• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Lunatics of the New Labour state

Andalublue

Hello again!
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 2, 2010
Messages
27,100
Reaction score
12,356
Location
Granada, España
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
For a person talking about 'refuting Thatcher's skid marks' and talking about bulls* *t, you have one hell of a cheek to talk about insults. I've had more than enough attempts at invalidation and ad hominem personal attacks from Leftists to care too much about their feelings when some of us lock horns.

I do often see both sides of the story but there are times when my strong sense of right and wrong comes into play or when nothing else is needed but to put down my head and charge. I'm quite balanced with other people.

And I did mention Diego Garcia in the other post, as you may have noticed if you weren't too busy holding your nose in the air. I mentioned it at the same time as I mentioned the tower blocks. Go back and read what I actually write before coming back and lecturing me on what a flawed being I am. You must be hell to live with.

I mentioned Diego Garcia because there's a big difference between saying, "well it was a Labour government that did that!" and refuting the argument that Britain is happy to displace residents of a territory when it sees fit. What is the difference in status between the Diego Garcians and the Falklanders? To my mind there is none. The DG population should not have been forcibly evicted from their homes... and neither should the Falklanders. Voluntary repatriation is a different matter, I thought you'd quite like that concept.

Quote back at me a personal attack I have made on you and I'll apologise publicly, right here. Then you can apologise for your last statement.
 

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
The BNP like the policy of voluntary repatriation as well. Looks like you're a bit of a nationalist yourself, well done. (Indeed, what would you do with the Falklanders who won't go 'home'?)

As I said before, displacing people who have lived somewhere for generations is wrong. Once again you fail to read all my words before leaping in with high-handed criticism.

And for someone who invites such derision (look who's talking), I seem to ask certain questions which won't go answered, for example what the figure is of our supposed net profit of being in the EU.
 
Last edited:

Andalublue

Hello again!
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 2, 2010
Messages
27,100
Reaction score
12,356
Location
Granada, España
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
The BNP like the policy of voluntary repatriation as well. Looks like you're a bit of a nationalist yourself, well done. (Indeed, what would you do with the Falklanders who won't go 'home'?)

As I said before, displacing people who have lived somewhere for generations is wrong. Once again you fail to read all my words before leaping in with high-handed criticism.

And for someone who invites such derision (look who's talking), I seem to ask certain questions which won't go answered, for example what the figure is of our supposed net profit of being in the EU.

Sorry, when did you ask about the EU net profit? I seem to recall on another thread some time ago referring you to the value of British access to the largest market in the World and the millions saved by British citizens not having to pay import duty on EU-imported goods. These two things alone outweigh our net contribution to EU funds by a factor of 100 times.

You seem to enjoy having a go at me by attacking Labour policies, as if I'm some kind of Labour Party supporter. I'm not. I'm British, live in Spain and vote IU (Izquierda Unida - the Spanish coalition of Communists and Greens).

Now

If Britain were to cede sovereignty to Argentina I think that most Falklanders would choose voluntary repatriation. As for your assertion that there are "generations" of Falkland islanders, where is your proof? How many of those Falklanders have been there for more than 2 generations?

Let's lay off the insults too..."Looks like you're a bit of a nationalist yourself, well done."...I've already offered an apology if you can show me that I've insulted you. You do the same and let's carry one with the debate.
 

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
I've asked a couple of times on the EU and Democracy forum I think. I don't think it was you (and I have this habit of thinking of the Left as one homogenous mass), but someone was talking about how I always plump for the figures the Telegraph and Daniel Hannan publish about the EU. My line for that is at least I found some figures to use to assert my position.

The Labour Party is the biggest party of the Left in Britain, with even the Communist Party openly advocating people vote for it as late as 1997. If any Leftists are going to have a hand of anything in power it's mostly people from Labour.

I'm very hot on things like sovereignty, so when suggestions are made that it be ceded to foreign countries the patriot in me comes bounding out. And I don't think that's a bad thing to puff about quite honestly.

I'm sure the Falklanders would want to move if the territories were given to Argentina. But the islands and people are British citizens solidly and so it would be a craven betrayal to cede sovereignty to Argentina. If the population were mixed then I would understand Argentina's attitude a little more.

If I mentioned 'ancestral' then I'm sure I should have said 'generational'. The longest-living Falkland families come closest to having an ancestral heritage as previous settlements have come and gone quite rapidly there.

And I don't mind laying off the insults either (though the nationalist comment was only supposed to be more of a tickle). I've wanted little else myself, but when I've seen other posters coming on strong with me then I do tend to get a bit bullish. I'm sorry if you feel any genuine hurt beyond the rough and tumble of debate and in fact I prefer it when things are nicely chewed over and quarter is given.
 
