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Liberal steals the New York Times

RenoCon said:
For the last 5 years I have been going to my local Starbucks in the morning and have noticed that everyday there is a liberal (lets call him "Pat") that gets a tall coffee, and a half cup of free cream. Pat then slinks over to the news stand and sneaks a copy of the New York Times, reads it cover to cover and puts it back on the rack. Pat drives a high end German car and certainly could afford to buy the NYT. I would estimate that Pat has stolen $4500 dollars worth of NYT over the these years. Now, I have thought about approaching Pat at the pay counter and offering to pay for his NYT for him, or otherwise confront him, but, I suspect that the conversation would go something like this:

Me: Why do sneak around and read the New York Times every morning without paying for it?
Pat: Well, I am not stealing it! (He proclaims indignantly) I always put it back on the rack!
Me: So, you would only be "stealing it", if you actually took it home and used it to wipe your arse with it?
...the conversation would only go downhill from there...

Is this a common phenomenon at your local coffee shop? I never see a conservative (or otherwise) steal the WSJ. I have witnessed a moderate in our otherwise conservative coffee group read the local paper without paying for it, until she got her own subscription. I read my subscription to the WSJ every morning. If it does not show up at my doorstep (that happens about once a month), I pay $3.50 for it at Starbucks! Which is, needless to say, quite annoying.

Has anyone witnessed a conservative stealing the WSJ? I have not.

Is it OK to read a newspaper off of the sale rack and put it back? I know that I will not buy a newspaper that has already been read. My Dad would never read a newspaper or book that had "eyeprints" on it.
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I don't watch people like this. The local coffee shop that I attend mostly has local newspapers, and they're free. Also, it's the NYT, who cares? These large scale print media organizations largely just pander to themselves (WSJ is the propaganda wing of the RNC, the NYT is the propaganda wing of the DNC, etc). It sort of feels par for the course for a rich ***hole to steal money from them and a corporate coffee establishment. I'll have to get out the world's smallest violin and play for all of them.
 
RenoCon said:
Lets just stick to the boring neutral question in your case. Is it OK with you to take a paper off the rack, read it, and put it back...without paying for it? Or is that stealing?
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If you've noticed this behavior, we can safely guess the odds are 100% the owner/management has noticed it, and don't have any problem obviously. So it's clearly not "stealing" since it's being done with the knowledge and approval of the establishment.
 
americanwoman said:
No it's still there.
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Not finding it, only faithful_servants quote of it. Pray tell, what is the post # for your ORIGINAL comment?

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RenoCon said:
No. The papers are on the SALE RACK. I occasionally have to PURCHASE the WSJ off the SAME rack. I have seen coffee shops where there is a FREE paper. That is not the case here.

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That's different. Then, if they are for sale, of COURSE that's stealing.
 
RenoCon said:
I find it ironic that the liberal rag that is the NYT, espousing free health care, free education, labor union support by individuals that don't want them, etc. is losing tons of money as their liberal constituents steal their paper.

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You know this is common practice? Good to see you care about the NYT so much, I would have thought you would want it to fail, go figure.
 
RenoCon said:
It is easy to tell what car he drives. He always parks in the "handicap" spot, without a placcard, and jogs to the front door.


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Got film of this? So you are claiming that someone is breaking multiple laws and admitting that you are enabling them because you are not turning them in, noted.
 
JasperL said:
If you've noticed this behavior, we can safely guess the odds are 100% the owner/management has noticed it, and don't have any problem obviously. So it's clearly not "stealing" since it's being done with the knowledge and approval of the establishment.
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I am sure that the NYT does NOT know he is stealing their intellectual (I am using the term loosely, we are talking about the NYT here) property. The coffee shop has moved the rack a dozen times to make it more inconvenient for him to take the paper and not pay for it. Or...are they just rearranging the furniture? I love a good conspiracy.

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CaptainCourtesy said:
That's different. Then, if they are for sale, of COURSE that's stealing.
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Thank you. Just a pet peeve of mine. Or as they say on NPR Politics..."something I just can't get out of my head."

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JasperL said:
That's a good point. Normally conservatives prefer news written at about the 3rd grade level - Drudge, Newsmax, World Net Daily - that kind of drivel, and would be put off by the big words in the NYT. :roll:
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That's cute. The NYT has been honest in changing the masthead from "All the news that's fit to print" to "All the news that fits we print."
 
