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Louisiana Lawmaker Forced to Clarify There Was No ‘Good’ in Slavery

Sure.. just like you don;t think covid happened.

I love your intellectual disconnects. So on one hand you believe that politicians are trying to control you by mask wearing, and emasculating you. That the whole covid deal is about control and fear.

but then you cannot wrap your head around those same politicians.. writing an ID law with the intent to accept those ID's that their constituents hold.. while not accepting the ID's of those that tend to vote for their political opponents?

THATS what's silly on your part.

The facts are that democrats have been against voter ID laws because often those laws have been done to deny photo ID's that their constituents are more likely to have, for example college/student photo ID.
While only accepting those that republican voters often have.. like drivers licenses.

Its NOT because democrats think " black people are too stupid to get ID".

You need to keep quiet and embarrass yourself less.
Black people don't have a driver's license because? They don't know the last four of their SS number because? They can't go to a DMV to get ID even if they don't drive because?
 
Is that all you have the fortitide for? List making? 😂

While you're making lists... 😂

Yep, the big money has already told you who they think is going to emerge victorious.

On the other side of that, of us securing patronage from the wealthy elite, is your side being starved more and more for resources. You can't wage war without money and resources. Not an effective one anyway.

Are these changes ruining America? Maybe to mutants and racists I suppose. These changes though are what the majority are advocating for.

What's so hard to see about your eventual extinction as a people and a culture? You have no path to victory, not even a violent one. But you don't even have the fortitude for that. So instead you will lose bit by bit at first and then all at once when demography and momentum catch up to you.

Re: “not even a violent one”— this presumes that a majority of white people are going to indefinitely indulge the destructive whims of progressives and White Haters of all races. You would like to believe that white guilt will remain a mandate for the future, but it may last no longer than White Northerners’ passion for Reconstruction. If you were as devoted to rationality as you claim, you could admit that.
 
Black people don't have a driver's license because? They don't know the last four of their SS number because? They can't go to a DMV to get ID even if they don't drive because?

The standard reply to this so far on this thread has been that there are real voters, often if not always voters of color, who have been denied their right to vote by conservative voting standards. But in the spirit of the “evidence” that so many Mad Libs claim to desire— where are all these people? Fox News is replete with citizens relating their run-ins with CRT or border incursions. Surely one should find just as many testimonies from disenfranchised voters on the two major liberal cable stations. That means not just one or two complaints, but a couple dozen at least.

Can such evidence be produced, or not?
 
It is not so much having secured patronage, it is more it seems to me that on a world-scale there is a 'larger plan'. I cannot say that this is exactly 'communistic' but then it does represent a general cooperation between extremely large governing forces in *collusion* (cooperation) with the vast industries which, as is always the case I guess, stand behind the various social governments.
Your observational skills aren't worth shit. The idea that wealthy elites would be colluding with world leaders to usher in global communism is ridiculous. 😂 Think instead global monopoly. They collude together to make money not to help poor people. That much should be obvious. Does the type of globalism you're describing, where companies can move their manufacturing oversees to exploit cheap labor, does that seem like a progressive policy to you? Really? Its the free market capitalists that would allow the sort of economic conditions to exist where wealthy companies could put profits over the lives of the American worker. What patronage they give to us is capitulation not cooperation.
But I think that what you are saying, what you are aware of, is true: whatever is going on has a great deal to do with behind the scenes power-struggles. I do not fully understand these struggles and I am not sure who does, yet they are real. They are national, international and global.
You sure don't understand them. It's the first thing I'll agree with you on.
So it seems fair and accurate to say a larger, global system is being *installed* or perhaps *implemented*. One hears this term all the time: globalism, and global elites (Davos, etc.) but the question I ask is: Is it true?
Yea that was called capitalism, it happened a while ago.
Oh I definitely understand what you are getting at, Mr Fight the Powers That Be. But I tend to believe that what people *advocate* for is not necessarily something that arises organically within the masses. What I imply is that what is being *advocated* has links to the mechanisms of social control -- PR and propaganda essentially.
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How is that different from any other time in human history? What's an example of an organic political movement? The truth is everything is propaganda. Communication and speech are propaganda. There are old, enduring forms of propaganda like religion and patriotism and newer impermanent ones like pumpkin spice latte and hot yoga. If you are arguing that there is some sort of objective truth that existed before propaganda then it can be measured and observed scientifically so state it and we will see if it measures up to reality.
But I have to say that I do not see *progress* and *ascent* going on around me, speaking generally, as I see every day more and more evidence of decline.
That's your right but in a democracy the rest of us have a right to disagree. It could very well be that what you see as decline others, even a politically and cultural majority of others, sees otherwise. In that case you're just shit out of luck.
The last time I was up in the States I was appalled by what I saw on the streets. This is not the beginning of a great Social Unity with attendant projects. It is really something else.
Personally, I couldn't be happier you felt that way. It pleases me to no end to watch your lot swear off American institution after American institution because they have decided to capitulate to the left.
But doesn't this hinge on this issue that what we see, what we see right in front of us, is distorted by our unwillingness to really see? Thus I return, time and again, to my core statement: We refuse to see the truth and to state the truth. We employ lies and deceptions to trick ourselves.
And what is this truth that we all aren't seeing?
 