Last edited:

Andalublue

Hello again!
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 2, 2010
Messages
27,100
Reaction score
12,356
Location
Granada, España
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
I've asked a couple of times on the EU and Democracy forum I think. I don't think it was you (and I have this habit of thinking of the Left as one homogenous mass), but someone was talking about how I always plump for the figures the Telegraph and Daniel Hannan publish about the EU. My line for that is at least I found some figures to use to assert my position.

The Labour Party is the biggest party of the Left in Britain, with even the Communist Party openly advocating people vote for it as late as 1997. If any Leftists are going to have a hand of anything in power it's mostly people from Labour.

I'm very hot on things like sovereignty, so when suggestions are made that it be ceded to foreign countries the patriot in me comes bounding out. And I don't think that's a bad thing to puff about quite honestly.

I'm sure the Falklanders would want to move if the territories were given to Argentina. But the islands and people are British citizens solidly and so it would be a craven betrayal to cede sovereignty to Argentina. If the population were mixed then I would understand Argentina's attitude a little more.

If I mentioned 'ancestral' then I'm sure I should have said 'generational'. The longest-living Falkland families come closest to having an ancestral heritage as previous settlements have come and gone quite rapidly there.

And I don't mind laying off the insults either (though the nationalist comment was only supposed to be more of a tickle). I've wanted little else myself, but when I've seen other posters coming on strong with me then I do tend to get a bit bullish. I'm sorry if you feel any genuine hurt beyond the rough and tumble of debate and in fact I prefer it when things are nicely chewed over and quarter is given.

Guy, insults on an internet forum don't hurt me, they just distract from the argument. I hate to disabuse you of the idea, but the Labour Party hasn't been a socialist party for about 20 years and not even of the left for about 10 years.

Scrapping 10p tax rate? Home Secretary calling asylum seekers "scum"? engaging in wars of imperialist aggression? presiding over the widening of the gap between the rich and the poor? charging for university tuition fees and saddling graduates with unrepayable debts? The list goes on. These aren't the actions of a socialist party, they're not even the actions of a liberal party. Didn't you notice how silent Thatcher was during Blair's Prime Ministership? Even when she was compus mentis enough to be allowed on air? Brown's capitulation to the money markets and wholesale deregulation of the City is what made the current crisis more sever for the UK than most of our social democratic-minded EU neighbours. These are all acts of a party deeply, deeply anti-socialist.

The trouble with UK politics these days is that there is no left-wing party for anyone to vote for.
 

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
Labour may have ditched many socialist economic principles, an action which helped the party get elected after 18 years in the wilderness, but political correctness became its barbed replacement.

In many ways Labour are still as far Left as the day is long. When Castro retired, many Labour MPs signed an early day motion praising him for his longevity in office. Harriet Harman also called him a 'hero of the Left' in a contemporary interview.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iAyVsKQf-0"]YouTube- New Labour's Communist Heritage and Pride[/ame]

I'm not aware of any Labour Home Secretary describing asylum seekers as scum (or the context), but I wouldn't think that was much beyond paying lip service to a public who are becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the recent breakneck changes in the demographics. Indeed, Alan Johnson has now claimed the Tories are muddled on immigration and would be unable to prevent the population rising beyond 70 million. I'm not sure he realises his own cheek.

As for the gap between rich and poor, I believe the argument is misleading. Though many claim the gap has widened, it can also be said that the poorer are also generally much better off these days, even under Labour. The old cliche of satellite dishes on every rundown council house does have a tendency to ring true.

I'm no friend of New Labour, either economically or socially. I too believe that it has sold out too much to the international market and has treacherously disavowed the concept of protectionism, much to the nation's detriment. And any party made up of people who claim the old patriotic workers' slogan of 'British Jobs For British Workers' is deeply racist can't be good news.
 
Last edited:

Andalublue

Hello again!
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 2, 2010
Messages
27,100
Reaction score
12,356
Location
Granada, España
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
Labour may have ditched many socialist economic principles, an action which helped the party get elected after 18 years in the wilderness, but political correctness became its barbed replacement.

In many ways Labour are still as far Left as the day is long. When Castro retired, many Labour MPs signed an early day motion praising him for his longevity in office. Harriet Harman also called him a 'hero of the Left' in a contemporary interview.

