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Libertarian Purity Test

Score 71

"You are a medium-core libertarian, probably self-consciously so. Your friends probably encourage you to quit talking about your views so much."
Got that right. LOL

The main reason that I am *not* a libertarian is because of the borders.
Those brain surgeons want to completely remove them.
 
I only got a 73.

That seemed more like an Anarchist purity test than a Libertarian one. Most of the part 3 questions were a little ridiculous in my view. Privatizing roads, infrastructure, military, police, courts, and law? The majority of libertarians wouldn't take it that far.
 
I scored 21...does that make me more of a fascist? :2wave:
 
73. This test is obviously flawed as I am the perfect Libertarian. So therefor, 73 is the perfect score. I'm for personal responsability coupled with voluntary compassion. This philosophy would be perfect if you jerks would just stop trying to control what other people do with their lives and money. You do not know better. Some of you low scoring folks fall here. Kelzie.

Galenrox of course is high again and needs to live in a jungle island cave with Ivan the eee where they could take turns being master.
 
teacher said:
73. This test is obviously flawed as I am the perfect Libertarian. So therefor, 73 is the perfect score. I'm for personal responsability coupled with voluntary compassion. This philosophy would be perfect if you jerks would just stop trying to control what other people do with their lives and money. You do not know better. Some of you low scoring folks fall here. Kelzie.

Galenrox of course is high again and needs to live in a jungle island cave with Ivan the eee where they could take turns being master.

hahahaha.


Even I can't resist, I have to laugh at this one...
 
I got an 84 but this test is bullshit Libertarians are not anarchists they are economic anarchists but still feel that the government has certain essential functions in society ie security, police, defense, law etc etc what they are against is the government ****ing around with private enterprise and private affairs ie taxation, drugs, etc etc. I figure I'm closer to a paleo-conservative Republican if the libertarians have shifted from reactionary conservatives to all out anarchists.
 
galenrox said:
I'm realizing that all you liberals are facists! So much for the idea that liberals are the ones that are for more liberty, huh?:2wave:

uh derrrrrrrrrr I've been saying this for years now who the **** do you think Orwell was talking about ACLU=Thought Police, you can't say that you're against illegal immigration you racist pig, Political Correctness=New Speak, happy holidays ha, Multiculturalism=Revisionist history, the Native Americans were noble peoples until the evil European's came and slaughtered them and took them out of their communist style living arrangments and forced evil capitalism upon them we should learn from them etc etc etc, oh and my absolute favorite Chavez is just misunderstood.

Laughing all the way to the bank.
 
I like every Domestic policy of the Libertarians but I think their foriegn policy sucks it's short sited and not based in reality they don't like interventionalist or preemptive wars because they feel that it is not in our nations interests, I would contend that spreading Democracy is most certainly in our nations interest; furthermore, their economic foriegn policy sucks they're against the FTAA, NAFTA, and CAFTA I think this is short sited because if anything has proven socialism as a failed experiment it has been open markets and deregulation, that and open markets can help to spread Democracy for example once the Soviet Union excepted open markets and free trade they very quickly converted to Democracy, Capitalism won the Cold War. I'd have to say I'm a split between a Neo-Con Republican and a Paleo-Con Libertarian, the Neo-cons on their foriegn policy, the Paleo-cons on their Domestic economic policies and social issues eg total deregulation and what ever doesn't hurt anyone else should be legal.
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
furthermore, their economic foriegn policy sucks they're against the FTAA, NAFTA, and CAFTA

Since when are Libertarians against free trade?
 
The Real McCoy said:
Since when are Libertarians against free trade?

Long ago I noticed there are now two Libertarian parties. One I like to call the hippie side. They're for open borders, no government at all, legal drugs, even heroin and PCP ect. And what I call the sensible Libertarians. Those that allow a government to provide it's citizens Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. Ring a bell? This faction seems to be made up of people that are socially liberal and economically conservative. IMO those that take the best of what the Democrates and Republicans offer and throw out the rest. Nazi's and bedwetters both need not apply. This test is defiantly for the hippie Libertarians.
 
I would have to take this test twice:

Once for policies that I think we're ready to implement now, and then again for policies that I think theoretically could work in the distant future.
 
Connecticutter said:
I would have to take this test twice:

Once for policies that I think we're ready to implement now, and then again for policies that I think theoretically could work in the distant future.

So for now you score 73 and for the future you score 160?
 
teacher said:
Long ago I noticed there are now two Libertarian parties. One I like to call the hippie side. They're for open borders, no government at all, legal drugs, even heroin and PCP ect. And what I call the sensible Libertarians. Those that allow a government to provide it's citizens Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. Ring a bell? This faction seems to be made up of people that are socially liberal and economically conservative. IMO those that take the best of what the Democrates and Republicans offer and throw out the rest. Nazi's and bedwetters both need not apply. This test is defiantly for the hippie Libertarians.

Hmmm...I think I shall have to give these sensible liberterians some consideration then...all the liberterians I have met so far seem to have some strange connection to Star Trek conventions, D&D, and S&M...
 
teacher said:
So for now you score 73 and for the future you score 160?

Close.

Pragmatic: 70
Theoretical: 144

I think we should work on all of the part 1 stuff. Then, we'll see about parts 2 and 3.

