Ganondagan
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I think a lot of liberals are recognizing they've lost touch with the average American voter. I don't know why it has taken so long but Trump's win may have finally shaken them up. The Democrat narrative was soundly rejected.
Liberalism's Exhaustion
For years, I and many others have been warning liberals and progressives who defined themselves by embracing identity politics over material economic concerns, by touting America and Americans as the root of all evil, by portraying themselves as the occupiers of “the right side of history,” and who smeared those who didn’t buy into their program as ignorant, racist wretches.
We’ve been warning them: Keep at it, and your political base is going to shift out from under your feet. The “wretches”—some of whom used to be Democrats—are going to take their votes and their campaign contributions elsewhere. The “people of color” who you run to with your hand out every two years are going to realize you have nothing to offer in return except the hollow claim that “the other guys are worse.” We said, if you don’t rethink your political program, it will be the end of you.
This election may not mark the end for the Democratic Party, but I don’t think anyone can look at the results and say I was wrong. To be sure, there are many factors contributing to Trump’s win. Alienation from the Democratic Party can’t account for all of his success. But it may account for the narrow difference between a win and a loss.
And yet, what do we see in the aftermath? We see Nancy Pelosi, in an interview with the New York Times Magazine, refusing to admit that her party had any hand in its own defeat. We see angry progressives blaming the wretches for rejecting the party that has done nothing but mock them. We see very little of the soul-searching that one would expect among party leaders after losing two branches of the government in one election. In this clip, Daniel Bessner argues that the Democrats’ failure is a sign of liberalism’s exhaustion. It has, he says, nothing left to offer. I don’t know if he’s right about that. But if Kamala Harris is the best the Democrats can do, he’s not wrong.
The margin was 3%. The Democrat was narrowly rejected. Liberalism is something else, and that can't be determined by the election.
The voting of nearly 90% of U.S. counties moved to the political right in this election, and Trump won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes.
I know what the statistics are. The margin was 3%. That's a narrow margin in anyone's book.The voting of nearly 90% of U.S. counties moved to the political right in this election, and Trump won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes.
I think a lot of liberals are recognizing they've lost touch with the average American voter. I don't know why it has taken so long but Trump's win may have finally shaken them up. The Democrat narrative was soundly rejected.
I know what the statistics are. The margin was 3%. That's a narrow margin in anyone's book.
The election doesn't tell us about liberalism. That can be found in polls. Arizona saw a progressive beat a MAGA. Everyone here won reelection as the incumbent, down to the city council.
It's not a big shift.
I glanced over the Wikipedia page on 'Liberalism' (which must be 15 pages long) and I don't recognize the modern-day Democrat as such.
Well, no, given the surreal cartoon worldview of the average MAGA, I don't imagine you would.I glanced over the Wikipedia page on 'Liberalism' (which must be 15 pages long) and I don't recognize the modern-day Democrat as such.
I think a lot of liberals are recognizing they've lost touch with the average American voter. I don't know why it has taken so long but Trump's win may have finally shaken them up. The Democrat narrative was soundly rejected.
Liberalism's Exhaustion
The popular vote margin is actually less than 2%; so it was too with the swing states.The margin was 3%. The Democrat was narrowly rejected. Liberalism is something else, and that can't be determined by the election.
Here's a number for you. 70% of US adults voted for Harris or stayed home.The voting of nearly 90% of U.S. counties moved to the political right in this election, and Trump won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes.
Oh, you're one of those. Doubling down on 3%. 3% is narrow. Sorry.It's a big shift.
They are acting like spoiled children. It's Christmas morning, they got the present they really wanted but are still dissatisfied and have this weird compulsion to sit around and jeer at their siblings.MAGAs are really desperate to sell the narrative that this election was a gigantic referendum. Notice that?
https://www.monroepadems.com/democratic-party-achievements (JJUST A SMALL REMINDER....)I think a lot of liberals are recognizing they've lost touch with the average American voter. I don't know why it has taken so long but Trump's win may have finally shaken them up. The Democrat narrative was soundly rejected.
Liberalism's Exhaustion
For years, I and many others have been warning liberals and progressives who defined themselves by embracing identity politics over material economic concerns, by touting America and Americans as the root of all evil, by portraying themselves as the occupiers of “the right side of history,” and who smeared those who didn’t buy into their program as ignorant, racist wretches.
We’ve been warning them: Keep at it, and your political base is going to shift out from under your feet. The “wretches”—some of whom used to be Democrats—are going to take their votes and their campaign contributions elsewhere. The “people of color” who you run to with your hand out every two years are going to realize you have nothing to offer in return except the hollow claim that “the other guys are worse.” We said, if you don’t rethink your political program, it will be the end of you.
This election may not mark the end for the Democratic Party, but I don’t think anyone can look at the results and say I was wrong. To be sure, there are many factors contributing to Trump’s win. Alienation from the Democratic Party can’t account for all of his success. But it may account for the narrow difference between a win and a loss.
And yet, what do we see in the aftermath? We see Nancy Pelosi, in an interview with the New York Times Magazine, refusing to admit that her party had any hand in its own defeat. We see angry progressives blaming the wretches for rejecting the party that has done nothing but mock them. We see very little of the soul-searching that one would expect among party leaders after losing two branches of the government in one election. In this clip, Daniel Bessner argues that the Democrats’ failure is a sign of liberalism’s exhaustion. It has, he says, nothing left to offer. I don’t know if he’s right about that. But if Kamala Harris is the best the Democrats can do, he’s not wrong.
BS !The voting of nearly 90% of U.S. counties moved to the political right in this election, and Trump won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes.
It's a big shift.
Yeah and after 2008 a lot of us liberals thought we had just witnessed the collapse of the right wing in America.
Trust me. The Pendulum swings.
You think it's stopped swinging to the right? You may be in for a shock.
I agree with Musk. They should change their name to Dickipedia.I thought righties shunned Wikipedia. Did something change?
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