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Liberal EU leaders behave like 5 year olds over Brexit.

Those are examples but those are its main functions. Promoting cooperation and peace in Europe, regulating and promoting trade in the EU, and improving the lives and protecting the rights of Europeans. It does this through things like freedom of movement, standardization, human rights legislation, etc. It deals with big things that affect Europeans.

So if it was up to you would Canada join this global utopia?
 
What the hell are you talking about? The EU has a lot less control than you think it does, and what they have done has been in the interest of Europeans. They also have judicial supremacy, they are the court. The only court decisions they have forced upon its members are things like the Human Rights Act in the UK because they lack a Bill of Rights kind of deal and pro-consumer policies. What I mean is they actually need to inform people what free movement actually is and what it does for example. It only applies to EU citizens not just anyone physically in the EU. It also needs to explain how it allows investment and goods to flow throughout the entire union and how that is beneficial to all its members. All this anti-EU rhetoric is born form misunderstanding what the EU actually is.

That if all well and good. But take the judicial supremacy issue. Let's leave aside that the UK is signatory of the European Charter of Fundamental Rights and so does have a Bill of Rights and the large number of cases the Eu courts have ruled on for now. Judicial supremacy domonstrates the kind of problems that face the EU nicely. In brief, while many think that EU courts have supremacy over national courts. But this is not that simple.

When Germany entered the Lisbon Treaty it was contested before the German Supreme Court (Bundesverfassungsgericht) because it signed away the county's sovereignty illegally. This was not the case, the court argued, because it retained supremacy over European courts. If it were not so, signing the Lisbon Treaty would have been unconstitutional and Germany could not easily be a member.
 
UK stock market has beat france and germany AGAIN all 3 days .. germany last all 3 days....HORRENDOUS BLUNDER by merkel!! and liberals

and big blunder by liberals showing how easy it is to secede and showing how the big issue is that the more wise voters are conservative. which will change things everywhere when a wisdom test for voters becomes law everywhere...

75% of 18-24 yr olds voted to stay in the euro which would mean the older and more wise voted in a landslide to leave more liberal euro union.. this will wake up the world and america .. liberalism will be finished...America has 30 conservative states ready to secede with canada' conservative province alberta joining THE CONSERVATIVE STATES OF AMERCA.. china is very conservative as well as russia and now europe and america will be also.... all these will have a wisdom test for its voters.. China probably has that in private.. they see the people that seem wise and they bring them in and give them wisdom tests and they then vote for their leaders and make the laws and that is why their GDP scores have soared.. whereas liberal europe stuck with making stupid mistakes of having liberalism
 
So if it was up to you would Canada join this global utopia?

Well I believe we did work a free trade deal with the EU. We have no reason too, we are not psychically in Europe nor do we trade a lot with them. While Britain on the other hand , no matter how much people may think otherwise, is part of Europe and the European economy. We are part of the European Space Agency though.
 
That if all well and good. But take the judicial supremacy issue. Let's leave aside that the UK is signatory of the European Charter of Fundamental Rights and so does have a Bill of Rights and the large number of cases the Eu courts have ruled on for now. Judicial supremacy domonstrates the kind of problems that face the EU nicely. In brief, while many think that EU courts have supremacy over national courts. But this is not that simple.

When Germany entered the Lisbon Treaty it was contested before the German Supreme Court (Bundesverfassungsgericht) because it signed away the county's sovereignty illegally. This was not the case, the court argued, because it retained supremacy over European courts. If it were not so, signing the Lisbon Treaty would have been unconstitutional and Germany could not easily be a member.

Exactly, they do have supremacy in some matters and much like very other deal the EU has ever made there are exceptions and special cases. But is most cases as it concerns to European law as a whole, the courts have supremacy. Kind of similarish to the idea in the US of regulating interstate commerce and affairs.
 
Except even that blatantly lies and misleads. In the first part where it talks about the pillow regulations is a lie, a lot of those are EU patents for pillows or devices that use them as well as common sense regulations like you can't make them out of garbage. The UK will still have to follow those regulations regardless if they want to trade with the EU.

I agree. Some of the information presented regarding regulations seemed a bit like nit picking, as I am sure there are valid reasons for the multitude of regulations involved.

Of course, there was much more information about structure and representation presented, so just claiming the small segment on regulations makes everything a blatant lie and misleading seems a bit too dismissive.
 
I agree. Some of the information presented regarding regulations seemed a bit like nit picking, as I am sure there are valid reasons for the multitude of regulations involved.

Of course, there was much more information about structure and representation presented, so just claiming the small segment on regulations makes everything a blatant lie and misleading seems a bit too dismissive.

It shows the kind of fact-checking they do and how hard they are willing to sacrifice facts and context to make points.
 
It shows the kind of fact-checking they do and how hard they are willing to sacrifice facts and context to make points.

So it's a lie that the manufacture of pillows has so many regulations involved? Do you have evidence the information they provided was untrue?

It seems to me they were just pointing to all the regulations the EU requires manufacturers to meet. Most rational thinking people understand certain regulations are required so people don't stuff pillows with trash.

Thanks for your opinion, but I don't see reason to accept it over what was presented.
 
