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LOOKS like a worldwide secession of conservatives from liberals is COMING

since science says that women and babies are helped the best when giving birth from 18-20.... then that would make her parents around 40 and the babies great grandparents 60 and the babies great great grandparents be 80.. this then brings the correct balance of help for a nation.... the child gets raised by several parents and the old 80 gets money and help from the alot younger working and taxed...THIS is why the social security is draining nations not enough young to bring the balance of help..

so this will change to stop this liberaiism harm because humans are pre wired to stop harm

So not only are your post almost unintelligible, when I can actually make sense of what you are saying, I find out you don't know what you are talking about...

NEVER BEFORE IN HUMAN HISTORY has our planet contained so many older people— or such a large percentage of them. This has not always been the case. As late as 1930, America's older population numbered less than 7 million—only 5.4% of the population.

Today, one in three Americans is now 50 or older. By 2030 one in five U.S. residents will be 65 and older. One out of every 8 Americans is considered "old" and represent 12.9% of the U.S. population. Those age 65 and older numbered 41.5 million in 2012, a number that has continued to explode.

The U.S. Census Bureau brief on data from the 2010 Census shows seniors increasing faster than younger populations, raising the nation's median age from 35.3 in 2000 to 37.2 in 2010, with seven states having a median age of 40 or older.

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More than plenty elderly folks to help raise babies.

oh.. and... herp derp librulz are ebil herp derp!
 
That's an odd non sequitur. I am proved wrong regularly - it's part of learning, which I enjoy. But even if true, not relevant to the discussion or my point.

So if you're trying to demonstrate your likely F on that "high logical thinking ability test" you're making good progress.

you not understanding logic and what it does makes you like a blind person... not your fault that you cannot see.. logic helps one understand good from bad.. true from false and value from non value.. it is the predictors and the inventors and the ones that control the world
 
So not only are your post almost unintelligible, when I can actually make sense of what you are saying, I find out you don't know what you are talking about...

Today, one in three Americans is now 50 or older. By 2030 one in five U.S. residents will be 65 and older. One out of every 8 Americans is considered "old" and represent 12.9% of the U.S. population. Those age 65 and older numbered 41.5 million in 2012, a number that has continued to explode.

The U.S. Census Bureau brief on data from the 2010 Census shows seniors increasing faster than younger populations, raising the nation's median age from 35.3 in 2000 to 37.2 in 2010, with seven states having a median age of 40 or older.

link...

More than plenty elderly folks to help raise babies.

oh.. and... herp derp librulz are ebil herp derp!


This is why liberal nations will fall... the old does not have enough young to work and help.. the big error by euro union was trying to solve the problem IN THE WRONG WAY.. running the young of lower IQ's and harmful religions.. they must stop liberalism to solve that problem
 
since science says that women and babies are helped the best when giving birth from 18-20.... then that would make her parents around 40 and the babies great grandparents 60 and the babies great great grandparents be 80.. this then brings the correct balance of help for a nation.... the child gets raised by several parents and the old 80 gets money and help from the alot younger working and taxed...THIS is why the social security is draining nations not enough young to bring the balance of help..

so this will change to stop this liberaiism harm because humans are pre wired to stop harm

Yeah, you're missing a bit of the old high logical thinking there. The ratios will vary a great deal, could even flip among generations, depending on how many kids each couple has on average, and you haven't provided that key missing piece. And then you'd need to estimate death rates as well, and know something about the timing of the deaths.
 
This is why liberal nations will fall... the old does not have enough young to work and help.. the big error by euro union was trying to solve the problem IN THE WRONG WAY.. running the young of lower IQ's and harmful religions.. they must stop liberalism to solve that problem

Sig quote... thank you.
 
you not understanding logic and what it does makes you like a blind person... not your fault that you cannot see.. logic helps one understand good from bad.. true from false and value from non value.. it is the predictors and the inventors and the ones that control the world

My logic is working fine and I can see good from bad, value from non value, and that right there is obvious drivel - some fancy sounding words saying nothing and in fact making no sense, literally not comprehensible as written.
 
