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LOL !!: This isn’t a recession – it’s a ‘war-cession,’ top strategist says

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This isn’t a recession – it’s a ‘war-cession,’ top strategist says. Here’s why it’s different
LONDON — The global economy is likely entering a “war-cession,” according to veteran investment strategist David Roche, and markets are underestimating its duration.

It comes as markets attempt to navigate a flurry of concurrent economic hurdles, including Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, soaring inflation, rising interest rates and supply disruption from China’s efforts to contain a Covid-19 outbreak.

Speaking to CNBC’s “Squawk Box Europe” on Friday, Roche, president of Independent Strategy, suggested that evidence of atrocities committed against civilians in Ukraine by Russian forces will prevent any possibility of a swift peace negotiation with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

As such, the West’s only option is to seek regime change in Russia, he said, given that Putin cannot be seen domestically to withdraw from Ukraine without a “victory.”

This is a twofer:

1) Mouth pieces and talking heads are trying to get ahead of the coming recession and blame anyone other than Democrats and Joe Biden.

2) The term "Regime Change" has now been released into the wild. That means it's already been decided by the puppet masters.
 
there is no way that COVID, supply problems and war in Europe can affect us.
 
Actually, that's title guy. The text actually says:

LONDON — The global economy is likely entering a “war-cession,” according to veteran investment strategist David Roche, and markets are underestimating its duration. It comes as markets attempt to navigate a flurry of concurrent economic hurdles, including Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, soaring inflation, rising interest rates and supply disruption from China’s efforts to contain a Covid-19 outbreak.
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“[Putin] is not going to trade withdrawal for any ratcheting down of sanctions, so the sanctions stay in place and I think the implications for Europe are that you will see recession, because the sanctions will actually increase and move towards a total energy blockade,” Roche said. . .“This is an enormous supply-side shock that will continue in food, in energy, in metals and I can go on. That will go on while at the same time, we’re dealing with inflation worldwide, we’re dealing with rising interest rates – I think the 30-year [Treasury yield] will be at least 3.5% in a year’s time – and we’re looking at, of course, supply disruptions in China due to what is happening on Covid, which people are not talking about, but which are obviously another supply side to the global system,” he said.






You might as well link to the dumbass propaganda site you got your gripe from, @VySky, because it baffles me what could possibly be confusing or outraging to you that someone called a possible recession caused by a war a "war-cession" instead of a "recession caused by a war."

It's a strange thing for a Trumpist, the people who loved "**** your feelings!" and posting this picture a lot, to do:

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Is it that you simply do not understand how the war and resulting sanctions will have all sorts of negative economic effects? I suppose that is possible...
 
Mouth pieces and talking heads are trying to get ahead of the coming recession and blame anyone other than Democrats and Joe Biden.
Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 431,000 in March, and the unemployment rate declined to 3.6 percent.

Sounds to me like Republicans are just saying recession a lot in the hopes they can convince people one is coming.
 
Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 431,000 in March, and the unemployment rate declined to 3.6 percent.

Sounds to me like Republicans are just saying recession a lot in the hopes they can convince people one is coming.

Republicans? LOL

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CNN: Recession risks are ‘uncomfortably high and moving higher,’ Mark Zandi says

Here's the Treasury Secretary trying to get ahead of the story:
Janet Yellen warns of ‘enormous’ economic repercussions from war in Ukraine
 
1) Mouth pieces and talking heads are trying to get ahead of the coming recession and blame anyone other than Democrats and Joe Biden.

Biden didn't invade Ukraine. Your pal Putin did that dirty deed.

2) The term "Regime Change" has now been released into the wild. That means it's already been decided by the puppet masters.

Yep. Russia should have regime change. Who isn't sick of their war crimes and poisonings?
 
At any given moment in time, you can find some economists who believe a crash is coming, but the fact of the matter is we have 3.6% unemployment which is ridiculously good. We have so many ****ing jobs available in this country we don't even know what to do with them.
A recession requires six consecutive months of economic decline. We haven't even had one, and that's despite high gas prices and a War.
431k new jobs last month in the middle of record-high gas prices tells me that businesses are hiring like crazy, and that's not likely to change soon.
 
Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 431,000 in March, and the unemployment rate declined to 3.6 percent.

Sounds to me like Republicans are just saying recession a lot in the hopes they can convince people one is coming.

Meanwhile, the cost of groceries and gas had been increasing long before the war began.

Inflation had been a major factor many months before your nonsense excuse.

