Libertarianism is what self-declared anarchists switch to after leaving university. Has a more mature ring to it but just as silly.Libertarianism has always occupied a minority political fringe because most thinking adults realize that none of us are an island, because we are all totally interdependent upon each other for our very existence.
It's what Obama was alluding to when he said, and I'm paraphrasing, "... you didn't build that!" - because he knew that nobody's so-called "individual success" can even exist in this country without the support of our laws, our common infrastructure, and our totally interdependent societal support systems.
Ime, the numbers of 'Trump Libertarians', 'Biden Libertarians', etc. kooky 'Libertarians' have grown to such a point as to make 'modern libertarianism' meaningless.
Where have all the real libertarians gone?
"...Put simply, libertarianism is the political philosophy that holds that all people, as the Declaration of Independence promises, are endowed by their creator with certain “inalienable rights,” including “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness;” that we are all equal before the law, and that government and law exist for no other purpose than to protect us from those who would deny or infringe on our ability to make the most of ourselves in whatever way we choose – provided we respect the equal right of others to do the same.
At the root of libertarian morality is the concept of self-ownership and its corollary, private property. If we are each, as individuals, the rightful captains of our own destiny, it is essential that force and coercion be abolished from society to the greatest possible and practical extent. As a means to social harmony, force can only be legitimate if it is employed to defend the rights of society’s individual members against an aggressor.
Properly understood, force is only morally acceptable if it used in self-defense; we libertarians reject the initiation of force. “Live and let live,” in other words. Respectively, we may each arrive at this destination from any number of varying origins – constitutionalism, objectivism, religion, natural rights, “pragmatic sanction,” the Golden Rule, etc. – but the goal is peaceful coexistence..."
Libertarianism in One Easy Lesson – The Future of Freedom Foundation
It would be hard to imagine a larger deficiency in modern American society than the one we find in the ability of individual citizens to understand their proper relationship with government, and each other. Beneath the endless cacophony of varying special-interest groups lies a fundamental...www.fff.org
What workplace, neighborhood, school, or other organization do you know that has worked best when left free of enforceable laws and regulations?
Authoritarian Republicrats RULE [and have ruled my whole life]
so there are no examples. Btw, I CERTAINLY don't want an absence of laws. I want laws that protect the rights of individuals from true 'crimes.'
Put the strawmen away, please.
Left free, society is like a game of Monopoly: one or a few people win everything in the end, and everyone else is left with nothing. There, too, there are only game rules which keep from from true "crimes". You can't steal other players' money. But the end result is the same.
That's fine for family game night. But if you are interested instead to play "stable and sustainable civil society", you are going to need a few more rules than that.
I've never seen you exhibit any knowledge of our stinking rotten monetary order, esp. with respect to the creation/issuance of money. Please direct me to your best writing/ideas on the subject and we might be able to have a meaningful discussion.
It seems lately to be working out rather well for the 68% holding equity in their residences.I've never seen you exhibit any knowledge of our stinking rotten monetary order, esp. with respect to the creation/issuance of money. Please direct me to your best writing/ideas on the subject and we might be able to have a meaningful discussion.
It's not just about money, although that is a big part of it. Left free, money begets money, power begets power, and privilege begets privilege. That's the natural order of things. The problem with that approach is that almost universally, that leads to one or a few people winning at the end, and everyone else is a loser- like the game of monopoly. And if you don't like coercion, you won't like what such winners traditionally do in the end.
The freedom of democracy seems to work better and seems to be a more stable system- not the freedom of anarchy/libertarianism. In the marketplace of ideas and social experiments, that is what we have learned so far.
It's not just about money, although that is a big part of it.
The freedom of democracy seems to work better and seems to be a more stable system than the freedom of anarchy/libertarianism. In the marketplace of ideas and social experiments, that is what we have learned so far.
I take it you have no honest idea how money is created and issued, by whom, etc.
I don't see where you have said anything about this for me to even know what to address. All I have heard repeated is "freedom". It leaves me a little puzzled as to what that's supposed to mean when it comes to systems of wealth, currency, and exchange.Please correct me if I'm wrong.
The point is a lot of individuals don't have that responsibility. So the question really becomes what to do with such individuals who don't have the responsibility of knowing their limits- many of whom can be very powerful- physically, militarily, financially, politically, etc...What in hell is 'the freedom of Democracy?!?' Again, 'freedom'/'responsibility'/etc. doesn't mean a stinking thing without the word 'individual' [understood] preceding it.
No- that problem was a difficult one that was addressed by the American Constitution, and later by other modern democracies.Republicrat "Democracy" ['majority authoritarianism'] often leads to 'the majority' denying 'the minority' honest freedom which can be defined as 'the absence of coercion.'
Nobody wants to live in a Libertarian society, not even Libertarians.
The ole "government built the roads" argument and therefore "We need the government to wipe our tushes."Libertarianism has always occupied a minority political fringe because most thinking adults realize that none of us are an island, because we are all totally interdependent upon each other for our very existence.
It's what Obama was alluding to when he said, and I'm paraphrasing, "... you didn't build that!" - because he knew that nobody's so-called "individual success" can even exist in this country without the support of our laws, our common infrastructure, and our totally interdependent societal support systems.
There are no examples of 'a libertarian society.' EVER.
The ole "government built the roads" argument and therefore "We need the government to wipe our tushes."
Currency is created by government. Wealth is created by people working. The two go together. It's a complicated system which has evolved over a few thousand years.
y other democracies.
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I am just curious what you see as the difference between libertarian freedom and the kind of freedom one encounters in the jungle.
Reductio ad absurdum, and ridiculous hyperbole, doesn’t serve your ideology.The ole "government built the roads" argument and therefore "We need the government to wipe our tushes."
Have you thought that that may be because it doesn't work?
Wer pay handsomely for roads that were built decades ago and are littered and not maintained because it is gubment.Haha. It's better than the ole "government built the roads" argument and therefore "we don't need no stinkin' roads".
It is your argument in a nutshell. If the government built airports and planes, you could say we couldn't fly without the government having done that.Reductio ad absurdum, and ridiculous hyperbole, doesn’t serve your ideology.
The ole "government built the roads" argument and therefore "We need the government to wipe our tushes."
Wrong. Most/all dollars are created by PRIVATE commercial 'banks of issue' 'creating deposits' in their insane 'fractional reserve' lending process.
Wrong. Most/all dollars are created by PRIVATE commercial 'banks of issue' 'creating deposits' in their insane 'fractional reserve' lending process.
Wer pay handsomely for roads that were built decades ago and are littered and not maintained because it is gubment.
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