Yeah, you're missing a bit of the old high logical thinking there. The ratios will vary a great deal, could even flip among generations, depending on how many kids each couple has on average, and you haven't provided that key missing piece. And then you'd need to estimate death rates as well, and know something about the timing of the deaths.

you are missing important points and bringing less important points.. the most important point is that nations must bring a very high logical thinking ability test for their nation and if they do the true wise will stampede there also to help the progress to SOAR
 
you are missing important points and bringing less important points.. the most important point is that nations must bring a very high logical thinking ability test for their nation and if they do the true wise will stampede there also to help the progress to SOAR

Dude... are you english as a second language?
 
you are missing important points and bringing less important points.. the most important point is that nations must bring a very high logical thinking ability test for their nation and if they do the true wise will stampede there also to help the progress to SOAR

And by that I think you mean a race test for which whites like you will always pass (except for the poors and obviously disabled - they'll get weeded out with the others), but the others - sometimes referred to as mud people but non-white - will have to prove themselves with a test of some kind. I'm not sure what will happen to brown children. I'm guessing maybe the 'test' might be just a straight race test where "high logical thinking" is presumed for whites and presumed absent for colored folks, otherwise you might have a colored person pass the test only to have predictably inferior children who shouldn't be full citizens, and that would be awkward.
 
Dude... are you english as a second language?

Yeah, right, and he's the person saying this: "the most important point is that nations must bring a very high logical thinking ability test." :doh :lamo
 
Yeah, right, and he's the person saying this: "the most important point is that nations must bring a very high logical thinking ability test." :doh :lamo

That's the BEST SOLUTION TO EVERYTHING
 
Merkel is leftist, which makes her conservative in Germany, as social-market policy is traditional now and libertine market orientation is progressive. It is only that like in the US terms sort of outlive themselves, where liberals are not at all liberal in the original sense of the word but more the opposite.

Merkel is a conservative of the Christian Conservative party of Germany. She and her party are fiscal conservatives with some liberal views on social issues. So to call her a leftist is just silly.
 
Merkel is a conservative of the Christian Conservative party of Germany. She and her party are fiscal conservatives with some liberal views on social issues. So to call her a leftist is just silly.

Merkel is still protecting the liberals who caused their big imbalance of young to old that made her make a big error of running in low IQ's to help the balance BUT that destroys a nation also... her not speaking of the cause proves she is a liberal
 
Merkel is still protecting the liberals who caused their big imbalance of young to old that made her make a big error of running in low IQ's to help the balance BUT that destroys a nation also... her not speaking of the cause proves she is a liberal

More baseless evidence free fantasy nonsense. Sorry, but you are barking up the wrong forest.
 
More baseless evidence free fantasy nonsense. Sorry, but you are barking up the wrong forest.

what causes big imbalances of young to old.. what??? there is a cause can you understand what causes that harm?
 
what causes big imbalances of young to old.. what??? there is a cause can you understand what causes that harm?

There is an imbalance of sorts between young and old due to the baby boomers and more important is the fact that people do not procreate like semi-rabbits any more and that they are now having just 1 or 2 children rather than 10. But as soon as the baby boomers are no longer with us there is no imbalance anymore.
 
There is an imbalance of sorts between young and old due to the baby boomers and more important is the fact that people do not procreate like semi-rabbits any more and that they are now having just 1 or 2 children rather than 10. But as soon as the baby boomers are no longer with us there is no imbalance anymore.


WRONG it is because of 70 million american young killed by abortion and the increase in gay lifestyle that also does not bring kids....its simply is caused by LIBERALISM
 
conservative states will make 2 demands to the liberal states and if not then they will secede...... abortion illegal which will stop the big imbalance of young to old and a wisdom test for voters which will totally stop liberalism to ever rise again.. there is no power with liberals the conservatives are the men and military and law enforcement

How would a wisdon test work exactly? Out of all the 6 basic rpg stats (strength, dexterity, constitution, intelligence, wisdom, and charisma)(nerd! Nerd! Neeeerd!!!) The only one less concrete and more abstract than Wisdom is Charisma. Wisdom would be excessively hard to test the general populace for eapecially since it can be pretty subjective in its application. the quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgment; the quality of being wise. With as difficult and questionably accurate of a reading of a persons' intelligence you can discern from the standard IQ tests (which have been refined by people whose expertise in the field dwarfs mine to a comical degree) it would be nearly impossible to come up with a standardized WQ test that would even come close to setting a widely accepted universal standard with which to accurately assess an individuals wisdom.
 