So it's a lie that the manufacture of pillows has so many regulations involved? Do you have evidence the information they provided was untrue?

It seems to me they were just pointing to all the regulations the EU requires manufacturers to meet. Most rational thinking people understand certain regulations are required so people don't stuff pillows with trash.

Thanks for your opinion, but I don't see reason to accept it over what was presented.

Go to 4:30.
 
Go to 4:30.


That's all very interesting, but why is the guy in the video, and it seems you as well, fixated on a couple of minutes about regulations and seemingly ignoring the other 50 minutes involving representation, sovereignty, trade, pay, etc?
 
That's all very interesting, but why is the guy in the video, and it seems you as well, fixated on a couple of minutes about regulations and seemingly ignoring the other 50 minutes involving representation, sovereignty, trade, pay, etc?

The rest of the video is also filled with misleading information like the purpose of trade agreements. It is true you do not need trade agreements but they are incredibly useful for the promotion of trade and investment, that is their entire purpose. It also talks about Switzerland but gloss over the fact it has a multitude of agreements with the EU including trade deals and adopting EU law.
 
The rest of the video is also filled with misleading information like the purpose of trade agreements. It is true you do not need trade agreements but they are incredibly useful for the promotion of trade and investment, that is their entire purpose. It also talks about Switzerland but gloss over the fact it has a multitude of agreements with the EU including trade deals and adopting EU law.

The bulk of the video involved the loss of control and sovereignty. It involved the construct of the EU, how it governs, who gets selected to represent the people, how new rules are passed, and a myriad of other information along similar lines.

I've stated the video is clearly a pro-leave piece, but it seems your intent on completely rejecting every point it brings up.

That doesn't seem reasonable.
 
THE 4 day pattern with the stock markets of UK.. FRANCE ,,and GERMANY..... EACH and every day UK was the winner of these 3...
each and every day Germany was the loser of these 3.

THE REASON is the wise can see that the immigration issue harms.. and UK shows they are saying most to NO they are helped the most and since germany is saying YES they are harmed the worst

MERKEL made a HORRENDOUS ERROR and will not admit it
 
The rest of the video is also filled with misleading information like the purpose of trade agreements. It is true you do not need trade agreements but they are incredibly useful for the promotion of trade and investment, that is their entire purpose. It also talks about Switzerland but gloss over the fact it has a multitude of agreements with the EU including trade deals and adopting EU law.

You posted a video that has misleading information except for the one part that makes your point? Seriously?
 
You posted a video that has misleading information except for the one part that makes your point? Seriously?

How is the video I posted misleading, it is just stating facts, unlike the Brexit movie.
 
So it's a lie that the manufacture of pillows has so many regulations involved? Do you have evidence the information they provided was untrue?

It seems to me they were just pointing to all the regulations the EU requires manufacturers to meet. Most rational thinking people understand certain regulations are required so people don't stuff pillows with trash.

Thanks for your opinion, but I don't see reason to accept it over what was presented.

Misinformation on the EU has been going on as long as Britain's membership. Much of the straight banana type nonsense, ironically originated with B Johnson.

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Here are some of the Brexit claims, since wiped from their website....

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Misinformation on the EU has been going on as long as Britain's membership. Much of the straight banana type nonsense, ironically originated with B Johnson.

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I'm not impressed by the few issues identified in the Economist's table. It appears there is more at issue than misinformation regarding whether Bombay mix was to be renamed, or bananas had approved.
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Here are some of the Brexit claims, since wiped from their website....

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I don't consider an ideologue like Daniel Margrain to be a particularly rational source on the subject. His table exposes his agenda as much as the insults he directed at those who voted to leave.

https://cultureandpolitics.org/

It does seem strange that an ageing population who were allowed to vote but statistically are less able to make an informed decision with regards to issues that have long-term ramifications, are considered to be a better judge for what is best for the country than people who are, say, 16 or 17 years old but are prevented from voting on something that will effect them to a far greater degree and for far longer.​
 
Euro Union nation has LOST TRILLIONS with MERKELS Horrendous error.. will she be thrown in jail?

each and every day since the vote.. Uk stock has beat france and germany each day with germany the worst each day

canada will benefit greatly from this as well as america with trading strong with UK.. same with austrailia

for the WEEK after the vote.... UK GAINED 2.6%....all the rest had a minus... France 5.1%.. Germany 5.6%..Spain 8.1%..Italy 9.8%.. Ireland 11.7%...Greece 12.3%... and each of the nordic states in the euro union lost and these will vote to secede from the union and the reason why they lost less..

WHAT a MONSTROUS ERROR by MERKEL...!!!

and how the very young voted shows this issue was a wisdom test for voters.. 75% of 18-25 voted to remain in union which means the others more experienced and wiser voted in a landslide to exit

and the stock markets proves who are the wiinners and losers and also shows if you let unwise people vote a nation WILL BE THE LOSER.. so soon there will be a world wide wisdom test for voters and no more liberalism..

THIS also will bring te conservative states to separate from the liberals states.... WELCOME TO THE CONSERVATIVE STATES OF AMERICA
 
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