The LCS in its current form is under armed and under armored.I subscribe to every Aerospace/Military mag there is. Actually I do not but as an emeritus my previous employer makes sure I get them in the mail.
I remember a great deal of wailing and gnashing of the teeth regarding the US Navy's need for the Littoral ships they wanted.
But before you read further it may be best to read this article:
(really.. please read this first)
https://www.quora.com/Which-country...of-military-strength-within-the-next-50-years
Now here is the key point from Holts article:
"Many analysts believe that China has developed sophisticated anti-access/area denial strategies (A2/AD) intended to prevent the U.S. Navy and other forces from operating close to China’s territorial waters Using a wide variety of approaches, from threat of long-range precision strike to mine warfare systems, China hopes to limit American freedom of action in the littorals and perhaps beyond the second island chain. If Chinese efforts are successful, American joint and combined military forces may not reach their full combat potential or incur great losses for trying."
So China knows they cannot battle us at sea therefore they have resorted to sea surface denial. In other words they want to mine the entire South China Sea with high tech pop-up mines and what not. Thus is the reason for building their sand islands. That is what they are for. Denial of access.
So one more time it is not like the Pentagon is full of stupids. I hate that description. They are so far ahead of what we know it would embarrass you to sit down and discuss your pet peeves with them.
So now to the heart of it all.
Littoral ships and why we need them
Start here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1PXcT0qOO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLKDgtqjGLU
The Pentagon began this development LONG before China stated building their islands.
It is a very very necessary weapon in our shift to the west.
OK
Hope is got you to thinking
The LCS in its current form is under armed and under armored.
The navy has cut back on the order for the two types of LCS drastically for a reason, they are not very good. The proposed redesigns will probably fix most of the issues
The LCS in its current form is under armed and under armored.
The navy has cut back on the order for the two types of LCS drastically for a reason, they are not very good. The proposed redesigns will probably fix most of the issues
The Saudi's will buy as mostly part of a diplomacy act rather then the overall quality of the design (which will be changed for the Saudi's. Israel I believe has passed on it due to high cost. Western European countries all have their own designs, and the Swedish Visby Corvette from what I understand is a superior ship for the role of littoral combat. I do not know how stealthy it is in comparison
LCS: The USA?s Littoral Combat Ships
Janes has a new Article on the LCSs now called frigates.The Saudi's will buy as mostly part of a diplomacy act rather then the overall quality of the design (which will be changed for the Saudi's. Israel I believe has passed on it due to high cost. Western European countries all have their own designs, and the Swedish Visby Corvette from what I understand is a superior ship for the role of littoral combat. I do not know how stealthy it is in comparison
LCS: The USA?s Littoral Combat Ships
I subscribe to every Aerospace/Military mag there is. Actually I do not but as an emeritus my previous employer makes sure I get them in the mail.
I remember a great deal of wailing and gnashing of the teeth regarding the US Navy's need for the Littoral ships they wanted.
But before you read further it may be best to read this article:
(really.. please read this first)
https://www.quora.com/Which-country...of-military-strength-within-the-next-50-years
Now here is the key point from Holts article:
"Many analysts believe that China has developed sophisticated anti-access/area denial strategies (A2/AD) intended to prevent the U.S. Navy and other forces from operating close to China’s territorial waters Using a wide variety of approaches, from threat of long-range precision strike to mine warfare systems, China hopes to limit American freedom of action in the littorals and perhaps beyond the second island chain. If Chinese efforts are successful, American joint and combined military forces may not reach their full combat potential or incur great losses for trying."
So China knows they cannot battle us at sea therefore they have resorted to sea surface denial. In other words they want to mine the entire South China Sea with high tech pop-up mines and what not. Thus is the reason for building their sand islands. That is what they are for. Denial of access.
So one more time it is not like the Pentagon is full of stupids. I hate that description. They are so far ahead of what we know it would embarrass you to sit down and discuss your pet peeves with them.
So now to the heart of it all.
Littoral ships and why we need them
Start here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1PXcT0qOO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLKDgtqjGLU
The Pentagon began this development LONG before China stated building their islands.
It is a very very necessary weapon in our shift to the west.
OK
Hope is got you to thinking
what i will say about the LCS program is that i wish they were more heavily armed. i know they're modular. i know they're designed to expand capability with new armaments in development. but, the fact is, they're more expensive and far less capable than the Perry class frigate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Hazard_Perry-class_frigate
I subscribe to every Aerospace/Military mag there is. Actually I do not but as an emeritus my previous employer makes sure I get them in the mail.
I remember a great deal of wailing and gnashing of the teeth regarding the US Navy's need for the Littoral ships they wanted.
But before you read further it may be best to read this article:
(really.. please read this first)
https://www.quora.com/Which-country...of-military-strength-within-the-next-50-years
Now here is the key point from Holts article:
"Many analysts believe that China has developed sophisticated anti-access/area denial strategies (A2/AD) intended to prevent the U.S. Navy and other forces from operating close to China’s territorial waters Using a wide variety of approaches, from threat of long-range precision strike to mine warfare systems, China hopes to limit American freedom of action in the littorals and perhaps beyond the second island chain. If Chinese efforts are successful, American joint and combined military forces may not reach their full combat potential or incur great losses for trying."
So China knows they cannot battle us at sea therefore they have resorted to sea surface denial. In other words they want to mine the entire South China Sea with high tech pop-up mines and what not. Thus is the reason for building their sand islands. That is what they are for. Denial of access.
So one more time it is not like the Pentagon is full of stupids. I hate that description. They are so far ahead of what we know it would embarrass you to sit down and discuss your pet peeves with them.
So now to the heart of it all.
Littoral ships and why we need them
Start here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1PXcT0qOO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLKDgtqjGLU
The Pentagon began this development LONG before China stated building their islands.
It is a very very necessary weapon in our shift to the west.
OK
Hope is got you to thinking
It seems to me that a key factor in area denial is not the LCS per se, but the fact that massively expensive systems can increasingly be countered and possibly defeated by extremely cheap (by historical standards) weapon systems. The US spends a half billion on a ship, and it is targeted by ballistic missiles, smart mines, UUVs, and mass produced cruise missiles. There is an imbalance here to truly cause strategists to feel that they are being denied.
China is hammering out these things, for use in littoral waters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_056_corvette
They have already built 30+ and the final tally is estimated to be around 80 vessels
They are more heavily armed and operate under the umbrella of the Chinese airforce and land based missile forces. The Chinese can also draw on their fleet of over 100 missile boats.
The LCS is hopelessly outgunned and outnumbered ultimately.
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