Little Girls (1 Viewer)

[talloulou]

Today we did some back to school new clothes shopping. Buying for my 7 year old son was a breeze. Buying for my 6 year old daughter was a nightmare. It seems like the problem gets worse every year. Trying to find cute little girl clothes without obnoxious "sayings" on them is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Last year we finally lucked out at Children's Place but this year that store has gone the way of all the others and most of their clothes have "princess" or "royalty" stamped on them! They even had a halloween tee that featured a little girl dressed as a cat with the words, "I like expensive treats! Good grief.

JCPenney was the worst with everything made for little girls saying something about being too cute, too cool, you can't be me so don't even try, I'm a princess, ect ect. What the hell is going on and who is buying this shite? I refuse to send my 6 year old to school with "juicy" or "kitten" smacked across her arse in blazing letters. Who the phuck does? And the attitude displayed on some of the tee shirts goes from annoying with all the princess crap to downright offensive! "Just 'cause I'm pretty doesn't make me nice." "Queen." Sweatshirts that say, "Go Away!"

Why do the clothes got to have suggestive sayings, snotty sayings, ridiculous sayings, ect... Why do they got to say anything?

I'm certainly not trying to raise an obnoxious little brat why the hell would I want to dress her like one?

Anyone else got this problem or am I hypersensitive??? I for one can't wait for the "talking clothes" to go out of style.

 

[Loki]

I'm an elementary teacher. What children are wearing should be a concern for all of us. Some of the stuff I'm seeing is starting to get kinda creepy.

 

[talloulou]

I'm an elementary teacher. What children are wearing should be a concern for all of us. Some of the stuff I'm seeing is starting to get kinda creepy.

It is creepy. Very disturbing. I use to blame the parents who bought the stuff but I am telling you I went from store to store today and it's everywhere. You have to work really hard to find a wardrobe minus the obnoxious sayings. It's so depressing. I've already sent letters to two stores complaining. I sent letters out last year as well. I'm not sure it does any good. But I'll go to my grave before I send my 6 year old out of the house with "drama queen" or "cute but cruel" stamped across her top. :rofl I think schools should start banning clothes that "talk."

 

[FallingPianos]

do children need to try on clothing to see if they fits? if not, you could always just buy the clothes without her being there.

 

[FallingPianos]

It is creepy. Very disturbing. I use to blame the parents who bought the stuff but I am telling you I went from store to store today and it's everywhere. You have to work really hard to find a wardrobe minus the obnoxious sayings. It's so depressing. I've already sent letters to two stores complaining. I sent letters out last year as well. I'm not sure it does any good. But I'll go to my grave before I send my 6 year old out of the house with "drama queen" or "cute but cruel" stamped across her top. :rofl I think schools should start banning clothes that "talk."

I've never had trouble finding clothing for myself without words on them, even in the *shudder* juniors section. that just seems really weird to me.

 

[Loki]

It is creepy. Very disturbing. I use to blame the parents who bought the stuff but I am telling you I went from store to store today and it's everywhere. You have to work really hard to find a wardrobe minus the obnoxious sayings. It's so depressing. I've already sent letters to two stores complaining. I sent letters out last year as well. I'm not sure it does any good. But I'll go to my grave before I send my 6 year old out of the house with "drama queen" or "cute but cruel" stamped across her top. :rofl I think schools should start banning clothes that "talk."

I'll have to agree. I don't like "clothes that talk" either.

 

[talloulou]

I've never had trouble finding clothing for myself without words on them, even in the *shudder* juniors section. that just seems really weird to me.

Well take a stroll through the children's dept. You'll be amazed. As far as needing her with me to shop...no she doesn't need to be with me I know her size. However I like her to feel like she is able to pick some stuff out herself. And pants pose a problem as "hip huggers" and 6 year old don't go well together. They aren't really made for playing and it's almost impossible to tell if her butt is going to hang out without having her try the pants on. Belts help alot but you really need to try pants on to see if they are "play" worthy.

 

[FallingPianos]

Well take a stroll through the children's dept. You'll be amazed. As far as needing her with me to shop...no she doesn't need to be with me I know her size. However I like her to feel like she is able to pick some stuff out herself. And pants pose a problem as "hip huggers" and 6 year old don't go well together. They aren't really made for playing and it's almost impossible to tell if her butt is going to hang out without having her try the pants on. Belts help alot but you really need to try pants on to see if they are "play" worthy.

I Hate hip huggers.

I personally just dont see why she should be allowed to come for the sake of expressing herself if all she wants to say is "open 24 hours."

 

[talloulou]

I Hate hip huggers.

I personally just dont see why she should be allowed to come for the sake of expressing herself if all she wants to say is "open 24 hours."

