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Liberal Anger Is FINALLY back!

Vauge, my intent, was not to 'advertise' anything. I was using the link as an example of a socio-political position that doesn't seem as repressed as the usual cutesy slogan sites (and why I personally enjoyed it,) but more importantly, it exemplifies to me what I've felt missing for some time among us on the left side of the aisle. It appears it's good enough behavior for the right (Limbaugh, Savage, Liddy, Coulter, etc.) but if a liberal shows some bullocks, 'Oh my gawd! How dare they act with such hatred?' Puhleeze!

Short slogans do seem to work well from the Commander & Thief. Perhaps it's a brain cell/retention thing. Not sure, or a useful means of conveying propaganda suggested by his handler, Karl Roverer.


Thanks for the link, pacridge. :2wave:
 
ShamMol said:
The left is the most hate-filled group in America? You should be kidding otherwise you are dillusional. The right uses Hitler references all the time, probably just as much as those on the left.
I haven't heard any from any soundbites of republican representation, also, I never hear Hitler references in any of my conversations with conservatives, most of the time we get angry when a new budget punishes tax payers or when one sided concessions are signed into law on behalf of smaller segments of the population, two things that the left is famous for. But as far as the "equal" use of Hitler analogies, I will need some backup to your argument.
You call us hate-filled and then say you detest name calling. BS. I guess people that are in the KKK don't count as being hate-filled
Listen to Corren Brown, Sheila Jackson Lee, Harry Reid, **** Durbin, Ted "it's five o'clock somewhere" Kennedy, et. al, that is pure hate(Dean is just a scream away from the Psych ward btw) coming from that side AND if those generalized statements, personal attacks, stereotypes, or slanders would be leveled at anyone who wasn't white/male/conservative, the country would be in an uproar. Finally, that KKK statement was a perfect example of the above mentioned attacks, I am a Republican and have never considered being a part of that group, but the Democratic voters continuously vote Sen. Robert Bird back into power, he is IN FACT a former KKK member and adamantly fought civil rights legislation over the years.
 
Squawker, I don't see Prescott 'vindicated'. In fact, I see the connection confirmed.
Your link was very old news/rumors. The Liberals have lied about this for years. It was proven not to be true a long, long time ago. If you read my source you would notice the date was 2003 and the article was by the AP, not Conservative media by any means.
Fritz Thyssen was an early financial supporter of Hitler, whose Nazi party Thyssen believed was preferable to communism. The documents do not show any evidence Bush directly aided that effort. His position with Union Banking never was a political issue for Bush, who was elected to the Senate from Connecticut in 1952.
There is no Bush “crime family” as your source indicated, that is more liberal fantasies. You can’t pin the KKK on the Republicans either. The Southern Democrats fought against freeing the slaves as well as the civil rights act. No matter how many times you repeat the lies, it won’t make them true.
 
the article was by the AP, not Conservative media by any means.

No, not right-wing press but the source of news for mainstream media. Hardly left-wing. What do you require, Newsmax?

:2razz:

Has someone bottled Huxley's Soma and I didn't hear about it?

:doh
 
LaMidRighter said:
I haven't heard any from any soundbites of republican representation, also, I never hear Hitler references in any of my conversations with conservatives, most of the time we get angry when a new budget punishes tax payers or when one sided concessions are signed into law on behalf of smaller segments of the population, two things that the left is famous for. But as far as the "equal" use of Hitler analogies, I will need some backup to your argument.
Listen to Corren Brown, Sheila Jackson Lee, Harry Reid, **** Durbin, Ted "it's five o'clock somewhere" Kennedy, et. al, that is pure hate(Dean is just a scream away from the Psych ward btw) coming from that side AND if those generalized statements, personal attacks, stereotypes, or slanders would be leveled at anyone who wasn't white/male/conservative, the country would be in an uproar. Finally, that KKK statement was a perfect example of the above mentioned attacks, I am a Republican and have never considered being a part of that group, but the Democratic voters continuously vote Sen. Robert Bird back into power, he is IN FACT a former KKK member and adamantly fought civil rights legislation over the years.

**** durbin was slammed because people took his words out of context. Conservatives jumped on that to say he was being un patriotic.

