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Liar and Thief

DaveFagan said:
A politician and a liar. What a coinky-dink, eh? Who'd a thunk it?
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exactly. since all people lie that makes it okay for a person, like Trump, to constantly lie. 1 lie = 1,000 lies. all people are the same.
 
Tbird19482 said:
And one more thing IF it was by Congressional districts back in 2016 Trump would not be President

A lot of the people that did vote did NOT have their vote counted because of the winner take all states BS
it is time to change this and make a Constitutional Amendment that makes the Electoral College realize that NOT every bodies vote is being counted.
again IF a state has 50.01% of it's people vote one way and it is a winner take all state the other 49.99% of the people that didn't vote for the person who got the 50.01 votes , their votes do NOT count , and that is because it is all about the " winner take all " BS
again I say this should be changed some way so every bodies vote counts
Have a nice night
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The US Constitution gives the States the power to determine how their electors to the Electoral College are chosen. Forty-Eight States (and DC) chose to give all of their Electoral College votes to the one candidate that receives the most popular votes. Two States (Maine and Nebraska) split their Electoral College votes proportional to the out-come of the State election. If the States decided tomorrow to abolish the popular vote for President and flip a coin to determine who to give their Electoral College votes they have that constitutional authority.

At no time should it ever be construed that the people determine the President. They don't, and they never have. The States, and only the States, determine who the next President will be and nobody else.
 
Glitch said:
The US Constitution gives the States the power to determine how their electors to the Electoral College are chosen. Forty-Eight States (and DC) chose to give all of their Electoral College votes to the one candidate that receives the most popular votes. Two States (Maine and Nebraska) split their Electoral College votes proportional to the out-come of the State election. If the States decided tomorrow to abolish the popular vote for President and flip a coin to determine who to give their Electoral College votes they have that constitutional authority.

At no time should it ever be construed that the people determine the President. They don't, and they never have. The States, and only the States, determine who the next President will be and nobody else.
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Yes that is right
what I am saying is under the way it is now there are a lot of peoples votes that don't matter
like I said under the way it is now you could have 50.01 % of a states voters vote for say a Republican and 49.9% for the Dem. so all the votes in the states go to the winner take all person and almost half the states voters have no say
this should be changed so every bodies voice is heard
Have a nice day
 
Tbird19482 said:
Yes that is right
what I am saying is under the way it is now there are a lot of peoples votes that don't matter
like I said under the way it is now you could have 50.01 % of a states voters vote for say a Republican and 49.9% for the Dem. so all the votes in the states go to the winner take all person and almost half the states voters have no say
this should be changed so every bodies voice is heard
Have a nice day
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You still don't get it. With regard to electing a President, nobodies votes matter other than the Electoral College.

The States should completely abolish the State popular vote for President. Maybe then it will sink in that the people's vote for President means absolutely NOTHING!

With regard to electing Presidents, only the will of each State legislature matters, not the vote of the people. The US is NOT a democracy.
 
Tbird19482 said:
My point is that say 50.01% people in a take all state vote vote Republican and 49.99% vote Dem. then all the Electoral College votes go for the Republican and the 49.99% that voted Dem don't count
This is unfair and it should be by Congressional district NOT by " winner take all "
They have to change this so every bodies vote counts
Have a nice day
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Talk to the state legislature. Two states elect by districts.

BTW Trump wins much bigger by districts.
 
"It doesn't feel like we are impeached".
- Trump -
For once he speaks truth. "WE" are not impeach YOU ARE!
The Senate mess will be a liars den of non facts by the gop.
 
St.johns 8.44
When telling lies are apart of your nature. You can't understand truth. Lies not a civil war will lead to the end of our so called union. The most powerful nation the world has ever known will destroy its self. Because of LIES.

SO SAD!
 
