• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every persons position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

London Terrorist was on Prison Release when he Killed Fellow Attendees at 'Justice' Forum

truthatallcost

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 1, 2014
Messages
26,720
Reaction score
6,277
Location
California
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
Usman Khan (no relation to London Mayor Khan?) went on a stabbing spree in London, after he'd already been convicted for plotting to blow up the American Embassy, and another building in 2012. Reports are suggesting that Khan (no relationship with Mayor Khan) was attending a conference at the esteemed Cambridge University about prisoner rehabilitation, and had delivered a speech earlier in the day about his rehabilitation process in prison. Khan then displayed his true animalistic, terrorist
nature, by hacking two men to death with large knives he'd managed to conceal, proving that rehabilitation for Islamic terrorists can only come by way of bullets & death.

 

Mach

DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 13, 2006
Messages
20,388
Reaction score
11,954
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
You're making a fairly generalized call to violence:

proving that rehabilitation for Islamic terrorists can only come by way of bullets & death.
I don't approve. And the idea that an example = proof, is super-stupid.
 

truthatallcost

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 1, 2014
Messages
26,720
Reaction score
6,277
Location
California
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
You're making a fairly generalized call to violence:



I don't approve. And the idea that an example = proof, is super-stupid.
It's not a call to violence. Just an observation.

Do you know who Lee Rigby was? He was murdered in broad daylight by two Nigerian Muslims, who'd been arrested less than a year prior for trying to fight for Al-Shabab.

Murder of Lee Rigby - Wikipedia

They beheaded him, after running him over with a car.
 

ThirdTerm

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 20, 2012
Messages
686
Reaction score
160
Location
Trumplandia
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Britain still owns the Chagos Islands which have been leased to the United States until 2036. The CIA built an interrogation centre on the island. The best solution for convicted terrorists is shipping them out to remote islands, where they cannot harm innocent civilians.

 

Infinite Chaos

DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 28, 2007
Messages
18,504
Reaction score
8,591
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
~ (no relation to London Mayor Khan?) ~ (no relationship with Mayor Khan) ~
The same mayor you are trying to smear also called for indeterminate sentences to be brought back and he also called for recognition of the ordinary unarmed citizens who tackled the terrorist and brought him down.
Doesn't help your cause to recognise that though does it?
 

marke

Supporting Member
Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 3, 2018
Messages
34,752
Reaction score
3,960
Location
north carolina
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Usman Khan (no relation to London Mayor Khan?) went on a stabbing spree in London, after he'd already been convicted for plotting to blow up the American Embassy, and another building in 2012. Reports are suggesting that Khan (no relationship with Mayor Khan) was attending a conference at the esteemed Cambridge University about prisoner rehabilitation, and had delivered a speech earlier in the day about his rehabilitation process in prison. Khan then displayed his true animalistic, terrorist
nature, by hacking two men to death with large knives he'd managed to conceal, proving that rehabilitation for Islamic terrorists can only come by way of bullets & death.

You can take the Muslim terrorist out of the Middle Eastern Muslim hellhole where he was bred but you cannot take the Muslim hatred for others out of the Muslim terrorist.
 

TheParser

DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 12, 2018
Messages
5,380
Reaction score
1,991
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Moderate
My deepest sympathies to the families of the two murdered victims of that individual.

I know nothing about British politics, but I am guessing that maybe this latest terrorist act may help the Conservatives and Brexit supporters in the upcoming British election.

Best wishes to the British people, whose country has been undergoing some unpleasant changes since the 1950s.
 

Alfons

DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 13, 2008
Messages
3,300
Reaction score
242
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
Europa is finished, its 'elites' are hardly working on replacement of white christian man by colored muslim one.If somebody is against he/she can be murdered by Antifa or thrown behind bar charged for 'hate crime'
 

Mach

DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 13, 2006
Messages
20,388
Reaction score
11,954
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
It's not a call to violence. Just an observation.
.
vs
proving that rehabilitation for Islamic terrorists can only come by way of bullets & death.
You're calling for violence, towards a generalized group. Deplorable post is deplorable.
 