I'm not aware of any Labour Home Secretary describing asylum seekers as scum (or the context), but I wouldn't think that was much beyond paying lip service to a public who are becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the recent breakneck changes in the demographics. Indeed, Alan Johnson has now claimed the Tories are muddled on immigration and would be unable to prevent the population rising beyond 70 million. I'm not sure he realises his own cheek.

As for the gap between rich and poor, I believe the argument is misleading. Though many claim the gap has widened, it can also be said that the poorer are also generally much better off these days, even under Labour. The old cliche of satellite dishes on every rundown council house does have a tendency to ring true.

I'm no friend of New Labour, either economically or socially. I too believe that it has sold out too much to the international market and has treacherously disavowed the concept of protectionism, much to the nation's detriment. And any party made up of people who claim the old patriotic workers' slogan of 'British Jobs For British Workers' is deeply racist can't be good news.

You wouldn't expect me to accept much of what you say. I don't buy into the old "political correctness gone mad" nonsense. Political correctness is a cover-all term dreamed up by the right as a blanket term for all social changes that attempt to improve relations between citizens, irrespective of race, class, sex, sexuality or ability. Sometimes some people get it wrong (calling Christmas "Holiday", for example) and then the right-wing media jump on it to discredit all change. If it weren't for so-called PC, we'd still be seeing TV comedians referring to nig-nogs, coons and Chalkie; still have series ridiculing gays (Are You Being Served, It Ain't Half 'Ot, Mum); we'd still have public buildings completely inaccessible to anyone not 100% able bodied; we'd still have open wage discrimination between male and female workers doing exactly the same job; we'd still have Clause 28 criminalising any discussion of diversity in schools. What you call PC is what most progressive-thinking people call non-discrimination.

There remain one or two Old Labour types in the PLP although what they think they are doing in such a sell-out organisation I can't imagine. Castro has many bad points; I've read Before Night Falls and was suitably horrified, but Cuba is no more repressive than a number of Latin American countries that the US and its followers are happy to support with their tax dollars. What it also is, is the country with the highest literacy rate in the World. It has the best educated population and best health service in Latin America despite the US blockade. Yes, political dissent is suppressed, as it is in Colombia, Honduras, Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador and Venezuela. Some of those regimes are leftist, most right-wing US satellites. What's so uniquely dreadful about Cuba?

Home Secretary calling asylum seekers "scum"? Jack Straw, 2001.

You're obviously worried about demographic changes too. In 2001 7.9% of the UK population were of non-white ethnicity. Projections suggest that may have risen to 9.5% when the census is done in 2011. There are currently just short of 1 million Muslims in Britain. Breakneck changes? It depends on what your definition of breakneck is.

British jobs for British workers these days means an end to multi-nationals buying up British industry on the cheap and then closing factories in order to produce goods under exploitative conditions in countries with few workplace protection laws, hence competing unfairly with British workers. On a day when American food giant Kraft, having given assurances in the run-up to their buy-out of Cadbury that they would keep the Bristol factory open, have announced that it will close. This is 6 days after publicly stating the opposite. That's capitalism for you, and it stinks.
 

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
I agree that liberalism (with a small 'l') has brought many agreeable things, such as greater tolerance of homosexuality or greater oppertunities for the lower classes. But I also say that the 'textbook' PC lunacy (for example prioritising sex lessons or 'non racist mathematics' above improving the catastrophic levels of literacy amongst our under-13s) pervades and distorts the entire concept of modern day Liberalism. I'm not saying obliterate beneficial social change, just stop the extremist proponents of it. And there are plenty of them. (They're the same breed who infiltrated the trade unions and use block-votes to foist changes in policy which ordinary members felt were extreme.)

I never understood the fuss made by the Left over Section 28. It's only reasonable that children are expected to brush up on academic subjects and leave the politics of sex to their later years. Indeed, there are no few television programmes and books setting out to tell the world that homosexuality, especially when flaunted, is as natural and unperverted as heterosexuality. (And before, perhaps, you start to say that 'gay lessons' are needed to stop bullying, all I can add to that is to say that on that ticket you might as well introduce unique 'trainspotter lessons', in order to stop other bullying against 'geeks'.)

(There's an interesting anecdote coming off the back of the Are You Being Served reference. In a recent documentary I remember John Inman saying he felt hurt when bitter gay lobby extremists wrote poison pen letters, saying that he 'put the cause of gay rights back 20 years'. He retorted by saying something like he got more credit from gay people who said that the well-loved Mr. Humpries character diffused a lot of hostility which many people felt towards homosexuals. Inman was always adamant that he always portrayed his character in a way natural to him and so it was hardly ridicule.)