Sounds to me like partisan hack bullshit.
 
At any given moment in time, you can find some economists who believe a crash is coming, but the fact of the matter is we have 3.6% unemployment which is ridiculously good. We have so many ****ing jobs available in this country we don't even know what to do with them.
A recession requires six consecutive months of economic decline. We haven't even had one, and that's despite high gas prices and a War.
431k new jobs last month in the middle of record-high gas prices tells me that businesses are hiring like crazy, and that's not likely to change soon.

Janet Yellen isn't "some economist".

Your desperation smells.
 
Meanwhile, the cost of groceries and gas had been increasing long before the war began.

Inflation had been a major factor many months before your nonsense excuse.
Right, because we have way, way, way more jobs available than we have people to do them. While that does suck in the short term, that is generally a sign of an incredibly strong economy that will continue to grow.

In fact, I'd predict that Biden bringing an end to Trump's bullshit anti-immigration crap is likely to help a lot. Check out almost any meatpacking plant in the country and you'll find that they rely very heavily on immigrant labor. So does a lot of farming.
The hardline against immigration over the course of the pandemic has almost certainly been a large factor in those high grocery prices.
 
Right, because we have way, way, way more jobs available than we have people to do them. While that does suck in the short term, that is generally a sign of an incredibly strong economy that will continue to grow.

In fact, I'd predict that Biden bringing an end to Trump's bullshit anti-immigration crap is likely to help a lot. Check out almost any meatpacking plant in the country and you'll find that they rely very heavily on immigrant labor. So does a lot of farming.
The hardline against immigration over the course of the pandemic has almost certainly been a large factor in those high grocery prices.

My god.......you are something else.

The numbers reflect whatever leftist bullshit you want to hear.
 
My god.......you are something else.

The numbers reflect whatever leftist bullshit you want to hear.
Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 431,000 in March, and the unemployment rate declined to 3.6 percent.
Those are facts, not a prediction, and they are very good facts that should give anyone who actually loves America reason to be happy about the future.
 
Janet Yellen isn't "some economist".
So now you like her and think she knows the future?

As she said the fallout from the war in Ukraine could be bad. That supports the supposition that the economy itself is very strong, but a war could hurt it. That war is very clearly Putin's fault, not Joe Biden's.

Also, please quote where in your article about Janet Yellen she predicts a recession. She didn't. She said it would have serious economic impacts, but not recession.
 
So now you like her and think she knows the future?

As she said the fallout from the war in Ukraine could be bad. That supports the supposition that the economy itself is very strong, but a war could hurt it. That war is very clearly Putin's fault, not Joe Biden's.

I neither like her nor believe she knows the future. But she does know economics, sees a recession on the horizon, and is planting the seed of blame like a good little toady.
 
Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 431,000 in March, and the unemployment rate declined to 3.6 percent.

Sounds to me like Republicans are just saying recession a lot in the hopes they can convince people one is coming.
There is a recession coming. Bet the farm on it. The important question to answer is when.
 
Grasping for straws eh because there is really very little for conservatives to post about thus it time
misconstrue and lie a bit and simply throw some words around though they say nothing.

Having said all of that with the housing market sooooooooo inflated beyond reality I can see the market reverting to where it should be which would seem like a crash.......also a great time to buy.

meanwhile...

NOUN​

Recession
  • A period of temporary economic decline during which trade and industrial activity are reduced, generally identified by a fall in GDP in two successive quarters.

 
Having said all of that with the housing market sooooooooo inflated beyond reality I can see the market reverting to where it should be which would seem like a crash.......also a great time to buy.
What makes you say that? What I'm seeing in the housing market is that a lot of Millenials who under normal circumstances couldn't afford to buy homes were able to use a break in their student loan payments and a number of stimulus payments to finally piece together the down payment they needed.
I absolutely think the housing market will cool off a bit, but barring something that puts all those Millenials into dire straits unable to make their mortgage payments I doubt there will be a crash.
 
What makes you say that? What I'm seeing in the housing market is that a lot of Millenials who under normal circumstances couldn't afford to buy homes were able to use a break in their student loan payments and a number of stimulus payments to finally piece together the down payment they needed.
I absolutely think the housing market will cool off a bit, but barring something that puts all those Millenials into dire straits unable to make their mortgage payments I doubt there will be a crash.

Righties are rooting for a recession just to make President Biden look bad. Because unemployment is so low right now, this means they also need to root for a sudden increase in unemployment.
 
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