Chagos

DP Veteran
Joined
Mar 8, 2015
Messages
26,308
Reaction score
6,720
Location
in expatria
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Private
What is becoming of the character "you can't make this crap up" is the BBC reporting that the perp was actually visiting a prisoners' rehabilitation conference. That is of itself bad enough, where satire strikes though is that those tackling him were fellow conference visitors, in various stages of parole or even still serving, with the guy who wrestled the knife from this scum most of all being a convicted murderer.

If that all turns out to be true (and not at all to belittle the general spirit of it all), the abundant praise of "the upright Londoners" having shown such civic spirit does kinda leave even more egg on face than is already there.
 

Sweden

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 15, 2016
Messages
5,314
Reaction score
2,184
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Right
You can take the Muslim terrorist out of the Middle Eastern Muslim hellhole where he was bred but you cannot take the Muslim hatred for others out of the Muslim terrorist.
Like the great majority of Muslims in the UK Usman Khan was of Pakistani muslim - not Middle East (more properly Near East) - descent.
 

Sweden

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 15, 2016
Messages
5,314
Reaction score
2,184
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Right
What is becoming of the character "you can't make this crap up" is the BBC reporting that the perp was actually visiting a prisoners' rehabilitation conference. That is of itself bad enough, where satire strikes though is that those tackling him were fellow conference visitors, in various stages of parole or even still serving, with the guy who wrestled the knife from this scum most of all being a convicted murderer.

If that all turns out to be true (and not at all to belittle the general spirit of it all), the abundant praise of "the upright Londoners" having shown such civic spirit does kinda leave even more egg on face than is already there.
The murdered man (we do not yet know the identity of the woman) was one of the conference organisers, a 25 year old Cambridge post grad student.

It is reported that Khan was being paid to attend or that. at least, his expenses were being covered.
 

Chagos

DP Veteran
Joined
Mar 8, 2015
Messages
26,308
Reaction score
6,720
Location
in expatria
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Private
The murdered man (we do not yet know the identity of the woman) was one of the conference organisers, a 25 year old Cambridge post grad student.

It is reported that Khan was being paid to attend or that. at least, his expenses were being covered.
Yes, terrible.

Both wrt the victims and wrt to this scum being allowed to walk around unmonitored like that.

Not to mention, regarding the latter issue, the questions that will have to be answered over why the law was changed to scrap indeterminate detention (IPPs).
 

zyzygy

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 6, 2014
Messages
43,901
Reaction score
8,664
Location
Flanders.
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
The same mayor you are trying to smear also called for indeterminate sentences to be brought back and he also called for recognition of the ordinary unarmed citizens who tackled the terrorist and brought him down.
Doesn't help your cause to recognise that though does it?
John Wilkes Booth was no relation to William Booth (founder of the Salvation Army)
 

zyzygy

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 6, 2014
Messages
43,901
Reaction score
8,664
Location
Flanders.
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
Europa is finished, its 'elites' are hardly working on replacement of white christian man by colored muslim one.If somebody is against he/she can be murdered by Antifa or thrown behind bar charged for 'hate crime'
Nope. When were you last in Europe?
 

Manc Skipper

Wrinkly member
DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 25, 2008
Messages
32,742
Reaction score
21,598
Location
Southern England
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
The murdered man (we do not yet know the identity of the woman) was one of the conference organisers, a 25 year old Cambridge post grad student.

It is reported that Khan was being paid to attend or that. at least, his expenses were being covered.
He was a speaker there. He probably knew the victims as he attended the University as part of his rehabilitation. Maybe they upset him in some way.
 

Manc Skipper

Wrinkly member
DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 25, 2008
Messages
32,742
Reaction score
21,598
Location
Southern England
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
Yes, terrible.

