Lies in support of 9/11 TRUTH

[Fledermaus]

This presupposes that all truther arguments are lies. Maybe your assumption is wrong. If you think this alleged frame manipulation is a lie,...

September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
<snipped video spam>
(2:13:35 time mark)

...please explain to us why you think so. This is very related to the topic.

Please explain why you continue to contaminate the thread with video-spam.

 

[Scott]

Please explain why you continue to contaminate the thread with video-spam.

I don't consider it to be video-spam. I consider it to be a legitimate on-topic issue. A sincere truth-seeker would address the issue. Aren't you pro-official version posters sincere truth-seekers?

 

[Fledermaus]

I don't consider it to be video-spam. I consider it to be a legitimate on-topic issue. A sincere truth-seeker would address the issue. Aren't you pro-official version posters sincere truth-seekers?

A sincere truth seeker would NOT be posting that video.

Asked again.

Please start YOUR OWN THREAD.

 

[Scott]

A sincere truth seeker would NOT be posting that video.

This video is a summary of all the truthers' arguments.

September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M


Why wouldn't a truther post that video? Truthers post videos that show their arguments.

 

[Fledermaus]

It seems that you don't think this alleged frame manipulation is a lie.

September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M
(2:13:35 time mark)

If you did, you'd explain why you thought it was a lie. It's not a lie. It's one of the clearest pieces of proof that show that 9/11 was an inside job.

A sincere truth-seeker would address this issue. You are a sincere truth-seeker, aren't you?

OK.... 2:13:35 time mark begins a portion that discusses a video anomaly.... At the Pentagon.

And an ALLEGED manipulation.... ALLEGED.

Since we already KNOW Flight 77 hit the Pentagon the anomaly is irrelevant.

The issue has been addressed.

Stop the spamming.

 

[Fledermaus]

This video is a summary of all the truthers' arguments.

September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M

Why wouldn't a truther post that video? Truthers post videos that show their arguments.

The video is a great example of LIES perpetrated by TRUTHERS.....

PLEASE START YOUR OWN THREAD.

 

[Scott]

Since we already KNOW Flight 77 hit the Pentagon the anomaly is irrelevant.

The video manipulation is evidence that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon. If you think there's no manipulation in the footage, tell us why. A sincere truth-seeker wouldn't try to avoid this issue. It's pretty serious evidence.

If you thought it was a lie, you'd address it directly. Please address it directly.


September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M
(2:13:35 time mark)

 

[Scott]

The video is a great example of LIES perpetrated by TRUTHERS

So you do think the truthers' argument that there is video manipulation is a lie. Please show us how the video was not manipulated and that the truthers are wrong.

This is not off-topic. If you're a sincere truth-seeker, please address the issue.

 

[Fledermaus]

The video manipulation is evidence that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon. If you think there's no manipulation in the footage, tell us why. A sincere truth-seeker wouldn't try to avoid this issue. It's pretty serious evidence.

If you thought it was a lie, you'd address it directly. Please address it directly.

September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)

(2:13:35 time mark)

Flight 77 hit the Pentagon.

Eyewitness testimony consistent with Flight 77
Debris consistent with Flight 77
Wheel consistent with Flight 77
Impact damage consistent with Flight 77
Engine consistent with Flight 77
Landing gear components consistent with Flight 77
Phone records consistent with Flight 77
DNA consistent with Flight 77
Personal effects consistent with Flight 77
Radar consistent with Flight 77
ATC tracking both radar and visual consistent with Flight 77
Damage to light-posts consistent with Flight 77

And you have a VIDEO ANOMALY.....

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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[Fledermaus]

9. Flight 77 did not impact the Pentagon.

 

[Scott]

Eyewitness testimony consistent with Flight 77
Debris consistent with Flight 77
Wheel consistent with Flight 77
Impact damage consistent with Flight 77
Engine consistent with Flight 77
Landing gear components consistent with Flight 77
Phone records consistent with Flight 77
DNA consistent with Flight 77
Personal effects consistent with Flight 77
Radar consistent with Flight 77
ATC tracking both radar and visual consistent with Flight 77
Damage to light-posts consistent with Flight 77

The video shows all of the above to be false.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M
(1:55:25 time mark)

And you have a VIDEO ANOMALY.....

You're not addressing this directly. Please address it directly. Was the video manipulated? Please give your analysis of the issue of video manipulation. Don't try to change the subject without addressing this issue.

 

[Fledermaus]

The video shows all of the above to be false.

(1:55:25 time mark)

You're not addressing this directly. Please address it directly. Was the video manipulated? Please give your analysis of the issue of video manipulation. Don't try to change the subject without addressing this issue.

The ANOMALY is IRRELEVANT considering the FACT Flight 77 impacted the Pentagon.