Re: “not even a violent one”— this presumes that a majority of white people are going to indefinitely indulge the destructive whims of progressives and White Haters of all races. You would like to believe that white guilt will remain a mandate for the future, but it may last no longer than White Northerners’ passion for Reconstruction. If you were as devoted to rationality as you claim, you could admit that.
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Are you waiting for white northerners to save your country? Did all the good ole' boys turn rent boys? Is that why you let us take an election from you? 🤣
 
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Yep, predictable like most Mad Libs. Although I didn’t predict you using the exact same reversal twice. I guess I can never anticipate the depths of lameness to which Mad Libs will descend in their futile attempts to be clever.

You just keep lying on the ground (in both senses of the word “lying”) and moo every once in a while; maybe someone will come along and pick you up.
Your desperation reeks, try something new.
 
Your observational skills aren't worth shit. The idea that wealthy elites would be colluding with world leaders to usher in global communism is ridiculous. Think instead global monopoly. They collude together to make money not to help poor people. That much should be obvious. Does the type of globalism you're describing, where companies can move their manufacturing oversees to exploit cheap labor, does that seem like a progressive policy to you? Really? Its the free market capitalists that would allow the sort of economic conditions to exist where wealthy companies could put profits over the lives of the American worker. What patronage they give to us is capitulation not cooperation.
Hold on. I said "I cannot say that this is exactly 'communistic' but then it does represent a general cooperation between extremely large governing forces in *collusion* (cooperation) with the vast industries which, as is always the case I guess, stand behind the various social governments."

You are under the illusion, I think, that what you call Progressive policy by the Party that holds that moniker has the real interests of people at heart. Power tends to use whatever means to consolidate power. I can appreciate many Left-Progressive values if they defend the family and the working man (and defend other sound values) but I think you might have an 'observation skill issue'. And this has to do with vast capital interests and the way they secure their interests. In a period of social crisis those who have real *ownership interest* very carefully survey what is going on and do what needs be done to secure their position.

True, a classic 'communism' does not seem to be on the horizon, but there are authoritarian tendencies among the present *elites*, and certainly visible in the Biden'Harris regime, which tend to that centralization Paradoxical speaks of.

Good point to insert Jonathan Bowden talking about the Left and Marxism:



I extend to you very little capacity for sound analysis about what is going on -- I mean that which has to do with powers operating behind the scenes. You say *We are winning* but in truth I'd suggest that you are not. You are given the illusion of gaining ground but, as I say, in your case anyone feeding your astounding anger, contempt and hatred to them you will grant all sorts of concessions.

You are being played, of course, but the African America in America has been played from day one. That is what happens to a people with limited or no agency. As long as you are useful, you are played. And when there is no longer a need, you-plural are often left with very little. That has been the historical patter, I think. Many people have pointed this out.
Does the type of globalism you're describing, where companies can move their manufacturing oversees to exploit cheap labor, does that seem like a progressive policy to you?
No, it doesn't, but then I do not have faith in the collusion between 'progressives' and what we have been calling 'socialization' and 'socialism'. I think that governments and corporations -- this nexus -- will grant socialistic concessions in order to secure their power and keep social unrest at bay. This points to a different sort of socialized system. But the same interests are said to stand behind it.
 