The difference between Castro's Cuba and other US-sponsored countries in Latin America is that Castro's the one who is always feted by various rabble-rouser students and hippy cranks, pleased to dribble on about his achievement of clean tap water (!) and high literacy rate (all the better to indoctrinate childen with). And when they, as you do, have to admit some of the oppressions a Communist regime entails, they rationalise it by saying 'well other countries do it'.

On population, numbers are already too high. Britain is expected to support a breathtaking 75 million people by 2025 or so. As for demography, places like Slough or many boroughs of London are already ethnic-majority, culturally and racially altered. But despite that, for example, there is no end to the 'positive discrimination' policies which are often implemented to artificially increase ethnic minority public workers. (With much pressure also on private firms to take in extra ethnics merely for their bloodstock.) Usually, though, my position on the issue is that it's about 'space not race'. Britain is a small island with finite resources which are already being stretched by the current level of the population. 70 million is often considered, even by politicians, as the level at which supplies of amenities, food or living space may seriously denude supply (not to mention causing 'indigenous' public opinion to erupt violently against the immigration flood, given that illegal immigrants aren't quoted in the figures and that about a quarter of babies are now born to immigrants.)

But I pretty much agree with you on your last point. With no industrial base to call our own, how can we truly weather economic storms as we did in our glory days?



Historians Have Absolved Fidel Castro

Fidel Castro's Cuba: celebrating 50 years of progress, equality, poverty and murder – Telegraph Blogs

Coalition demands population be kept under 70 million - Telegraph

70 million is too many: Immigrant-fuelled population boom will damage society, say leading public figures at Catch The Fire Ministries

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rs-pushes-British-population-record-high.html

Why are our politicians ignoring the immigration timebomb? | Mail Online
 
Last edited:

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
And let's not forget that the immigration situation under Labour takes on even more sinister overtones when we recall the secret plan to 'rub the Right's nose in diversity'. This on direct defiance of Labour's own manifesto pledge to keep reasonable controls on immigration. In other words, the evil, nasty, jingoistic, racist, sexist, imperialistic, dominant and 'hideously white' British culture needed to be wiped out for the good of humanity. (Unfortunately, other cultures of the world also share other certain negative character traits which go strangely uncelebrated in all the diversity parades.)


Immigration and births to non-British mothers pushes British population to record high | Mail Online

DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Migration and a legacy of deceit | Mail Online

Labour wanted mass immigration to make UK more multicultural, says former adviser - Telegraph

Labour haven't quite vacated the Marxist Red planet of Leftiness just yet!


_______________________________________________


(And how DARE those white bastards still have the temerity be the majority in their own land: http://jonathanfryer.wordpress.com/2009/09/20/why-is-the-libdem-conference-still-so-hideously-white/ !!!

As Dafydd Thomas, Plaid Cymru boss, said in 2006 that he was disgusted to see 'a sea of white faces' in the Welsh Assembly, I'm sure he has a few ethnic-cleanser allies wishing to set this right:

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-18632851.html ! It's as if the Left are just begging to be 'misunderstood'!)
 
Last edited:

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
Last edited:

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
And let's not forget that the Leftist Western Establishments, enforcers of the common politically-correct 'moral' 'consensus', take 'equality' to such batty lengths that they end up denigrating their own kind - just to preserve a tilted equilibrium which they believe is level:

Joseph Harker: Of course all white people are racist | Society | The Guardian

Why are white people racist? - Yahoo! Answers

Margaret Hodge in 'too white' Proms row - mirror.co.uk

WHY ARE WHITE PEOPLE SO RACIST? - Is It Normal? - http://isitnormal.com

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVRnofUVQWI"]YouTube- "you can't be racist towards white people"[/ame]

Jo Brand: 'you can't be racist towards white people' – Telegraph Blogs

All White People Are Racist Suspects Blog Archive thefreeslave

You may be more racist than you think, study says - CNN.com

Is Racism Against White People Possible? - Blogcritics Culture


It's as if the twisted trendies think that we're the only people in the world capable of being bigoted:

BBC NEWS | UK | UK slave trade apology 'needed'


Jo Brand says that it's impossible to be racist towards whites merely because we're still, even now, the majority in our own land. Well, that didn't stop the raging Left from squawking about white racism against the native majority blacks in South Africa!

We're still supposed to prostrate before the world in abject tear-stained sorrow for the fact that our distant national leaders participated in a slave trade. But despite the fact that Britain was the last to join and the first to stop it, we're supposed to act as if we were the only people to do it. Indeed, Muslim slave trades still occur today, endorsed by their own religion, but you don't see the local Islamics pressed into a whirlwind of self-recrimination. I think they have more backbone than we to put up with that crap.