Tbird19482 said:
Problem is that most states are " winner take all states "
Now IF they would divide their Electoral college votes by Congregational districts and got rid of " winner take all states " every bodies vote would count
and that 40% you talk about would have their vote counted, but as of now it is not that way
ex. say NY had 27 CDs and 14 went Dem and 13 Rep. as it is now all 27 would go for the Dem and none for the Rep.
so almost half of the states voters are not being heard and their vote doesn't count.
in order to have every bodies vote count we have to get rid of " winner take all states " ( and that is almost all of them )
have a nice afternoon
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What you say is correct. It is more democratic to count everyone's vote towards the final decision. Winner takes all is undemocratic.

However that really only applies in a two horse race, if there were three candidates and none got more than 50%, the we have a problem. Do we make the 3rd lying candidate drop out and have a re-run like the do in France (in which case the winner is the least unpopular candidate) ?

Or simply retain the winner takes all mentality where someone polling 40% might win despite the remaining 60% hating him/her and their policies ?


I think the best option is for voters to rank their preferences, so in a 3 horse race it would be 3 points for a first choice vote, 2 points for a second choice etc.
 
Of course Trump is a liar and thief. I've known this obvious fact since the early 80s. One of my customers was a contractor who did work for the louse. His tactic, which he was starting to hone, was to hire small contractors to do jobs for him, then stiff them. If the poor guy tried to sue him, Trump would keep him in the court forever, knowing full well a small businessman couldn't afford the legal fees. If the poor souls who voted for him think he won't stiff them once he doesn't need them anymore, they a rude awakening in store, if he's reelected to a second term. Good bye Social Security. Goodbye Medicare. Good bye tax breaks. But then, they'll only be getting what they asked for. Remember this, Donald J. Trump is a con man above everything else and a con man's favorite expression is, "There's a sucker born every minute."
 
At the risk of being called out on rehashing an old joke:

Q: How do you know when Trump is lying ?
A: His lips are moving.
 
Rich2018 said:
At the risk of being called out on rehashing an old joke:

Q: How do you know when Trump is lying ?
A: His lips are moving.
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He just lied again about this Roger stone crap. Just pordon the guy and stop tweeting about it. SMH. Absolutely historical horrible president and administration and his supporters.
 
Rich2018 said:
A total clown

He is costing people their lives

He has no idea what to do and the virus' effectsa are leading him

He shutdown funding for the CDC in 2018

Now he's begged 60 tons of aid from Russia. No US president has even had to do that.
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And do you think his base cares?
 
Trump needs to leave the white house go golfing or something just take a vacation damn.
Really since this started when was the last time he went somewhere?
He going cuss a press member out soon in his latest tv show.
 
Can Trump use COVID-19 as an excuse to delay the November election ?

"As the coronavirus pandemic grinds much of the US economy to a halt, it is also playing havoc with the American democratic process during a national election year.
Primary contests have been delayed or disrupted, with in-person polling places closed and absentee balloting processes thrown into doubt. Politicians have engaged in contentious fights over the electoral process in legislatures and the courts.
In November voters are scheduled to head to the polls to select the next president, much of Congress and thousands of state-government candidates. But what could Election Day look like - or if it will even be held on schedule - is very much the subject of debate."



Coronavirus: Could Donald Trump delay the presidential election? - BBC News
 
Rich2018 said:
Can Trump use COVID-19 as an excuse to delay the November election ?

"As the coronavirus pandemic grinds much of the US economy to a halt, it is also playing havoc with the American democratic process during a national election year.
Primary contests have been delayed or disrupted, with in-person polling places closed and absentee balloting processes thrown into doubt. Politicians have engaged in contentious fights over the electoral process in legislatures and the courts.
In November voters are scheduled to head to the polls to select the next president, much of Congress and thousands of state-government candidates. But what could Election Day look like - or if it will even be held on schedule - is very much the subject of debate."



Coronavirus: Could Donald Trump delay the presidential election? - BBC News
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He can but want need to when you lie cheat and steal all the time this should be a very easy thing to pull off again... Only because unfortunately the Dems are just so damn weak.
 
Jaygodmedia said:
He can but want need to when you lie cheat and steal all the time this should be a very easy thing to pull off again... Only because unfortunately the Dems are just so damn weak.
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What makes the Democrats weak is that the Supreme Court, Senate and of course the White House is Republican dominated.
 
Trump is a punk.
 
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