Look what white guilt has created.

[RealmOfThePureForms]

I find it funny how I'm called a racist when more than half of the people I hang out with are latino. And of either direct mexican decent or born with immigrant parents.

I get the impression most of you aren't from the wast coast.

No, I am from Rhode Island. Home to a massive migration of hispanics. My city 20 years ago was 90% white. Today it is 5% white and 90% hispanic. Want to get a job in my city? Only if you speak spanish. All the signs are in spanish. If you came there, you'd wonder if you were in America with mexican flags flying around and people playing mexican music.

It's not just the southwest. There are pockets in other areas of the country of non-english, non-assimilated, hispanics. I live in the middle of one of those pockets and I have seen first hand what happens when a city goes from all white to all hispanic. (8 years ago our city went bankrupt and the state took over public funding because of all the people on welfare and the lack of tax revenue)

 

[vibeeleven]

Re: I get the impression y'all aren't fromthe west coast.

No, I am from Rhode Island...

Sorry, poor edit. I was referring to the illegal immagration apologists.

 

[RealmOfThePureForms]

Re: I get the impression y'all aren't fromthe west coast.

Sorry, poor edit. I was referring to the illegal immagration apologists.

Oh. I figured you weren't refering people who are against this locust invasion. I just thought I'd show that even though it's mostly in the southwest, there are pockets of this even on the east coast too. It wasn't meant to be directed at you as an insult, just to show you I feel your pain even on the other side of the US.

 

[chesswarsnow]

No, I am from Rhode Island. Home to a massive migration of hispanics. My city 20 years ago was 90% white. Today it is 5% white and 90% hispanic. Want to get a job in my city? Only if you speak spanish. All the signs are in spanish. If you came there, you'd wonder if you were in America with mexican flags flying around and people playing mexican music.

It's not just the southwest. There are pockets in other areas of the country of non-english, non-assimilated, hispanics. I live in the middle of one of those pockets and I have seen first hand what happens when a city goes from all white to all hispanic. (8 years ago our city went bankrupt and the state took over public funding because of all the people on welfare and the lack of tax revenue)

^ A man who knows what I'm talking about!
1. This is the way USA will end up unless we build the wall now!
2. Then take action on all illegals that are here.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[jfuh]

Who said they were going to kill you? Was this person killed? No. What if they just punched you?

And good job with completely avoiding the question because you

a) have no argument
b) are coming from a logically indefensible position, and
c) and inconsistent in your stands.

Lame and pathetic. Now you're changing your premise all together.
You asked me what I would do if I saw a bunch of racists marching down the street ie Neo Nazi's or KKK, I told you I'd get the ***** out of there fearful of getting killed. That's my fear of looser lunatics.
Funny you would be picking on my lack of argument, as you've clearly not been reading the former posts. What argument or stance have you taken? Nothing, have you stayed on topic? No, you've gone off topic only for person ad hominen attacks against me. Lame.
Now just so that you aren't further lost. My argument with respect to the topic has been quite simple. There's no such thing as white guilt and the protesters in LA last week were excercising thier first amendment right. You deny any of those arguments feel free to respond in kind.

 

[jfuh]

Re: I get the impression y'all aren't fromthe west coast.

Sorry, poor edit. I was referring to the illegal immagration apologists.

San Diego, Bay Area and midwest here, your point? Oh and BTW, who's an illegal immigrant apologist here?

 

[RightinNYC]

Lame and pathetic. Now you're changing your premise all together.
You asked me what I would do if I saw a bunch of racists marching down the street ie Neo Nazi's or KKK, I told you I'd get the ***** out of there fearful of getting killed. That's my fear of looser lunatics.
Funny you would be picking on my lack of argument, as you've clearly not been reading the former posts. What argument or stance have you taken? Nothing, have you stayed on topic? No, you've gone off topic only for person ad hominen attacks against me. Lame.
Now just so that you aren't further lost. My argument with respect to the topic has been quite simple. There's no such thing as white guilt and the protesters in LA last week were excercising thier first amendment right. You deny any of those arguments feel free to respond in kind.

You've got to be kidding me.

you said that you didnt believe that illegals were threatening violence.

vibel called you out, and said that he got assaulted because he "voiced his opinion to one of the protestors"

You said he was "asking for it," and "You were provoking so it's no wonder"

He explained that he wasn't provoking, but simply responded to being accosted by a protestor, explaining the convo:

protester: Long live Mexico, long live the Race, Aztlan for life!
response: Long live America
protester: Shut your mouth you ******* gringo
response: why do you have such animosity for a country that you chose to enter and such love for a country that you chose to leave?
protester: *attacks vibel*

You then responded to this by calling it provocation, and said that his opinion (long live america) "stemmed from arrogance and intolerance."

That is bullshit. You're being incredibly disingenuous if you are going to claim that vive america is arrogant and intolerant. And furthermore, your attack on his decision to respond reasonably, verbally, and peacefully to someone yelling something in his face is indicitave of your inherent bias.

Your statement that he "asked for it" implies that the assault was partly his fault, when in reality it was 100% the attackers fault. If a liberal walked by a Bush rally, someone screamed "LIBERALS ARE ******S," the liberal responded with "I don't think thats a fair statement," and the Bush supporter attacked the liberal, would your opinion still be "he asked for it?"

No.

