.
6. A President who doesn't pardon everyone just before he leaves office.
7. A President who does what is right for our country, regardless of the political or popular cost.
8. A president who puts the constitution first, and everything else second.
9. A president who can inspire the public as a leader.
10. A president who gets as much facts and information as possible before objectively making choices.


This president does not exist...........
 
This president does not exist...........

Of course not. The entire premise was an IDEAL president.
 
Back
Top Bottom