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How?We have both in AZ yet the conservatives are still trying to make it harder to vote.
How?We have both in AZ yet the conservatives are still trying to make it harder to vote.
I would agree with both proposals, but also say that voting centers should be staffed 24/7 for at least a couple of weeks before an election to allow people with tough schedules their chance to vote as well.
Well, break the system and all.Hmm… “24/7 for at least a couple of weeks” is a very tough schedule.
I suspect there could be 4 shifts to easily accommodate this.Hmm… “24/7 for at least a couple of weeks” is a very tough schedule.
Mail-in systems are safe and secure and ensure one person, one vote.
I get my arthritis medicine mailed to me every three monthsIf by mail systems are safe and secure than let’s allow them for gun and prescription drug sales.
I suspect there could be 4 shifts to easily accommodate this.
4 shifts are common in 24/7 operations. Its usually a 12hr 3/4 A/P schedule. I have dealt with it myself since I have worked for manufacturing companies my entire adult life (admittedly, I was only in production for a year before being promoted though). So I have no reason to doubt it.Perhaps that idea had crossed (other) employers’ minds as well. Do you doubt that?
4 shifts are common in 24/7 operations. Its usually a 12hr 3/4 A/P schedule. I have dealt with it myself since I have worked for manufacturing companies my entire adult life (admittedly, I was only in production for a year before being promoted though). So I have no reason to doubt it.
That had nothing to do with my original argument, but sure.OK, so you know that shift workers have ample opportunity to vote.
Mail-in systems are safe and secure and ensure one person, one vote.
True. Colorado has a great mail-in system that is tried, tested, and secure. The only reason someone would oppose mail-in systems is because they want to discourage turnout and are looking to rig votes.False.
why should it not be allowed? It works for Colorado...every registered voter gets a ballot and they mail it back...they have no fraud issues...there is no reason that it should not be done this way.I do not agree that Federal intervention is needed to "cure" our voting systems ills particularly since those rules would be formulated by one party or the other
I agree that there is need for a change in the rules that allow unsecure ballots to float around out there and systems that do not require voter ID. Things need to change fer sure. Early voting should not be allowed more than a week before election day and there should be no mass mailing of ballots ala "resident" mail used in advertising. Unrequested mass mailings to registered voters should not be allowed.
Liberals contend that any citizen who doesn't vote is a problem that must be solved by removing any and all restrictions regardless of the fact that doing so encourages fraudulent voting. I contend that creating systems that allow that to happen are an insult to voters and citizens whose votes are negated by allowing them. Simply stating that there isn't enough fraud to sway an election is an old tired broken record that does little to salve the wounds to those honest voters who are disenfranchised by illegal votes.
Reading is fundamental...How?
Voter ID is absolutely fine when it's not part of a broader effort to restrict voting. When voting is easy in all other ways, then voter ID is fine.New poll has huge numbers agreeing that early voting should be easier and ID should be shown when voting.
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So you want to disenfranchise certain sections of the population, make it too tedious and long to vote, in order for your vote to count more? Wow.I do not agree that Federal intervention is needed to "cure" our voting systems ills particularly since those rules would be formulated by one party or the other
I agree that there is need for a change in the rules that allow unsecure ballots to float around out there and systems that do not require voter ID. Things need to change fer sure. Early voting should not be allowed more than a week before election day and there should be no mass mailing of ballots ala "resident" mail used in advertising. Unrequested mass mailings to registered voters should not be allowed.
Liberals contend that any citizen who doesn't vote is a problem that must be solved by removing any and all restrictions regardless of the fact that doing so encourages fraudulent voting. I contend that creating systems that allow that to happen are an insult to voters and citizens whose votes are negated by allowing them. Simply stating that there isn't enough fraud to sway an election is an old tired broken record that does little to salve the wounds to those honest voters who are disenfranchised by illegal votes.
The barcode is for identifying the candidate selected by the oval filled in, not the voter voting.You said this:
What is an ID number going to do? You're now talking about creating a parallel database of voters for no reason.
I agree. Colorado has Voter ID laws, but it's just not an issue here because of how our system is set up. We have among the highest voter turnout consistently, election to election. We make sure people who vote should be voting, are legally voting, but we also have a mail-in system with lots of secure drop boxes that makes voting simple, convenient, safe, and secure.Voter ID is absolutely fine when it's not part of a broader effort to restrict voting. When voting is easy in all other ways, then voter ID is fine.
There are less than 35 instances of voter fraud a year.I do not agree that Federal intervention is needed to "cure" our voting systems ills particularly since those rules would be formulated by one party or the other
I agree that there is need for a change in the rules that allow unsecure ballots to float around out there and systems that do not require voter ID. Things need to change fer sure. Early voting should not be allowed more than a week before election day and there should be no mass mailing of ballots ala "resident" mail used in advertising. Unrequested mass mailings to registered voters should not be allowed.
Liberals contend that any citizen who doesn't vote is a problem that must be solved by removing any and all restrictions regardless of the fact that doing so encourages fraudulent voting. I contend that creating systems that allow that to happen are an insult to voters and citizens whose votes are negated by allowing them. Simply stating that there isn't enough fraud to sway an election is an old tired broken record that does little to salve the wounds to those honest voters who are disenfranchised by illegal votes.
When you realize that the "illegal votes" this poster is referring to are any votes not for Republicans, the above post snaps into focus.I do not agree that Federal intervention is needed to "cure" our voting systems ills particularly since those rules would be formulated by one party or the other
I agree that there is need for a change in the rules that allow unsecure ballots to float around out there and systems that do not require voter ID. Things need to change fer sure. Early voting should not be allowed more than a week before election day and there should be no mass mailing of ballots ala "resident" mail used in advertising. Unrequested mass mailings to registered voters should not be allowed.
Liberals contend that any citizen who doesn't vote is a problem that must be solved by removing any and all restrictions regardless of the fact that doing so encourages fraudulent voting. I contend that creating systems that allow that to happen are an insult to voters and citizens whose votes are negated by allowing them. Simply stating that there isn't enough fraud to sway an election is an old tired broken record that does little to salve the wounds to those honest voters who are disenfranchised by illegal votes.
Yep, the voter id argument is made in bad faith.I agree. Colorado has Voter ID laws, but it's just not an issue here because of how our system is set up. We have among the highest voter turnout consistently, election to election. We make sure people who vote should be voting, are legally voting, but we also have a mail-in system with lots of secure drop boxes that makes voting simple, convenient, safe, and secure.
I do not understand why in 2021 we're having this conversation, the system is already solved. Though I do suppose the GOP doesn't want everyone voting, and there are people that don't want everyone voting, so they aim to make the process as tedious and time consuming as possible. But what a horrible way to treat our Republic.
God, I love this comment and can't wait to read on and see if and what responses it got! These are perfect comparisons!If by mail systems are safe and secure than let’s allow them for gun and prescription drug sales.
They're not perfect comparisons, it's a daft attempt at deflection. No reasonable individual is going to think that is a great argument.God, I love this comment and can't wait to read on and see if and what responses it got! These are perfect comparisons!
I think this is very well said and I sure agree.Liberals contend that any citizen who doesn't vote is a problem that must be solved by removing any and all restrictions regardless of the fact that doing so encourages fraudulent voting. I contend that creating systems that allow that to happen are an insult to voters and citizens whose votes are negated by allowing them. Simply stating that there isn't enough fraud to sway an election is an old tired broken record that does little to salve the wounds to those honest voters who are disenfranchised by illegal votes.