You are under the illusion, I think, that what you call Progressive policy by the Party that holds that moniker has the real interests of people at heart. Power tends to use whatever means to consolidate power.
That vague omen is quaint but what politicians actually vote for is a matter of public record. If you're uniformed about the record of some politician you support that's on you.
I can appreciate many Left-Progressive values if they defend the family and the working man (and defend other sound values) but I think you might have an 'observation skill issue'. And this has to do with vast capital interests and the way they secure their interests. In a period of social crisis those who have real *ownership interest* very carefully survey what is going on and do what needs be done to secure their position.
Thanks for that incredibly generic statement about how power operates. 😂
True, a classic 'communism' does not seem to be on the horizon, but there are authoritarian tendencies among the present *elites*, and certainly visible in the Biden'Harris regime, which tend to that centralization Paradoxical speaks of.
If classic communism isn't on the horizon then why did you mention it earlier when you clearly meant crony capitalism? You know what never mind. That question is rhetorical. We know why.
I extend to you very little capacity for sound analysis about what is going on -- I mean that which has to do with powers operating behind the scenes.
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You can't even name these *powers*. You called them global communists earlier... 😂
You say *We are winning* but in truth I'd suggest that you are not. You are given the illusion of gaining ground but, as I say, in your case anyone feeding your astounding anger, contempt and hatred to them you will grant all sorts of concessions.
And that's not what I mean by winning. Our victory over the moderates and establishment is no where near in sight. I'm speaking exclusively of our victory over you. Do you not recognize it? You come close to the realization when you say they offer us concessions but think for a moment what those concessions are. They are throwing you and your ideology and culture to the wolves so that they can stave off conflict with us. You and yours are the peace offering.
 
You are being played, of course, but the African America in America has been played from day one. That is what happens to a people with limited or no agency.
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That more accurately describes poor Southern whites. A New York elitist who was born a millionaire, who was literally a trust fund baby, convinced millions of them that he cared for and fought for them. Black Americans have never had those illusions. They might not of always had enough economic, political or social power to do anything about it but they know what's what and you are starting to see black Americans and other minorities wield their social power for political and economic change. The white wing on the other hand has largely accepted the narrative that the rich deserve to be rich and the poor, even if it's themselves, deserve to be poor. Not only that but that nearly anything the rich do in pursuit of more wealth is generally OK. That globalism is bad but so are government regulations that would prevent it. Meanwhile they believe the real issue is whether or not they get to police the bedroom, the bathroom, and the exam room.
As long as you are useful, you are played. And when there is no longer a need, you-plural are often left with very little. That has been the historical patter, I think. Many people have pointed this out.
Heed that warning yourself white winger. Considering all I said above why would the capitalists abandon such a gullible consumer base? Maybe because demography is destiny? They'd love for everyone to be customers but if they must choose why not the larger audience especially with the younger generation who are overwhelmingly liberal? Better to try and instill brand loyalty from now. Hey kids! We're woke! 😂
No, it doesn't, but then I do not have faith in the collusion between 'progressives' and what we have been calling 'socialization' and 'socialism'. I think that governments and corporations -- this nexus -- will grant socialistic concessions in order to secure their power and keep social unrest at bay. This points to a different sort of socialized system. But the same interests are said to stand behind it.
What do you want to do instead then? Abandon capitalism all together? Accept its excess and inequity? Or find a balance with capitalism, competition and a strong social safety net? Isn't that a happy compromise?
 
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The only argument I remember you’ve advanced re: “he doesn’t deserve social benefit of the doubt” Is your conviction that GZ was racial profiling. Your only proof of that is evidence taken from a period AFTER society condemned GZ prior to trial. Is that the explanation you mean?

This is not an argument. This is a claim which was supported by evidence and arguments that I have already made. As said, you mentality is designed to let racism unobstructed by social criticism based on your irrational burden of proof since you require that people should first learn to read other people's minds. As I said. tis is not a requirement. And the proof that Zimmerman is a racist is not based solely on the fact that he was participating in public events after his trial using the confederate flag. It is also based on the fact of what he said in his 911 call where he showed clear and unreasonable bias against a black person. Your point that crime rates in the community justifies such bias makes no sense. It can EXPLAIN why some people are racists but it does not justify their attitude!
 
This is getting pretty far off the original topic (for which we have the gibbering of Auntie A to thank), but have you SPECIFIC sources for your allegation re: Southern conservatives?

And while I believe unions were a necessary step, not all Lefties advocated them purely for sweet love of humanity. Many Union organizers had the agenda of promoting Communism, and they turned a blind eye to the abuses of that system on the theory that the robber barons were the greater evil.

Regarding race issues read about the political realignment in the South and about all these Souther conservatives who still feel the need to honor Democrat (at the time of the Civil War) traitors and repeat their points about "state rights," the Confederate flag, or repeat their fear mongering about the black crime.


Regarding business-union issues, you can see the "right to work states" are and the points conservatives make. And yes, many communists were involved in unions just like many communists were involved in civil rights. MLK's aids were accused of being communists who were influencing him. And at least one of them was for sure at some point a member of the communist party).


In February 1962, Hoover told Attorney General Robert Kennedy that Stanley Levison, one of King’s closest advisors, was “a secret member of the Communist Party” (Hoover, 14 February 1962). In the following months, Hoover deployed agents to find subversive material on King, and Robert Kennedy authorized wiretaps on King’s home and Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) offices in October 1963.