My daughter isn't attracted to the obnoxious clothes. What I'm saying is it's getting all but impossible to find nice, affordable, appropriate clothes and why should that be? If you put a horse, butterfly, or whatever on a tee shirt my daughter will like it.....without any obnoxious saying. The problem is retailers seem to not be able to help themselves and for some crazy reason obnoxious sayings are stamped on to all most everything. Go visit JC penney, Target, or some other retailer. Check out the clothes for little girls and get back to me. You'll see immediately what I am talking about. The problem isn't my daughter...it's the marketing in the stores!

 

[FallingPianos]

My daughter isn't attracted to the obnoxious clothes. What I'm saying is it's getting all but impossible to find nice, affordable, appropriate clothes and why should that be? If you put a horse, butterfly, or whatever on a tee shirt my daughter will like it.....without any obnoxious saying. The problem is retailers seem to not be able to help themselves and for some crazy reason obnoxious sayings are stamped on to all most everything. Go visit JC penney, Target, or some other retailer. Check out the clothes for little girls and get back to me. You'll see immediately what I am talking about. The problem isn't my daughter...it's the marketing in the stores!

I just looked through 64 "shirts and polos" at target. none of them had words.
5 out of 57 t-shirts had words
1 out of 53 tanks and cami's had words
none of 18 sweaters had words
etc etc etc...

maybe you're looking in the wrong places?

 

[Gardener]

maybe you're looking in the wrong places?

Could it be regional marketing trends?

I don't shop for girls clothes, but I do have a 6 year old boy, and although there was one girl in his kindergaten class who dressed such as T described, none of the other girls did.

thank goodness.

 

[talloulou]

I just looked through 64 "shirts and polos" at target. none of them had words.
5 out of 57 t-shirts had words
1 out of 53 tanks and cami's had words
none of 18 sweaters had words
etc etc etc...

maybe you're looking in the wrong places?

Star I did go to targets onlilne store and I did notice that the stuff offered there is alot different from whats in the store here in Lacey, WA. I will say that the online store focuses alot more on "uniforms" with plain polo shirts and what not. Anyway I also checked out JCpenney online and the stuff you see in the store at the tacoma mall is way different from their online selection! Strange. But very interesting. While they have less clothes available online they are more "appropriate" so that's something for me to consider. Shopping online!

In any case I'm hardly what one would consider a "prude." I assure you a trip to the mall will enlighten you to what I'm talking about. You live one state down so I can't imagine your mall experience would be too different. Today we mostly shopped at the Tacoma Mall.

 

[Willow]

I know exactly what you mean, I have twin neices who are six and my sister had the same problem. When I went to check out the stores around me Jc Penny, Sears, Walmart even, most of the stuff was creepy.
If you want to see really creepy, I had to take my kid for his senior photos and they of course have the studio lined with senior shots of teenagers, The majority of the shots looked liked the girls were posing for MAxim, I saw several with girls with a bra underneath and open shirts showing the middle of the bra and their tummies with lowcut jeans on of course, my kid is the sports editor for the yearbook and he said the school pretty much allows it as the parents pay so much for the photos they'll freak out if they don't accept them. I couldn't figure out who would pay someone hundreds of dollars to make their teenage girl look so nasty. I'm no prude and in fact being an artist have drawn literally dozens of nudes but this was plain old bad taste. Ick.

 

[FallingPianos]

Star I did go to targets onlilne store and I did notice that the stuff offered there is alot different from whats in the store here in Lacey, WA. I will say that the online store focuses alot more on "uniforms" with plain polo shirts and what not. Anyway I also checked out JCpenney online and the stuff you see in the store at the tacoma mall is way different from their online selection! Strange. But very interesting. While they have less clothes available online they are more "appropriate" so that's something for me to consider. Shopping online!

In any case I'm hardly what one would consider a "prude." I assure you a trip to the mall will enlighten you to what I'm talking about. You live one state down so I can't imagine your mall experience would be too different. Today we mostly shopped at the Tacoma Mall.

I avoid malls, way too expensive and the clothers arent that great. I tend to go for the goodwills and the vintage clothing stores. I could never shop for clothing on line. the last time I bought a pair of pants, I had to try on 30 different pairs before I found one that fits.

 

[128shot]

Do clothes really matter that much?

 

[FallingPianos]

Do clothes really matter that much?

like, duh!

 

[jamesrage]

IF you know how to work a sewing machine you can make clothes for your kids.Thats what my mom used to do when me and my sisters were young.

 

[Monkey Mind]

Do clothes really matter that much?