In British schools white children are press-ganged into feeling guilt and sorrow for the conditions of the slave trade, as if the white European slave trade could function without the co-operation of African tribal leaders and heartless people-traffickers. But if anyone should be bothered by grief-stricken Reds at all, it should be the few thousand or less of us who were descended from the actual white slave traders themselves. The rest of the poverty-stricken population lived barely better than the slaves and so we should be left unharassed.


But the Left has now become so peculiar that scientific quackery to diagnose 'racism' is in the ascendency, as well as other technology being questioned for 'racism' itself:

The brain scan that can read people's intentions | Science | The Guardian

Inside the mind of a racist: scans may reveal brain's hidden centres of prejudice | UK news | The Guardian

Police Performance (Civitas Blog)

Is Face Detection on Digital Cameras Racist?


These disharmonious, wicked, hypocritical Marxist nation-wreckers must learn that in order to have the kind of brotherhood of man they babble about, you must never put whites on an intense guilt trip to give normal people their own personality disorders.

Indeed, if the 'Liberal' Ar***oles are so cut up about being whites in a 'racist' land, why don't they either move abroad or commit suicide?
 
Last edited:

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
RACE IS A BIG OBSESSION WITH THE LEFT, SO LET'S ADD MY TUPPENCE-WORTH WITH THIS ADDENDUM:


Well, what do you know? Blacks can be racist too:

kill whitey - Google Videos


Black racism is every bit as bad as white racism - Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, Commentators - The Independent


[ame="http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=obama+anti+white+racist&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8"]obama anti white racist - Google Search[/ame]


http://showhype.com/story/hampton-university-s-first-white-homecoming-queen/ (Notice the word racism encased in quotes)


MP claims "black on white" racism | Mail Online


Police: Black attack on "Honkies" not a race crime – Telegraph Blogs


Jena – the US race lobby highlights black racism | LimbicNutrition Weblog


[ame="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=eCg&q=a+fight+nigger+white+all+jump+in&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq="]a fight nigger white all jump in - Google Search[/ame]




..But guess who are still the pariahs:

Blatant Anti-White Racism: Only Non-white Entrepreneurs Get Government Funding in Lon

Are there any films involving racism against white people? - Yahoo! UK & Ireland Answers

Minister labelled racist after attack on rap 'idiots' | UK news | The Guardian (though it's nice to see one of the Marxists get the 'rap'!)
 
Last edited:

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
These politically-correct Red oafs couldn't get their moral compasses degaussed if their lives depended on it:

BBC News - Complaint after Cherie Booth spares religious man jail

Either this is positive' discrimination, or another case of letting aggressive people off the hook because 'they never dun it before guv. Look, he's religious an' all'. Whichever way, with each new shambles we see, the demented Left goes further towards bringing its own much-needed nemesis.
 
Last edited:

Andalublue

Hello again!
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 2, 2010
Messages
27,100
Reaction score
12,356
Location
Granada, España
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
You ever get the impression you're talking to yourself, Bud?
 

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
I'm not doing it for your benefit. This is a data column too, linked-to from elsewhere.
 
Last edited:

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
CONCLUSION:

The ultimate treason of the modern Left is to use immigration as a method to repopulate the nation with people more likely to vote for parties like Labour:

Labour's secret plan to lure immigrants was borderline treason – and plain stupid – Telegraph Blogs



It's the greatest crime of the age for a government to oversee a nation of illiterate youngsters, with few skills and fewer prospects, and then let employers dump them on that pretext in favour of coolie labour shipped in from abroad. They call Britain a mongrel nation without real heritage, thus they treat this newly-branded leper territory as much.

But our masters are now nervous as the peasants revolt. Only recently are they pushing through greater encouragements for kids to acquire proper, useful trades to give the 'lazy' Brits a chance. And, in a u-turn on Blunkett's infamous 'no upper limit' pledge, Labour big-wheels backpedal on the 'need' for such heavyweight immigration:

Labour changes its tune over immigration limit as election looms - Telegraph




Anything getting in the way of the return to power of the great social engineers is bad, hence the bizarre comment from Margaret Hodge on how even black people may make the cardinal error of voting for who they want, rather than she:

"A greater concern for Labour is the candidacy of the Rev George Hargreaves, leader of the Christian Party, who has strong links to the big Pentecostalist churches proliferating in the area and who may shave away significant numbers of black voters from Labour. “I would much rather he was not standing,” Ms Hodge says"

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/election_2010/article7025463.ece




For New Labour it was never just about a quick-fix to fill a skills shortfall. It wasn't even merely about giving shelter to some of the neediest refugees. Nor for making it less impossible for people to emigrate to here from overseas to enjoy retirement in a more sophisticated land. For New Labour, immigration was ultimately a spiteful act of ethnic alchemy - a two-pronged plan to both demographically engineer larger votes for aggressive hippies, as well as to dilute and 'purify' existing populations which are usually slandered, maligned and then kept ignorant of their great heritage. (That is if not actually constantly told their British heritage was responsible only for great carnage and suffering, at the same time as being ordered to glory unquestioningly in all other world cultures.)