Conservatives never became free of their fear of communism, so it is STILL okay to oppose everything communists ever supported even when this is about benefiting workers or black people. At least the Democrats (who were also afraid of communism ) managed to move forward.
 
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Black people don't have a driver's license because? They don't know the last four of their SS number because? They can't go to a DMV to get ID even if they don't drive because?
People don't have drivers licenses because: They live in a city where having a car is a liability not an asset. Having a car actually costs them more. for storage, licensing, and insurance.
2. They are elderly and no longer can drive
3. They have a disability that precludes driving.. such as being blind etc.
For those that don;t because of city living. That includes a lot of black people that live in urban areas.

If you have ever been to the DMV in these areas.. you would understand why its difficult for people to get to the DMV. Often it necessitates take a day or more off from work.
When I lived in Philly, It took 3 different times of going to the DMV before I actually got up to the DMV window to do my business. I had to go to the other side of philly to get in. Business hours? 9 to 4 at the time. Not the best for a working person.
 
People don't have drivers licenses because: They live in a city where having a car is a liability not an asset. Having a car actually costs them more. for storage, licensing, and insurance.
2. They are elderly and no longer can drive
3. They have a disability that precludes driving.. such as being blind etc.
For those that don;t because of city living. That includes a lot of black people that live in urban areas.

If you have ever been to the DMV in these areas.. you would understand why its difficult for people to get to the DMV. Often it necessitates take a day or more off from work.
When I lived in Philly, It took 3 different times of going to the DMV before I actually got up to the DMV window to do my business. I had to go to the other side of philly to get in. Business hours? 9 to 4 at the time. Not the best for a working person.
Cry me a river over some 95 year old that doesn't drive or have any SS #
 
🙃If classic communism isn't on the horizon then why did you mention it earlier when you clearly meant crony capitalism? You know what never mind. That question is rhetorical. We know why.
I think you should stop using that *we*. Unless you mean a 'royal we'. 🙃

I mentioned it because very strange and unprecedented things are going on today. That is pretty obvious, isn't it?

What I refer to is an amalgamation of capitalist enterprise that resolves to support, and even to sponsor, socialist programs -- whatever it takes to secure and maintain power.

I am not sure anyone can say exactly what is on the horizon. Things are happening that are unlike any other period of time.
 
You come close to the realization when you say they offer us concessions but think for a moment what those concessions are. They are throwing you and your ideology and culture to the wolves so that they can stave off conflict with us. You and yours are the peace offering.
What I meant to say is:
You are given the illusion of gaining ground but, as I say, in your case anyone who feeds your astounding anger, contempt and hatred, to them you will grant all sorts of concessions. And what I think that means is that you will trade sovereignty for another form of bondage.
 
Cry me a river over some 95 year old that doesn't drive or have any SS #
So its okay to disenfranchise the elderly now. Oh wait.. thats right.. you think its fine that they die of covid..

And we are not just talking about one elderly person.

Studies show 11 to 19% of US citizens don;t have a photo ID.
 
So its okay to disenfranchise the elderly now. Oh wait.. thats right.. you think its fine that they die of covid..

And we are not just talking about one elderly person.

Studies show 11 to 19% of US citizens don;t have a photo ID.
Residents meaning illegals and children?
 
No . I said CITIZENS.
And I call bullshit. there is no way 11% of voting citizens don't have an ID.

Was this from the NY Slimes, WaPo, HuffPo, or some other lying outlet?
 
Your post had nothing to do with IDs. It was a scumbag post, on par with your usual crap.
Look, I know who you are. You never argue the facts. It's all emotion and hyperbole with you. The reason they don't want IDs is so illegals can vote and they can't track fraud votes because, well, the Democrats are the party of the elite, or fraud, of deceit and of evil. THEY are the scumbags you should be railing over....not fake crying over some 100-year-old in West Virginia who never had an ID. The Democrats are evil personified intent on ruining America. They are letting illegals into every city who has Covid. That is why there has been an uptick.
 
And I call bullshit. there is no way 11% of voting citizens don't have an ID.

Was this from the NY Slimes, WaPo, HuffPo, or some other lying outlet?

From ACLU


  • Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification.1

The note shows as a source the Brennan Center for Justice,
Citizens without Proof: A Survey of Americans’ Possession of Documentary Proof of Citizenship and Photo Identification
(New York: Brennan Center for Justice, 2006),

Now, it is YOUR turn to show the studies you have that make you certain that there is no way 11% of voting citizens not having a government-issued photo ID. And no! Attacking the political leaning of the source does not refute their study. Also, the ACLU has a record of taking a stance on issues that are not aligned with liberal ideology. One such case was their stance against Obama's gun regulation laws and mental illness.
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