I agree with Talloulou. It's irritating to go shopping for your daughter and be bombarded with T-shirts full of demeaning, inane slogans. The websites do not have the full line of T-shirts that you'll see if you shop at the brick-and-mortar store. I don't know if that's because the stock changes frequently, or if it's because they want to appeal to a wide audience and are ashamed to show the more offensive designs. Whatever the case, the stores in my neigborhood have dozens of different shirts similar to these:


'Glittery text on the front of this T-shirt declares the spoiled girl’s dream: "Spend Your Money On Me"'
http://www.target.com/gp/detail.htm...409262-9303366?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B000HK1OQ2

Who would buy this?


"It's all about Me Me Me"
http://www.childrensplace.com/webap...n&catTree=27151,27690,27317,27758&clearance=0

Is this one supposed to appeal to the spoiled kid who really does think it's all about her her her, or maybe to the parent who thinks its funny to joke about their kid being a spoiled bitch? I don't understand how this one would sell either.


"P is for Princess"
http://www.childrensplace.com/webap...313175&langId=-1&exp=n&catTree=NA&cmCat=99997

I know, you're probably thinking Princess seems innocent enough. But I find it offensive that these marketers are presenting the idea of "princess" as an ideal for little girls to strive for. This isn't Saudi Arabia. Our culture does not recognize or respect royalty. Why such forceful promotion of an antiquated gender role that has no value in our society?

 

[Tashah]

Reminds me of a skin-tight spaghetti-strap tank-top I have with the phrase 'Don't Stare At Me' on the back. The ultimate in b!tch arrogance

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Do clothes really matter that much?

Only if you don't want to be arrested for public exhibitionism. :tongue4:

 

[jamesrage]

I agree with Talloulou. It's irritating to go shopping for your daughter and be bombarded with T-shirts full of demeaning, inane slogans. The websites do not have the full line of T-shirts that you'll see if you shop at the brick-and-mortar store. I don't know if that's because the stock changes frequently, or if it's because they want to appeal to a wide audience and are ashamed to show the more offensive designs. Whatever the case, the stores in my neigborhood have dozens of different shirts similar to these:


'Glittery text on the front of this T-shirt declares the spoiled girl’s dream: "Spend Your Money On Me"'
http://www.target.com/gp/detail.htm...409262-9303366?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B000HK1OQ2

Who would buy this?


"It's all about Me Me Me"
http://www.childrensplace.com/webap...n&catTree=27151,27690,27317,27758&clearance=0

Is this one supposed to appeal to the spoiled kid who really does think it's all about her her her, or maybe to the parent who thinks its funny to joke about their kid being a spoiled bitch? I don't understand how this one would sell either.


"P is for Princess"
http://www.childrensplace.com/webap...313175&langId=-1&exp=n&catTree=NA&cmCat=99997

I know, you're probably thinking Princess seems innocent enough. But I find it offensive that these marketers are presenting the idea of "princess" as an ideal for little girls to strive for. This isn't Saudi Arabia. Our culture does not recognize or respect royalty. Why such forceful promotion of an antiquated gender role that has no value in our society?

The spoiled brat wear line of clothing,perhaps it is to give warning to other people that the child is a spoiled brat?

 

[Monkey Mind]

Reminds me of a skin-tight spaghetti-strap tank-top I have with the phrase 'Don't Stare At Me' on the back. The ultimate in b!tch arrogance

Ha! Those shirts are a catch-22, and the wearers know it. :2razz: That reminds me of this shirt: http://www.cafepress.com/gymskinz/1194653

Also reminds me, I was meaning to order this one: http://www.cafepress.com/gymskinz/1223727

Edgy T-shirts worn by adults are a totally different issue though. I'm fully in favor of adult women dressing in any and every manner they choose, and I understand the potential for irony and self-empowerment in the slogans on their clothing. But for little kids, there is no irony. What they understand is that their culturally acceptable options are to be a "princess" or a "brat".

 

[Tashah]

Edgy T-shirts worn by adults are a totally different issue though. I'm fully in favor of adult women dressing in any and every manner they choose, and I understand the potential for irony and self-empowerment in the slogans on their clothing. But for little kids, there is no irony. What they understand is that their culturally acceptable options are to be a "princess" or a "brat".

School uniforms would go a long way towards eliminating this Madison Avenue *haughty is trendy* commercialism.

 

[FallingPianos]

School uniforms would go a long way towards eliminating this Madison Avenue *haughty is trendy* commercialism.

I like the idea of school uniforms when they are vague. there are too many schools out there that require girls to wear skirts during all seasons, and other such problems.

I would instead impliment a very strict dress code: mono colored Tshirts, polos, sweatshirts, or sweaters. neck line must cover collar bones, belly cannot show.

shorts and pants must also be mono colored. shorts must go down to mid thigh, pants must go down to ankle.

 

[Purple]

shorts and pants must also be mono colored. shorts must go down to mid thigh, pants must go down to ankle.

And for boys, pants must be worn around the waist. But that's a whole different thread.