Actually, there are some libertarian reforms which should be done right away if our law-makers and fellow citizens would go along with it. I'll list a few I think we can do. Unfortunately, congress wouldn't go for it.

- End the war on drugs. Reduces stress on our prison system, gang/mob control, and increases border security (at least that's the plan).
- Privatize toll roads. (If there's already a toll, then we can't scream market failure - I bet we're close to coming up with a toll-less way of doing road pricing and the private market will find it much faster).
- Allow people to sell their organs. (It sounds extreme, but it would go a long way to end the organ shortage).
- Quit protective tariffs, subsidies, and any other "industry specifc" law that's only in place because of lobbyists.
 
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47. Some of those questions, if answered in the affirmative, bordered more on anarchy than libertarian
 
Ummm....I got a 34. Guess I'm stickin' with the Dems.
 
The Real McCoy said:
Since when are Libertarians against free trade?

A large sect of them are anti-establishment paranoid mother ****ers who hate the IMF the World bank et al, they do not see the rationale for open market ties; such as, NAFTA, CAFTA, and an FTAA.
 
teacher said:
Long ago I noticed there are now two Libertarian parties. One I like to call the hippie side. They're for open borders, no government at all, legal drugs, even heroin and PCP ect. And what I call the sensible Libertarians. Those that allow a government to provide it's citizens Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. Ring a bell? This faction seems to be made up of people that are socially liberal and economically conservative. IMO those that take the best of what the Democrates and Republicans offer and throw out the rest. Nazi's and bedwetters both need not apply. This test is defiantly for the hippie Libertarians.


I would agree with you.

I don't believe anarchism, and I don't believe in capitalist anarchism.

But I do believe strongly in limited government. Government that allows free trade, and stops protecting unproductive inefficinent industry. I believe that government should not pander to lobby or interest groups.

I still believe that government is needed for some areas, such as law enforcement, public transport, and education. I even support envitronmnetal regulation such as the EPA.
 
galenrox said:
lol, not neccisarily. True libertarians think that most things (including policing) can be privatized and done more efficiently. The most libertarian you could be would be an anarcho-capitalist (I just call myself an anarchist, since I believe anarchy should be relevent, and the people who currently claim to be anarchists are just frickin idiots).
I wonder what you would be saying if you got a better score! Who's the poser libertarian now?

I actually went over this point with Scarecrow yesterday . . . hold up, ahh here it is:

I'm more worried about private police forces operating without legal restraint than I am about public police forces working under the authority of the constitution. I mean who are they accountable to? There's no checks and balances on them. Economic anarchy is one thing corporate government is quite another I mean what's to stop them from creating their own private military which operates outside of the law and is only accountable to the board of directors and not to the constitution of the United States. I'm probably just being paranoid and I know they already have rent a cops and the like but to say that private security should replace public security . . . I don't know, it just seems like a possible pandoras box to me.

I'm all for anarcho-capitalism but not corporate government and a state within the state which to me is the same thing as fascism.
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
I'm more worried about private police forces operating without legal restraint than I am about public police forces working under the authority of the constitution. I mean who are they accountable to? There's no checks and balances on them. Economic anarchy is one thing corporate government is quite another I mean what's to stop them from creating their own private military which operates outside of the law and is only accountable to the board of directors and not to the constitution of the United States. I'm probably just being paranoid and I know they already have rent a cops and the like but to say that private security should replace public security . . . I don't know, it just seems like a possible pandoras box to me.

I believe that some police functions can be privatized. We have private security forces, don't we? There are appartment buildings with 24 hour security, gated neighborhoods, and neighborhood watch programs. Of course, this is all made possible through the second ammendment.

In some places, semi-private police forces are given arrest powers, but they have to use these powers in accordance with the law, otherwise they themselves will get in trouble and their liscences revoked. This seems to work out pretty well.

In terms of "Libertarian Purity" I really don't care what score anyone gets. So long as you want to reduce government intervention, let's form a coalition, and anyone is free to jump off the bandwagon when they believe that government has gotten "too small."
 
If the gov't becomes erradicated, the corporations will be pretty much our new rulers. The only way in which we could keep the coprorations under control yet exist without a government is for our kids to be educated on their social responsibility to boycott businesses and refuse service and kinda use personal responsibility as a means of keeping order. However that, of course, depends on if people will actually get off their ass and do these things.

If someone is going to wave money in your face just so you can do the easy thing, I believe they will throw their responsibility out the doors regardless. So if you think about it, to be anarchist means to also be against major corporations. If corporations can buy anything, they can make, unto itself, a new gov't that will rule based on their own needs. Thats pretty much what we have now. Perhaps its a little extreme but if you think about, the most dishonest politicians are the ones who are like business men. Those god damn lobbyists with their bribery and free vacation bullshit can play them like they're puppets.

I cannot think of a solution to these problems except forf a government to provide regulations to businesses. Of course, its not a perfect solution though. But if we could find a way to reduce the power of these corporations then progression would move much quicker. The ultimate goal, in my opinion, is an anarchic society. But human beings aren't quite ready for that yet mainly because of these great corporations. I think it might be perhaps better if areas were divded up into smaller communites that had their own little gov't instead of no gov't whatesoever.

But I guess thats just my two cents.
 
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