Both wrt the victims and wrt to this scum being allowed to walk around unmonitored like that.

Not to mention, regarding the latter issue, the questions that will have to be answered over why the law was changed to scrap indeterminate detention (IPPs).
He wasn't unmonitored, he was wearing an electronic tag, and would have been subject to regular checks for the year he'd been free on licence. Assuming that the massive cuts in staff and funding by the conservative government hadn't taken their toll in the probation services as well as the police and criminal justice system.
 

Chagos

DP Veteran
Joined
Mar 8, 2015
Messages
26,308
Reaction score
6,720
Location
in expatria
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Private
He wasn't unmonitored, he was wearing an electronic tag, and would have been subject to regular checks for the year he'd been free on licence. Assuming that the massive cuts in staff and funding by the conservative government hadn't taken their toll in the probation services as well as the police and criminal justice system.
He wasn't unmonitored
fat load of good that tag did, eh?

So he might as well be called what I called him.
 

Manc Skipper

Wrinkly member
DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 25, 2008
Messages
32,742
Reaction score
21,598
Location
Southern England
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
fat load of good that tag did, eh?

So he might as well be called what I called him.
He'd been out since last December. I think there are more personal details still to be discovered as to why he kicked off yesterday, and not before.
 

Apocalypse

DEATH TO ANTARCTICA!!!
DP Veteran
Joined
May 14, 2009
Messages
19,755
Reaction score
6,217
Location
Israel
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Centrist
What is becoming of the character "you can't make this crap up" is the BBC reporting that the perp was actually visiting a prisoners' rehabilitation conference. That is of itself bad enough, where satire strikes though is that those tackling him were fellow conference visitors, in various stages of parole or even still serving, with the guy who wrestled the knife from this scum most of all being a convicted murderer.

If that all turns out to be true (and not at all to belittle the general spirit of it all), the abundant praise of "the upright Londoners" having shown such civic spirit does kinda leave even more egg on face than is already there.
They're probably going to make a film about this.
 

SkyChief

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 3, 2019
Messages
742
Reaction score
375
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian
Maybe it's time for for London Mayor Sadiq Khan to propose sensible knife-control measures in London.

Knife-control policy might have prevented the London Bridge slayings.

Maybe a 30-day waiting period for purchasing knives?

A No-Carry policy unless you're a chef - only Chefs should be allowed to carry knives.
 

Sven Karma

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 6, 2017
Messages
1,156
Reaction score
579
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
Yes, terrible.

Both wrt the victims and wrt to this scum being allowed to walk around unmonitored like that.

Not to mention, regarding the latter issue, the questions that will have to be answered over why the law was changed to scrap indeterminate detention (IPPs).
There's a recent channel4 series about prisons & prisoners which featured various (non-terrorist) muppets still in jail on IPPs. The legislation was changed because of grave defects, which David Blunkett in an interview had to acknowledge. But I don't remember the exact details.
 

Chagos

DP Veteran
Joined
Mar 8, 2015
Messages
26,308
Reaction score
6,720
Location
in expatria
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Private
They're probably going to make a film about this.
Well, I hope the character playing the (other) murderer doesn't get to say the line "haven't had this much fun since the last gang rape.":lol:
 

Chagos

DP Veteran
Joined
Mar 8, 2015
Messages
26,308
Reaction score
6,720
Location
in expatria
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Private
He'd been out since last December. I think there are more personal details still to be discovered as to why he kicked off yesterday, and not before.
I'm questioning the whole process.

Namely, why was he out at all, why could his appeal succeed (in original sentence being reduced from 18 to 16 years) and why was he out after having served half?

I know that the IPPs were squashed but there are other means of keeping a rabid dog out of the public than shooting him (something I wouldn't support anyway).

Yeah, much to be investigated and much to be answered.

Both camps are going to have a field day with this in election time, taking turn in apportioning blame to the other. In fact it's already starting.
 
Top Bottom