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Liberals talk 'nuclear option' on debt hike

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The republicans want to have a big old fight, then pull out the big guns and shoot them right in the face. People want a dem with a backbone and that is why they are mad at the dems, not because they want the republican options. I say reid should use this right now in the most political way possible. Put a vote on the floor of the house or he nukes the filibuster in the senate. **** the hammer back and take aim and be ready to fire when they say no. This is not a game anymore and republicans want to up the bet, give them both barrels and let us see where the fallout leads. I am ready for some hardship over cutting the legs out from under the loonies. There is a storm coming no matter what, let us make sure to cripple them before it gets here.
 
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Repubs have a fine filibuster in the House also..
Cantor won't allow 217 votes on anything.
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Yes, please do gut the filibuster. Republicans will find that precedent very handy soon enough.
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LowDown said:
Yes, please do gut the filibuster. Republicans will find that precedent very handy soon enough.
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That threat is getting less viable by the day. Right now it looks like the GOP will be lucky to hold the House in 2014
 
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iguanaman said:
That threat is getting less viable by the day. Right now it looks like the GOP will be lucky to hold the House in 2014
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No, they're so well gerrymandered that this isn't happening.
 
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Deuce said:
No, they're so well gerrymandered that this isn't happening.
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Maybe for some of the T's in blood red districts but not all Republicans. The Dems need to pick off 17 to have the majority.
 
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Will Democrats still consider "nuclear" options to raise our "common" debt ceiling ?
What other options have they breathed in the past to just ignore the GOP ?
 
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If the GOP wins the Senate in 2014, will they "blow up the Senate" completely by nuking legislation like the PPACA,
knowing the President will veto for 2 years ?
 
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iguanaman said:
That threat is getting less viable by the day. Right now it looks like the GOP will be lucky to hold the House in 2014
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If you check the prognosticators like, Cook, Sabato, Rothenburg, even EP, you will find all them pretty much agree the Republicans have 200 safe seats to 165 for the Democrats. That leaves 34 Republican seats and 36 Democratic ones that actually have a chance of changing hands. Now add the likely seats to this total and likely means that these seat are not considered competitive at this point, but have to potential at some point in the future to become so, these number 16 Republican and 14 Democrat. You have 216 Republican seats vs. 179 Democratic ones in the safe and likely category. That leaves 18 republican seats and 22 Democratic ones is where next years election will be fought in the house. Out of the remaining 30 seats the Republicans need to only to win 2 of their own seats or 2 of the Democratic ones or a combination their of to retain the house. Whereas the Democrats need to win all 22 of their seat plus 17 of the 18 Republican seats up for re-election next year.

You do the math, chances are at the moment the Democrats will pick up 2 or 3 seats and that is due to retirement/resignation of the republican incumbent, 15 Republicans seats fall into this vs. only 5 for the Democrats. Now you throw in the generic congressional polls which the Republicans now lead by 1.6 points. I wouldn't go betting a single red cent on the chances of the Democrats taking over the house.
 
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Not this again just get rid of the stupid debt ceiling once and for all.
 
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