What hatreds our 'leaders' hold for their own people and place.
 
Last edited:

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
Ironic how New '24-hour pubs' Labour lambasts their favourite reactionary curtain-twitchers again:

Underage drinking 'is bigger problem for white middle class families' | Mail Online



And in a land where 'child-centered' discipline is encouraged by the State, with smacking naughty bottoms seen as a hate crime, do we wonder at this:

Parents 'avoid telling children off for fear of upsetting them', new survey finds | Mail Online

No wonder we have so many young louts, with yobby behaviour to be tolerated, rationalised, medically diagnosed with often phantom complaints and ever so lightly punished.


No wonder the f* * * piecies of politically-correct L*ft wing s* * are going to lose the next election!
 
Last edited:

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
Labour encouraged mass immigration even though it knew that voters opposed it, Whitehall documents confirmed yesterday.

The Government said the public disagreed with immigration because of 'racism' and ministers were told to try to alter public attitudes.



Chris Grayling has criticised Labour's Phil Woolas for secret immigration plans | Mail Online

New Labour's the name and social engineering is the game. Talking about a party which even now apologises for the British Empire and potato famine every five minutes, need we say more?
 
Last edited:

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
The ultimate treason of the modern Left is to use immigration as a method to repopulate the nation with people more likely to vote for parties like Labour..

Just for somewhere to put it, here's another article on New Labour opening the immigration and asylum dam for mere political expediency, at the end of this vast catalogue:

Labour in open borders storm: Demands for inquiry into claims migrants were let in so Tories could be accused of racism | Mail Online
 

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
....But now the malicious nation-wreckers have lost the election, the recriminations come out. This interests me:

'Hypocrite' Ed Balls claims Gordon Brown brushed aside his warnings on immigration | Mail Online


Never mind that we should take a slimy toad like Balls seriously, it's interesting that their conscious desire to 'change' Britain and cripple the morale and employment prospects of British workers (8m are now economically inactive) lost them the election. They wanted this massive free-for-all (except us) yet whine that it cost them almost as much respect and trust as they lost in 1979! They can't have it both ways.

Human cess!
 

Republic_Of_Public

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 16, 2009
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
343
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
In a late entry, further evidence of Labour thought policing:

The Death of Internet Freedom | Skip To The End

Left wing Political Correctness was always about sub-Marxist mind control, where only 'approved' opinions and ideas are allowed. The Internet is the biggest single boost to freedom of speech and ideas, hence so much frustration from leftists on fora and comment boards at those who disagree.

Once a communist, always a communist! Peter Mandelson would know that only too well!


_____________________________________


Further:

THINGS CAN ONLY GET LABOUR - Why the 'PC' quislings will lose the next election! (Speech)


MAIL COMMENT: How our liberties have been destroyed | Mail Online

CentreRight: In New Labour Britain, you can no longer look after a friend's children without being branded a criminal for not telling the Government about it

Trencherbone: Labour has deliberately destroyed British National identity.


Government to roll back Labour's 'erosion of civil liberties' - Yorkshire Post

Revealed: the full extent of Labour's curbs on civil liberties - UK Politics, UK - The Independent

Labour is creating a police state, says former spy chief | Mail Online

Police State Britain: New Labour invents 33 new crimes every month

Signs of the EU police state



With such demented socialist control-freakery, no wonder ballot rigging was a natural move: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/71937-new-labour-rig-election-again.html

Leftists of most flavours may couch their language in terms of 'tolerance', 'diversity', 'liberalism' or 'equality', but when they get to power you find they place great emphasis on punishment for those not fitting the dogma. Punishment for having too much money, punishment for speaking out on taboo issues, or punishment for 'taking the law into your own hands' by tackling misunderstood yobs or punishment for driving a big car or putting out too much rubbish.




