Let's Define Our Terms

[AGENT J]

Advocacy groups use the umbrella because it's a good resource to help people understand that the old concept of transsexualism - typically middle aged MTF who had families and medically/surgically transitioned later in life, is not what is being discussed anymore. The umbrella shows a new understanding of the fact that transgender refers to anyone who defies sex/gender stereotypes.
Without the common understanding and agreement that there has been an enormous shift it's difficult to have a productive discussion.

maybe read the exchange slower so you can understand how my answer still stands and further grasp the factual mistake you are making and the confusion you are having
because again NOTHING you posted matters to the question i was asked and the answer i gave

here try again

-Question
Would you agree that the umbrella picture shared earlier in the thread is a good visual to help people understand?

-My ANswer:
no
i would suggest that if a person wants to "understand" they use medical science and or professional LGBT services sites like or similar to those I provided but there are others

-this answer confused you and i again stated
correct its not a good source to help people "understand" what transgender is



are you still confused?

 

[ProgressPlease]

maybe read the exchange slower so you can understand how my answer still stands and further grasp the factual mistake you are making and the confusion you are having
because again NOTHING you posted matters to the question i was asked and the answer i gave

here try again

-Question
Would you agree that the umbrella picture shared earlier in the thread is a good visual to help people understand?

-My ANswer:
no
i would suggest that if a person wants to "understand" they use medical science and or professional LGBT services sites like or similar to those I provided but there are others

-this answer confused you and i again stated
correct its not a good source to help people "understand" what transgender is



are you still confused?

And people say chivalry is dead.

 

[AGENT J]

And people say chivalry is dead.

not with me its not
Ill gladly talk anything through and explain anything and or discuss anything with anybody as long as I believe they are being genuine
if not then they get what they get

and as for the picture, i also think its horrible in general for many reasons, the picture alone gives no real info.

First many people dont know what those terms even are so the picture alone would do nothing for them

Second its way to general inclusive and inaccurate
- For example, there are plenty of people who have cross-dressed or would identify as such as well as would call themselves drag queens/kings that would NEVER identify themselves as transgender nor are they per medical science standards

Third how many people that are transgender would be ok with being called a transvestite, drag queen/king etc many certainly would not be

Umbrella as a term is used for sure but there are many versions of an umbrella "picture" and as shown above by themselves would not help to understand and could actually confuse a person even more