See if you actually LISTEN to the point he is trying to make rather then just oppose his view because you can see the little D next to his name when it shows up on the screen you might learn something


**** Durbins point was that if you read the reports coming in from Guitonomo bay (hatchet job on spelling) and dis regarded that fact that it came as an internal document. You might mistake them for reports coming fro mnazi death camps or Russian ghoulags.

I AM so sick and tired of this being a EGO game for you people. Each side has to listen to each other. That doesn't mean we have to AGREE , but it does mean we should take peoples points as they are meant to be. Not twist someones words for our OWN selfish purpouses.

This is not a company picnic where we have a tug of war against the other side of the office and there is a winner declared. The country may be split on some of the issues but the goal should be to sort those things out. NOT win the match.

You guys are like m essy divorce attorneys trying to get Every penny for your side and keeping your eyes on what YOU want to gain out of this. Rather then looking at the details like kids being involved and a family being torn apart.

conservatives only seem to want their own selfish ENDS. I would be Happy If one conservative came on here to better understand the other side so that we may take the next step foreward but this is nothing more then an EGO tennis match for many conservatives and liberals And in the end the only people who lose out are the american people and future generations as we focus more on our differences then the things we want to accomplish.
 
Durbin apologized!

Here's another example of my frustration with the Dems. They've become so spineless and accomodating to the right.

Yes, Durbin apologized...

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/wireStory?id=870374

There MUST be a better way to go.

Nader? Greens? Socialists?

I'm open to 'em all.
 
Re: Durbin apologized!

You could just support the Dems when you thhink they are right like I do...
 
Bigbird said:
**** durbin was slammed because people took his words out of context. Conservatives jumped on that to say he was being un patriotic.

See if you actually LISTEN to the point he is trying to make rather then just oppose his view because you can see the little D next to his name when it shows up on the screen you might learn something
I heard the whole thing, and I listened to it as well as the tone of his voice, very condesending, arrogant, et. al. Durbin's statements were nothing more than attacks against the opposition, he did not qualify his statements, and offended a whole lot of good people in the process, not to mention that aside from the irresponsible nature of what he said, I am also offended intellectually at the way he went about it, the man should be censured.


**** Durbins point was that if you read the reports coming in from Guitonomo bay (hatchet job on spelling) and dis regarded that fact that it came as an internal document. You might mistake them for reports coming fro mnazi death camps or Russian ghoulags.
No one died at Guantanamo, also, most of the things we did are miniscule in comparison to any other form of torture ever used in war, and in fact, you are fooling yourself if you think these things never occur, all Durbin is doing is stirring up #$%^.

I AM so sick and tired of this being a EGO game for you people. Each side has to listen to each other. That doesn't mean we have to AGREE , but it does mean we should take peoples points as they are meant to be. Not twist someones words for our OWN selfish purpouses.
No, the other side doesn't have to agree, but to make a press conference statement like that is reprehensible, this has been the M.O. of the Democrats since 2000, So exactly who do you think is playing games here?

This is not a company picnic where we have a tug of war against the other side of the office and there is a winner declared. The country may be split on some of the issues but the goal should be to sort those things out. NOT win the match.
So why is it that the minority is doing everything they can to gum up the process? I know how serious politics are and that is exactly why people like Durbin must be held accountable.

You guys are like m essy divorce attorneys trying to get Every penny for your side and keeping your eyes on what YOU want to gain out of this. Rather then looking at the details like kids being involved and a family being torn apart.
I have nothing to gain or lose from Gitmo, neither do any Republicans, the problem is that you have a party who is trying to manipulate the public with something that could be turned into a black eye for the opposition and since they have nothing else to stand on, they use dirty tactics such as libel, slander, conspiracies, pandering, and emotional rhetoric, they play games with those who are looking for real solutions.

conservatives only seem to want their own selfish ENDS. I would be Happy If one conservative came on here to better understand the other side so that we may take the next step foreward but this is nothing more then an EGO tennis match for many conservatives and liberals And in the end the only people who lose out are the american people and future generations as we focus more on our differences then the things we want to accomplish.
Now wait a minute, in the 60 years that the liberal wing of America has gained power, did they once ask a conservative how they felt about the ever growing federalization of this country, no, they shoved social change that displaced many American values down everyone's throats, forced people to comply using the rule of law, and did whatever they felt like doing. Short story long, why should conservatives then expend the time and energy to understand a point of view that did all of this to them? We are the majority, the minority is seeking to force us to do their will, and yet we are being selfish? We are not the ones whining about elections, we are not the ones trying to hold up the process, and we also are not the ones claiming a power we no longer have. Selfish? Hardly.
 