Since it is a FACT Flight 77 impacted the Pentagon, perhaps you can explain why your precious ANOMALY is relevant.

 

[Scott]

Since it is a FACT Flight 77 impacted the Pentagon

It's not a fact. All the stuff you mentioned can be explained.


The phone call issue is addressed here.

September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M
(1:38:34 time mark)


Some witnesses saw a small plane.
Witness List Broken Down - Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum

In a big conspiracy there would be planted witnesses. Witnesses seeing different things is consisten with there being both planted and real witnesses.


The light poles are not proof of anything as they could have been staged in advance.
The Light Poles Were Staged In Advance. - Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum


This explains the DNA.

Painful Deceptions 911 Documentary by Eric Hufschmid - Full Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hWhvRBjbko
(43:47 time mark)


edit five minutes later-

The radar is consistent because a 757 flew over the Pentagon and landed at the airport behind it.
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/2170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGvXVzdlcQk


The crash site is not consistent with a 757 having crashed there.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=april+gallop+9+11


Now please address the issue of the alleged video manipulation.



I have to go to work now. I'll be back later.

 

[zyzygy]

It's not a fact. All the stuff you mentioned can be explained.


The phone call issue is addressed here.

September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M
(1:38:34 time mark)


Some witnesses saw a small plane.
Witness List Broken Down - Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum

In a big conspiracy there would be planted witnesses. Witnesses seeing different things is consisten with there being both planted and real witnesses.


The light poles are not proof of anything as they could have been staged in advance.
The Light Poles Were Staged In Advance. - Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum


This explains the DNA.

Painful Deceptions 911 Documentary by Eric Hufschmid - Full Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hWhvRBjbko
(43:47 time mark)

Odd use of the word explains.

 

[Fledermaus]

It's not a fact. All the stuff you mentioned can be explained.

The phone call issue is addressed here.

September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M
(1:38:34 time mark)

Some witnesses saw a small plane.
Witness List Broken Down - Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum

In a big conspiracy there would be planted witnesses. Witnesses seeing different things is consisten with there being both planted and real witnesses.

The light poles are not proof of anything as they could have been staged in advance.
The Light Poles Were Staged In Advance. - Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum

This explains the DNA.

Painful Deceptions 911 Documentary by Eric Hufschmid - Full Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hWhvRBjbko
(43:47 time mark)

edit five minutes later-

The radar is consistent because a 757 flew over the Pentagon and landed at the airport behind it.
New Research Contradicts Pentagon 9-11 Story - Sheila Casey | The Blog of the WTC Demolition Site
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGvXVzdlcQk

The crash site is not consistent with a 757 having crashed there.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=april+gallop+9+11

Now please address the issue of the alleged video manipulation.

The ALLEGED video manipulation is just that. ALLEGED.

And since Flight 77 and only Flight 77 impacted the Pentagon the ALLEGED video manipulation is IRRELEVANT.

I have discussed it. I don't believe the ALLEGED video manipulation occured... Nor do I believe the ALLEGED video manipulation is RELEVANT.

Why do you wish to discuss IRRELEVANT ALLEGATIONS since Flight 77 and only Flight 77 impacted the Pentagon?

And PLEASE STOP THE VIDEO SPAM.;..

Last reposonce about the IRRELEVANT ALLEGATIONS of video manipulation since ALLEGED video manipulation is IRRELEVANT.

 

[Quag]

Seems some people are unclear on the concept. But then if they were clear they wouldn't be truthers

 

[Helix]

The video manipulation is evidence that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon. If you think there's no manipulation in the footage, tell us why. A sincere truth-seeker wouldn't try to avoid this issue. It's pretty serious evidence.

If you thought it was a lie, you'd address it directly. Please address it directly.


September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M
(2:13:35 time mark)

Moderator's Warning:

You've posted the link to this video many times in the thread already. Cut it out.

 

[Fledermaus]

10 , Flight 93 was shot down

 

[Quag]

11. Towers fell at free fall speed

12. Towers fell in their own footprint

 

[zyzygy]

The planes were holograms, although that lie seems to have disappeared from the truther menu of mendacity.

 

[Quag]

Zyzygy please number them

14. Flying a plane at high speed in ground effect is impossible

 

[zyzygy]

Zyzygy please number them

14. Flying a plane at high speed in ground effect is impossible

We're going to run out of numbers.

 

[Scott]

The ALLEGED video manipulation is just that. ALLEGED.

Nobody who actually looks at it will agree with you. You seem to be checkmated here.

 

[Quag]

We're going to run out of numbers.

Don't worry truthers aren't really that imaginative they keep circling around back to the same stuff after a little while.

 

[zyzygy]

Nobody who actually looks at it will agree with you. You seem to be checkmated here.

Er.... no. Just another YooToob truther video. Nothing to see here. And off topic. The topic is all the lies that truthers tell about 911.