Commie riff-raff:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/60068-labours-soviet-chumminess-revealed.html
 
Last edited:

freemycatfish

New member
Joined
Sep 12, 2010
Messages
2
Reaction score
2
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
An article by me. Or, in lefty-speak: Ere is a fing wot I writ. Can I ave me a-level pass now miss? :lol:

How To Destroy Sanity, Morality, A Country And Your Family.
(An article, not for the brave, but the gutless)


Look up the word abnormal in a dictionary. This is something like what you will generally find:

abnormality - an abnormal physical condition resulting from defective genes or
developmental deficiencies or introduced external factors such as drugs, radiation etc.
abnormality - retardation sufficient to fall outside the normal range of intelligence
abnormality - marked strangeness as a consequence of being abnormal
abnormality - behaviour that breaches the rule or etiquette or custom or morality


Defective. Retarded. Strange. Perverse. Behaviour that falls outside of acceptable decency. Raoul Mote in the UK was recently hunted to his death for being all of those things. The pseudo mother and rent-a-dad that tortured and murdered Baby Peter are in jail now because they fall into the category of being sub-normal, but why are we putting these people in prison if we are a “progressive society” concerned with the rights of minorities? Surely child murderers and cop shooters are a minority too aren't they? Surely their rights are important in a “tolerant” society.


Think about this hypothetical situation and see how it makes you feel.


Imagine if all of your countries paedophiles got together and formed a social action group pressing for the “right” to be allowed to prey on children sexually. Let's say they called their group activities, “Happy.”


Consider how you would feel if they told you that they cannot help being what they are because they were born that way and it is genetic. How would you feel to be told by them that it is YOU that are abnormal because you both hate and fear these people for what they do and want to do to your children. A new word suddenly enters the common language to describe people like you. You are “peadophobic.” Under the definition of this newly invented word, you are now the abnormal one for objecting to having your children raped.


The paedophiles hold “Proud to be Happy rallies” and march through the streets dressed in bizarre costumes and exhibiting strange behaviour. Perhaps dressed in nappies (a diaper, if you are American) and carrying little children’s dolls. Singing loudly, songs that celebrate their “differences” or which decry their past treatment. Maybe they adopt a strange, artificial way of speaking and pepper their language with slang terms which they begin to push for you to adopt as normal language. Language which is obsessively sexual in nature and filled with innuendo and near-the-knuckle remarks. They form “Happy” police associations and press for the recruitment of more “Happy” policemen and women so that they can be better represented in the community and can “educate” other police officers into accepting them. “Happy” lawyers, judges and politicians come out of the closet and begin to press for changes in the law. Television personalities, politicians and journalists, always wanting to look “trendy” and “cutting edge” and “right on” and “left wing” begin to adopt the paedophiles slogans and support their call to be “recognised” as “normal members of a progressive and tolerant society.” Church leaders come out strongly against this idea but are shouted down. Made to look old fashioned and any teachings against this sick behaviour found in the Bible are ridiculed, twisted out of context and mocked. Anyone who objects is branded a “normal” and told to stop being perverse and twisted and just accept “Happiness” (paedophilia) as mainstream; but every time you use the words 'happy' or 'happiness' they leave a bad taste in your mouth no matter what the social manipulators say and you regret the passing of their original meanings.


You now no longer dare to shout after your children as they go off to school, “Have a great day and be happy.” You stop using the word altogether in its proper context because it gnaws at your mind and turns your stomach.


In the legislature of your country, the “progressive” ones sit down to invent laws making “paedophobia” illegal. Now YOU can go to jail if you dare to voice your objections to their perverse behaviour. You have become the abnormal one and the national print and electronic media pound you, daily, with programs designed to make you all feel incredibly guilty because paedophiles were jailed for their behaviour in the past. You are told you are “dinosaurs” if you disagree with paedophilia and their practice of raping children is spun to us as a beautiful thing that both the children and the adults involved enjoy. Cop shows are made to ridicule the old beliefs against “Happy” people. The United Nations and the EU have a drive to force all countries everywhere to accept “Happiness” and the raping of children old enough to give their consent (i.e. They can talk) as a fundamental human right. Adoption agencies are forced to allow children to be adopted by “Happy” parents. Schools are told to promote and teach paedophilia as a normal activity. Movies are made glorifying the “naive sexuality of children” as something wonderful to be exploited, made sacred and revered. Paedophile priests start demanding the right to be made Bishops in the Church and huge splits happen in the denominations.


Would you think the world had gone crazy?
You would be right if your answer is yes.