Casper said:
You know this is common practice? Good to see you care about the NYT so much, I would have thought you would want it to fail, go figure.
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I do. Maybe that is why I have not confronted the thiefs single handed efforts to bring the NYT to its knees.

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JasperL said:
That's a good point. Normally conservatives prefer news written at about the 3rd grade level - Drudge, Newsmax, World Net Daily - that kind of drivel, and would be put off by the big words in the NYT. :roll:
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Seriously? :roll:
 
RenoCon said:
I do. Maybe that is why I have not confronted the thiefs single handed efforts to bring the NYT to its knees.

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Well done, not believable, but nice footwork.
 
americanwoman said:
It's post number 9.
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That's interesting. I must have had a brain fart or it was just caught up in a log jam of posts quoted "1 hour ago." Thanks, either way. And I take full responsibility any failure on my part.

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americanwoman said:
I used to work in a bar and grill and there was an older couple, which based on our conversations I could easily determine they were very Republican, who would steal handful of crackers and put them in the women's purse. They were in a basket that was behind the counter but easily reached and definitely not for free. Since they were regulars and older the owner never said anything but always kept track. The guy was retired from the railroad and was well off and could afford to buy boxes of the crackers but instead they chose to be cheap and steal them.

I don't judge anyone other than them for their actions and it'd be pretty funny if I started a conservatives steal crackers thread.
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Were they Triscuits? I'd steal Triscuits but you can keep those saltines they serve with soup. I might aid and abet for a Ritz as long as it came with a slice of good cheddar.
 
RenoCon said:
Touched a nerve with you too?

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If you noticed, the issue is the idiotic partisan hackery you presented in your OP. Without that, your question is a good question and a legitimate concern. WITH it, it makes your OP look stupid and petty. You might want to rethink how you present.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
If you noticed, the issue is the idiotic partisan hackery you presented in your OP. Without that, your question is a good question and a legitimate concern. WITH it, it makes your OP look stupid and petty. You might want to rethink how you present.
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That would have been sooooo....boring. And you would have never responded without the words "liberal" and "NYT" in the headlines. Right?

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RenoCon said:
I am sure that the NYT does NOT know he is stealing their intellectual (I am using the term loosely, we are talking about the NYT here) property. The coffee shop has moved the rack a dozen times to make it more inconvenient for him to take the paper and not pay for it. Or...are they just rearranging the furniture? I love a good conspiracy.

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The NYT doesn't care about their intellectual property - if he's reading the NYT he's reading the ads, which is a win for the NYT. And Starbucks has to be one of the biggest sellers of the NYT, and has had special deals with NYT for many years, so I'm guessing they get copies of the paper for approaching free. So it's no secret why Starbucks probably doesn't give even a little damn about this "theft" - they have a customer who comes in every day, hundreds of visits per year, to buy their high margin coffee and pastry, and in return he gets to read a paper that costs them next to nothing. It's a rational business decision, not "theft."
 
Lutherf said:
Were they Triscuits? I'd steal Triscuits but you can keep those saltines they serve with soup. I might aid and abet for a Ritz as long as it came with a slice of good cheddar.
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Just regular saltines, none of the goodness of Triscuits or Ritz, my favorite.
 
RenoCon said:
That would have been sooooo....boring. And you would have never responded without the words "liberal" and "NYT" in the headlines. Right?

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I might have responded. I definitely would have responding differently. If this is how you want to come across... OK. Just remember, though. Just like your "perception" of liberals in the OP, people will get a "perception" of you and respond accordingly. If that's what you want, cool. If not, either alter your behavior or don't complain when you get the responses that you do.
 
RenoCon said:
That would have been sooooo....boring. And you would have never responded without the words "liberal" and "NYT" in the headlines. Right?

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Correction...paperview would have never responded....

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So, does Starbucks buy the paper and resell it or does NYT get paid by Starbucks only for the papers they sell? I'm just trying to clarify who is getting ripped off here. If Starbucks only pays the NYT for the papers they sell, they probably don't care. If Starbucks pays for all the papers regardless of if they sell them, they should probably just stop selling papers and have a couple out for people to read as they see fit. Chances are, they only care if the papers leave the store as they are more valuable to them as incentive for people to come in and buy drinks than they are as products to be (re)sold.

You should probably clarify that with the Starbucks. Sounds like you might have been wasting your money on all those WSJ's.
 
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