The thing that bothers me about the type of rhetoric Durbin and other Democrats/Liberals are using is the danger they put our troops in. Durbin should know better when our troops are fighting a war than to compare them to Nazis. He should lose his position if not his job IMO. Al Jeezera is broadcasting this all over the Middle East. Do you think they may exaggerate the truth a bit? Then people will say, "How come the world hates us?" "How come our troops are still getting killed?" :doh Get a friggin clue.
 
KNG said:
If Christ were here there is one thing he would not be--a Christian. - Mark Twain
I agree. He would be a Roman Catholic.
 
LaMidRighter said:
I haven't heard any from any soundbites of republican representation, also, I never hear Hitler references in any of my conversations with conservatives, most of the time we get angry when a new budget punishes tax payers or when one sided concessions are signed into law on behalf of smaller segments of the population, two things that the left is famous for. But as far as the "equal" use of Hitler analogies, I will need some backup to your argument.
OK....how about the great Rick Santorum, Senator from Pennsylvania? This happened just 30 days ago, how'd you miss it when he said:
Santorum said the suggestion that Republicans were trying to break the rules was "remarkable hubris."

"The audacity of some members to stand up and say 'How dare you break this rule' -- it's the equivalent of Adolf Hitler in 1942 saying 'I'm in Paris, how dare you invade me. How dare you bomb my city. It's mine.' This is no more the rule of the Senate than it was the rule of the Senate before not to filibuster. It was an understanding and agreement, and it has been abused."
Source: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05140/507782.stm

Both sides are equally guilty of using Hitler and Nazis against each other. It's pointless to debate because both sides do it....
 
Squawker said:
Durbin should know better when our troops are fighting a war than to compare them to Nazis. He should lose his position if not his job IMO.
You think that he should "lose his job" for exercising his right to free speech? Kind of what you want to happen here too, isn't it?

Should Frist lose his job for diagnosing Terry Schiavo by watching a videotape?

You know what? If the people in his state vote him out, then he will lost his job. That's how it works in America.

Some people on this board just want to censor anyone who riles them, who disagrees with them, who makes them mad.

The audacity to suggest that a Senator should lose his job for something he said (and then apologized for) is really fuc*ed up, you know?

Why is it that some people only want freedom of speech for people they agree with?
 
26 X World Champs said:
OK....how about the great Rick Santorum, Senator from Pennsylvania? This happened just 30 days ago, how'd you miss it when he said:

Source: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05140/507782.stm

Both sides are equally guilty of using Hitler and Nazis against each other. It's pointless to debate because both sides do it....

Nice move there Champ, but you took it out of context, one, if you look back, Robert "KKK" Byrd made an earlier utterance of a Hitler remark and Santorum clarified by stating that he made no remarks as a reference to Democrats, just a particular act on their part. Two, anyone who reads the whole article will see that there was no malice when Santorum said it, Durbin was obviously taking a cheap shot.
 
26 X World Champs said:
You think that he should "lose his job" for exercising his right to free speech? Kind of what you want to happen here too, isn't it?
No, he should lose his job for incompetance, among other things.

Should Frist lose his job for diagnosing Terry Schiavo by watching a videotape?
Why would that be the same thing? It doesn't really back your argument.

You know what? If the people in his state vote him out, then he will lost his job. That's how it works in America.
As well as impeachment, recalls, and deportation, but there are many ways to leave office. Besides, the Republican party wants to censure him which is basically a stern warning, it would be more of an embarrasment to him than anything else(although his statements should be embarrasing enough).

Some people on this board just want to censor anyone who riles them, who disagrees with them, who makes them mad.
Not really, but those who intentionally try to indoctrinate, offend, or otherwise engage in improper speech really have no place in politics.

The audacity to suggest that a Senator should lose his job for something he said (and then apologized for) is really fuc*ed up, you know?
Speech is for the most part protected, but not all of it is or should be, for instance, if a Democrat senator gets a copy of Pentagon plans and uses his speech to broadcast or otherwise disclose, he can not only be removed from office, but also punished severely. If a politician uses speech that does immediate, provable harm to another human being, same principle. With rights come responsibilities.