However, this has already been done to you, at least twice. The first time was over feminism and the second was over homosexuals. You have been lured away from normality and plunged into a weird, new, but false, “reality” that has had terrible consequences and is actually killing people and it has all happened to appease two groups that hate your guts. Worse still, you have bought into it and accepted the perverse as normal because you were too lazy to object and too browbeaten to get your arguments against this madness into some form of coherent shape. You have sacrificed all that is good and decent on the alters of spin, lies and insanity and it is killing everything that once glued your society and land together. You have sold your soul and the souls of your children to the devil and now you are reaping his rewards. Is that really what you wanted in order to look “progressive” and “tolerant.” Are “leaders” that promote these things really the kind of people you want taking moral decisions on your behalf?


You were sucked into supporting feminism and homosexuality because those promoting it changed and distorted the language they were using to describe it. The real motives of these groups was hidden from you while you were pounded with guilt and fear if you dared to disagree. This massively dangerous and Satanic attack against you and your family is no accident of history. It is a carefully planned and evil attack on your family, your society, your way of life, your spirit and your mind. Everything that is decent and good has been branded old fashioned and defunct and you are being sold a bill of goods that will rob you of your very humanity and already has to a frightening degree. A relatively tiny group of sick, perverted, amoral people are destroying everything that makes your country stable under the disguise of “progressive and tolerant political correctness.” They are wilfully and with huge malice, spreading this rot through your country and using the media, certain politicians and unthinking celebrities and a barrage of naked, black, psychological propaganda to do it. It is as if they were deliberately injecting your body with cancer cells in order to kill it.


They are sacrificing our marriages, our families, our fathers our mothers, our religion and the health and and futures of our children on the alter of rights (not responsibilities and morality but “rights”) so that a few homosexuals can get their sexual thrills and they are using false guilt and fear of prosecution for objecting to this sickness in order to do it.


Feminists and homosexuals have sworn to destroy the family, replacing it with their version of a “new family” because that is the only way they can get you and I to accept them. They hate the traditional family and everything it stands for because it excludes them. They are busy replacing normality with abnormality. Sanity with madness. Stability with chaos. Health with sickness. Manners with crass linguistic brutality. Decency with perversion and in the process they are destroying the lives of our nations children and parents and they could not give a damn because they hate all that YOU stand for and want for YOUR children if you are in any way decent.


It does not matter to these perverted people how many of our children die because their families have been destroyed and they end up on drugs, in gangs, or in prison. It does not matter to them that our children are failing in schools and being left out of the jobs market. It does not matter to them that fathers are killing themselves because they cannot see their children. It does not matter to them that again and again we are seeing children being abused in the home by single women who cannot cope with trying to work and bring up a family alone. Or because they are inviting an endless series of temporary rent-a-dads into their homes that they do not know and their kids are not safe with. Or that children like Baby Peter are being murdered by their selfish single mums and their live-in boyfriends. None of that matters as a long as this minority of perverts can kiss and hold hands in public and the feminists can seize power and dictate to us all how we must live according to their rules and not the rules we have spent thousands of years fighting for and establishing as normal.


This is what they mean by “tolerance” and “equality” but there is no tolerance, no mercy, no equality for their victims. We are being force fed a sick and twisted morality and told we are “right on” and “progressive” if we support the destruction of our children and families! All of this is happening so that a tiny minority can suck each others genitals and they call this society, built upon this perversion “civilized.” This is not civilization. This is the destruction of civilization.


If you have believed that feminism is about equality between the sexes you have believed the lie. Those words are smoke screens. Smoke and mirrors designed to obscure the real agenda. Feminism, like militant homosexuality is about the destruction of the family and decent, law abiding family life. Research it and look at what they have said about destroying the family and how they are going to do it. Don't take my word for it. Get off your lazy behind, connect to the Internet and start taking responsibility for the lives of your family, children and your country again. That is, if you still love those things.


If you are one of those who could not be bothered to think about these things when they were happening and you quickly trotted off to the polling booths with your mind switched off, to vote yet more of these sick people into power as quickly as you could, because you were missing your favourite soap opera or football match on the TV, then what we have now is your fault and the blood of our dead children is on your hands.


When you next ask, 'what is wrong with my country?' look in a mirror because the answer is YOU.


You are the one that failed to take a stand for decency and truth. It was you that kept quiet and did not want to put his or her head over the parapet in case the sickos took a shot at you. It was your cowardice that has led to this nightmare and it is only when you find the guts to fight for decency again that the rot can be stopped.


Do you have the guts to stand up for what is right?


If so, do it now because tomorrow is too late.


It is time for decent people everywhere in the world to take a long and careful stock of what really matters to them. Are you one of them?


George Rolph.
London.
 
Top Bottom