 

[jfuh]

You've got to be kidding me.

you said that you didnt believe that illegals were threatening violence.

vibel called you out, and said that he got assaulted because he "voiced his opinion to one of the protestors"

You said he was "asking for it," and "You were provoking so it's no wonder"

He explained that he wasn't provoking, but simply responded to being accosted by a protestor, explaining the convo:

protester: Long live Mexico, long live the Race, Aztlan for life!
response: Long live America
protester: Shut your mouth you ******* gringo
response: why do you have such animosity for a country that you chose to enter and such love for a country that you chose to leave?
protester: *attacks vibel*

You then responded to this by calling it provocation, and said that his opinion (long live america) "stemmed from arrogance and intolerance."

It's not surprising that you can not make a post in response to me without :spin:my argument and editing together bits and pieces here and there.

That is bullshit. You're being incredibly disingenuous if you are going to claim that vive america is arrogant and intolerant. And furthermore, your attack on his decision to respond reasonably, verbally, and peacefully to someone yelling something in his face is indicitave of your inherent bias.

Well same to you as well right, you're being incredibly disingenuous for having to resort to editing my statment and putting bits and pieces together to make it sound as if I said something else.

Your statement that he "asked for it" implies that the assault was partly his fault, when in reality it was 100% the attackers fault. If a liberal walked by a Bush rally, someone screamed "LIBERALS ARE ******S," the liberal responded with "I don't think thats a fair statement," and the Bush supporter attacked the liberal, would your opinion still be "he asked for it?"

No.

wow, another analogy, good thing is this one is much closer to the instance that happend. But hadn't anyone ever taught you never to assume. Also it's noteworthy that you have to stick in "liberal and conservative in there" or Bush supporter. in order to make a point, that, is inaccurate. My statment would be yes, if the liberalist walked by and heard the nut heads yelling liberals are ******s and the idiot yelled the same back, he was indeed asking to be beatten.

:fyi:, Snoop is a hard core liberal that hates Bush with a passion.

 

[RightinNYC]

It's not surprising that you can not make a post in response to me without :spin:my argument and editing together bits and pieces here and there.

Well same to you as well right, you're being incredibly disingenuous for having to resort to editing my statment and putting bits and pieces together to make it sound as if I said something else.

"editing" your statement? Those are quotes directly from you, chief. If you don't want to stand by what you said, I completely understand. It wasn't supportable in the first place.

wow, another analogy, good thing is this one is much closer to the instance that happend. But hadn't anyone ever taught you never to assume. Also it's noteworthy that you have to stick in "liberal and conservative in there" or Bush supporter. in order to make a point, that, is inaccurate. My statment would be yes, if the liberalist walked by and heard the nut heads yelling liberals are ******s and the idiot yelled the same back, he was indeed asking to be beatten.

Then i guess you just don't have the same concept of personal responsibility that I do. I would hold the bush supporter who did the attacking or the mexican equally and wholly culpable for their actions.

It's of course begging the question, but I'm assuming that if a girl put on a short skirt and high heels, got drunk, kissed a guy, went back to his place, and then told him she didn't want to have sex, but was forced anyways, you'd call that rape, correct? Or was she "asking for it" too?

:fyi:, Snoop is a hard core liberal that hates Bush with a passion.

Yes, and your point is...?

FYI, your frog voted for Bush in 2004 and Buchanan in 2000.:lol:

 

[Calm2Chaos]

Well they were protesting today in philly and screwed up my coomute... So screw em.. I hate it when they tangle the streets. :lol:

 

[jfuh]

"editing" your statement? Those are quotes directly from you, chief. If you don't want to stand by what you said, I completely understand. It wasn't supportable in the first place.

YEs those are direct quotes from me and I stand by them. However you have edited out the former or later portions of the post as well as taking them out of context.

Then i guess you just don't have the same concept of personal responsibility that I do. I would hold the bush supporter who did the attacking or the mexican equally and wholly culpable for their actions.

Have I ever said that the assaulter was then innocent of the act s/he commited? No. I've stated that the person who made the comment to provoke was asking for it.

It's of course begging the question, but I'm assuming that if a girl put on a short skirt and high heels, got drunk, kissed a guy, went back to his place, and then told him she didn't want to have sex, but was forced anyways, you'd call that rape, correct? Or was she "asking for it" too?

This is not begging the question this is a completely wronged analogy all together to the situation here.
That's of course rape, she made clear she did not wish for the act to proceed. Having sex is hardly in anyway similar to a sudden outburst of rage expressed by a single opinion.

Yes, and your point is...?

Just find it ironic that you would use the image of someone that is hardly representative of your ideology as your avatar, which is supposed to be representative. WHatever floats your boat though.

 

[-Demosthenes-]

You can try and label me what you will. That is all you know how to do. Your racist friends in the southwest say they want to kill white America and all you can do when someone makes an attack on those fanatics is call them a racist?

Let's look at it, What you said:

Enjoy the future, and the future your children will have under [H]ispanic rule. Lets see if they treat you half as decent as your white guilt has treated them.

I said:

Your point: If Hispanics out number whites they will "rule" us.

Your implied premise: Whoever is the majority race "rules" the others.

Your implied points: Whites currently "rule" blacks, Latinos, and all other minorities.

You're implied goal: White Supremacy.

If our children "live under Hispanic rule" as you say because of a Hispanic majority, then you are implying that white, by virtue of their majority, are ruling the other races at the present.

You are defending white supremacy.