Why is it that some people only want freedom of speech for people they agree with?
A better question would be, why is it that when liberals are questioned about their opinions or challenged, they pull the censorship card or the victim card and start screaming about unfair treatment?
 
Champ posted.
You think that he should "lose his job" for exercising his right to free speech? Kind of what you want to happen here too, isn't it?
Durbin made a statement against our troops in a time of war on the floor of the US Senate. I have never kept anyone here from expressing their opinion unless they violated the rules of the site.
RULES

Should Frist lose his job for diagnosing Terry Schiavo by watching a videotape?
Frist didn’t and couldn’t do that, but should Trent Lott have lost his job because of something he said at a private party on his own time?

You know what? If the people in his state vote him out, then he will lost his job. That's how it works in America.
I agree with that and said so when the left drove Gingrich, Livingston, and Lott out of their positions.

Some people on this board just want to censor anyone who riles them, who disagrees with them, who makes them mad.
Some people want to attack and call people names too. Some people even make up stories to discredit others. Don’t ya hate when that happen?

The audacity to suggest that a Senator should lose his job for something he said (and then apologized for) is really fuc*ed up, you know?
I can’t argue with that one, Republicans always get railroaded because Trent Lott apoligized 5 times and it was never accepted by the left.

Why is it that some people only want freedom of speech for people they agree with?
I don’t have a clue.
 
26 X World Champs said:
You think that he should "lose his job" for exercising his right to free speech? Kind of what you want to happen here too, isn't it?
Does the name Trent Lott ring a bell?
 
Squawker:
"How come the world hates us?" "How come our troops are still getting killed?" Get a friggin clue.

:shock:
 
26 X World Champs said:
Originally Posted by Fantasea
Does the name Trent Lott ring a bell?
You buy into 2 wrongs make a right? Smart!
I merely point out the hypocracy involved whenever Democrats are concerned.

In the case of Trent Lott, words spoken in jest at a party for a retiring senator were used by the socialist-liberal-democrats and their media apologists to incessantly excoriate the man until he was driven from the office he held as Senate Majority Leader. The fact that he made public apologies at least five times was regarded as totally inconsequential and without redeeming value.

In the case of Senator Durbin, serious accusactions of misconduct of the administration's policies and practices made deliberately in the public forum of the US Senate and using comparisons to the vilest of tyrants, gave considerable aid and comfort to the enemies of this country. His actions were extremely heinous coming right on the heels of the discredited and retracted Isikoff story to which at least seventeen violent deaths have been attributed.

His apology, if anyone considers it such, was limited to those unnamed persons who may have been offended by his remarks; not for his having made the remarks.

Yet, the media offers no criticism of Senator Durbin.

In your mind these situations may be viewed as equal. Given your lopsided views on other topics, it is what I would expect.

However, it is your right to be as lopsided in your thinking as you choose, isn't it?
 
Fantasea said:
I merely point out the hypocracy involved whenever Democrats are concerned.
What a hoot coming from YOU! :lol:
Fantasea said:
In the case of Trent Lott, words spoken in jest at a party for a retiring senator were used by the socialist-liberal-democrats and their media apologists to incessantly excoriate the man until he was driven from the office he held as Senate Majority Leader.
You're an amnesia victim, I'm sorry. What did your here George Washington Bush say about Lott's (how did you put it? jest)
Friday, December 13, 2002 Posted: 12:15 AM EST (0515 GMT)

President Bush delivered a rare -- and stinging -- rebuke of a fellow Republican when he criticized Trent Lott's recent comments.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Thursday sharply rebuked incoming Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott for comments that some have called racist, saying any suggestion that segregation was acceptable is "offensive and it is wrong."
I guess Bush is wrong too? Ooops...I forgot, Bush can never be wrong, so therefore Lott did say offensive stuff about segregation....Right?
 
Great example on this topic tonight...

Anyone see Howard Dean on the Daily Show?

When you hear the man speak, versus in audio clips from the mainstream media, he's quite rational and PASSIONATE in his beliefs.

Something wrong with that?