How would a wisdon test work exactly? Out of all the 6 basic rpg stats (strength, dexterity, constitution, intelligence, wisdom, and charisma)(nerd! Nerd! Neeeerd!!!) The only one less concrete and more abstract than Wisdom is Charisma. Wisdom would be excessively hard to test the general populace for eapecially since it can be pretty subjective in its application. the quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgment; the quality of being wise. With as difficult and questionably accurate of a reading of a persons' intelligence you can discern from the standard IQ tests (which have been refined by people whose expertise in the field dwarfs mine to a comical degree) it would be nearly impossible to come up with a standardized WQ test that would even come close to setting a widely accepted universal standard with which to accurately assess an individuals wisdom.

test for LOGIC because that is the ability to figure out good from bad.. true and false value and non value.. these cannot be fooled easy...these are the inventors and the predictors .. these are the prophets.. a test similar to the sat math test but with less reading and language

logic can bring the right charisma to fit the situation
 
WRONG it is because of 70 million american young killed by abortion and the increase in gay lifestyle that also does not bring kids....its simply is caused by LIBERALISM

My goodness, what nonsense, nobody is killed by abortion and there always have been gays, now they just don't have to hide themselves. And you are quite wrong, gays are able to raise kids, lesbians are even able to have them. So I am sorry but your points of view are just nonsense. And you can repeat that nonsense until all infinity, it isn't going to change into a valid point because it is bull crap.
 
test for LOGIC because that is the ability to figure out good from bad.. true and false value and non value.. these cannot be fooled easy...these are the inventors and the predictors .. these are the prophets.. a test similar to the sat math test but with less reading and language

logic can bring the right charisma to fit the situation

Well now hold on a minute. First you demand a wisdom test as an eligibility to vote, now it's a LOGIC test. Those two terms are not in any way interchangeable. It's obvious that what you really mean by all your semi-coherent blather is that you want to do whatever it takes so that only people that would vote the way you want should be given the right. What assurance do you have that a wisdom, intelligence, logic, whatever other seemingly arbitrary word you feel like using, would actually skew the vote in your favor? What happens when the US govt. Reads your post and thinks "ah yes, a wisdom...i mean logic test! Only those who score high can vote!" Then those who actually pass this test don't vote the way you want? Keep making arbitrary voting "tests" until you get the result you personally want? That is monstrously arrogant!
 
conservative states will make 2 demands to the liberal states and if not then they will secede...... abortion illegal which will stop the big imbalance of young to old and a wisdom test for voters which will totally stop liberalism to ever rise again.. there is no power with liberals the conservatives are the men and military and law enforcement

Conservative states have no demands to make, they are bound by the constitution of the United States. And if there is a wisdom test for voters than the liberal parties will most likely win every election because normally it is the liberal elites that get the most education.
 
conservative states will make 2 demands to the liberal states and if not then they will secede...... abortion illegal which will stop the big imbalance of young to old and a wisdom test for voters which will totally stop liberalism to ever rise again.. there is no power with liberals the conservatives are the men and military and law enforcement

Is this breaking news or fantasy land? The conservatives will NOT secede from the liberals, as this is not a binary world. Besides, some conservatives already tried to secede from the US and got their asses kicked. In fact, in every way they're STILL getting their asses kicked.

The "young to old" ratio is not caused by abortion, it's caused by the fact that previous generations were reproductively irresponsible and treated women like property, combined with medical advances that keep old people alive longer than they should reasonably expect. If you feel that wisdom is such a consistent product of age and, I assume, conservatism a product of wisdom, how do you explain yourself? Besides, the current dynamic should, if you're not full of crap, create the situation you desire, creating an army of old "wise" men to secede from their female children through violence. It's almost too hilarious to imagine.

The ignorance of claiming that liberals have no power is, first, an utter dismissal of what democracy is and, secondly, it's a perspective that celebrates polarity and violence, two aspects of conservative thought that the world has had to struggle against for every inch of human progress. If you want to live where the conservatives rule the liberals with an iron fist, America is not a good fit for you. I, for one, resist your attempt to make this place into Saudi America. We were founded by enlightenment-inspired liberals and the left continues to drive this nation out of the religious and fiscal dark ages that traditionalists long to return to.

Conservatives will not "win", they will change or die or both, as they have always done, but they will not take back anything because they never had it. The world was always dynamic and the true property of the people, including the young, and history has marked human progress by the intensity of conservative threats and, so it seems, the louder they cry, the better things get for the rest of us.

I see your ignorant rant like I view Islamic extremism, just more incessant complaining from those who discover themselves to be morally, socially and, most of all, intellectually obsolete.
 
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