Why doesn't Karl Roverer get the same mistreatment from the corporate t-v and radio outlets when he has a 'moment' (Such as Wednesday on liberals and 911, etc.)?
 
WHEN DID IT EVER LEAVE? Qoute "Liberals" have never missed a chance at Bush since the last election? Where did you cook up such an Idea that it had ever left :confused: ?
 
KNG

Anyone see Howard Dean on the Daily Show?
Yes, twice! John Stewart has repeatedly clamied to be "Not a member of a party" yet DNC Chairman Howard Dean can use his show, to destroy the GOP! John Stewart is as "Independent" as lets say "Bill Maher" of HBO. :mrgreen:

When you hear the man speak, versus in audio clips from the mainstream media, he's quite rational and PASSIONATE in his beliefs.Something wrong with that?
The only thing I've ever heard from him are his attacks to Bush, and GOP? Since when has becoming a "Hater" become a "Passion"? How is he rational by a "Kettle calling the pot BLACK!", he is not any better than anyone in the GOP trust me! So don't try to raise him on a pedistal to promote your own beliefs.

KNG Sig: If Christ were here there is one thing he would not be--a Christian. - Mark Twain
Well at least you pointed out you hate "Jesus", that must be a lift off your shoulders! Now, tell me? What is your philosophy of life?
 
KNG Sig: If Christ were here there is one thing he would not be--a Christian. - Mark Twain

Well at least you pointed out you hate "Jesus", that must be a lift off your shoulders! Now, tell me? What is your philosophy of life?
I don't 'hate' Jesus. Oh, I know there are web sites like http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ but I regularly attend Landover Baptist, 'Where the Worthwhile Worship,' http://www.landoverbaptist.org/

As for my personal philosophy, that's a tough one. There's much to consider, as this link points out: http://juris.0catch.com/

Guess it all depends which end of the telescope one looks through.
 
LaMidRighter said:
Now wait a minute, in the 60 years that the liberal wing of America has gained power, did they once ask a conservative how they felt about the ever growing federalization of this country, no, they shoved social change that displaced many American values down everyone's throats, forced people to comply using the rule of law, and did whatever they felt like doing. Short story long, why should conservatives then expend the time and energy to understand a point of view that did all of this to them? We are the majority, the minority is seeking to force us to do their will, and yet we are being selfish? We are not the ones whining about elections, we are not the ones trying to hold up the process, and we also are not the ones claiming a power we no longer have. Selfish? Hardly.

Thanks for summing up my point in one paragraph. Yes you ARE selfish beucase you care NOTHING but your own ends. Don't you agree that in a country with a population and culture as diverse as are We are BOUND to have some disagreements. you say Durbin is guilty of dirty politics.... and then comment (paraphrasing) on Guitonomo bay by saying "if you don't think thing like that don't go on you are kidding yourself" . Is that supposed to make it ok? And yes you DO lose out when things like that happen it lessens us morally.

aren't the conservatives upposed to be all about morals? That only seems to apply when someone is doing something you don't like. Dirty politics? kind of like conservatives passing out flyers that said "they will ban the bible" during election time.

You totally missed my point and only enforced my own belief that you are Shallow Selfish people. I shouldn't group you with the mass of conservatives so maybe i should just say YOU.

you only care about people unless they are the SAME as you or share your beliefs. So i guess i have come to the conclusion that The only way to "beat" your silly, Old thinking, intellectually lazy Group of people. Is to just do it the same way you guys did with this past election. By force.

Organized religion loses memebers Daily. This scares sooo many Right wingers because its the only thing you have to fall on, and to become a minority would be to become the very thing you now attack. So many of you need it to stand on because of lack of charecter, and fear of the world around you.

You people can consider this your last grab at power. Your mindset will NEVER be a longterm thing. Those that want to move foreward and carry our civilization into the future Will not be "conservative" because it isn't going to take "conservative" measure to get everything back on track. but don't worry We will do the cleanup work like we always do. We will hold your hand and let you know the world is flat. We will hold your hand and tell you slavery is wrong, We will hold your hand and tell you Black people should be able to vote too, We will hold your hand and show you gay marriage wont hurt your way of life. So go ahead and have your little fit , because all of us know how this works out in the end. Im just sick of those that need their way to be the only way.
 
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