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Let the riots commence in Louisville in the killing of Breonna Taylor

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That's simple. Haven't you been paying attention??

They lied in several ways. For example:

  • -In the warrant, they claimed that the US Postal Inspector had been consulted, and had informed the LMPD that the suspect (an old boyfriend of Taylor) had been "receiving packages" at Taylor's address. We now KNOW, for a FACT, that the US Postal Inspector has stated, on the record, that he was NEVER consulted by the LMPD...and that there was NEVER any package sent to the suspect at Taylor's address.
  • -They claimed, without ANY evidence, that Taylor was a drug dealer and distributor. Taylor had no criminal record, no history of violence and worked as a nurse. Taylor's boyfriend, who lived with her, had no record and was starting a new job at the post office. "No Knock" and "Knock and Announce" warrants must BY LAW be predicated upon evidence that the suspects are violent or are likely to destroy evidence. The LMPD warrant presented no evidence that Taylor or her boyfriend were violent, nor that they were even likely to possess drugs.
The Castle Doctrine is predicated upon two key rulings by the USSC: the 1995 Wilson v. Arkansas case, and the 1997 Richards v. Wisconsin case.

The FACTS of the case are that the LMPD banged on the door for "30-45 seconds"....NOT enough time to meet the legal standards of "enough time for the occupants to answer the door peacefully and avoid the potential violence and destruction of property of a forced entry".

The FACTS of the case also reveal that the cops who busted through the door were PLAIN CLOTHES cops with NO identifying badges or garments...NOT uniformed officers. So when Taylor's boyfriend fired one shot at them, he was ABSOLUTELY within his rights to protect himself. That's why the Attempted 1st Degree Murder of an Officer charges were quickly and quietly dropped.

The FACTS also show that the LMPD tried to get Taylor's boyfriend to LIE and testify that his now-dead girlfriend was secretly a drug dealer.

Sorry, but anyone...ANYONE...still defending (or rationalizing) on behalf of the LMPD or the KY AG in the Breonna Taylor case....is just not very credible. The details are all out there by now, so it's odd to see anyone (even conservatives) still raising some of these bogus issues. There is really no defense for what the LMPD did to Taylor, regardless of anything the KY AG said yesterday. His press conference was just a disgrace.
please link your postal inspector stuff. I will have to reread the warrant again. You obviously have zeroexpereince as a lawyer or law enforcement because you do not understand applicable law.
 

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please link your postal inspector stuff.
Sure.

https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/louis...cle_f25bbc06-96e4-11ea-9371-97b341bd2866.html

And, for the record, there were 5 warrants issued, not 3.


You obviously have zeroexpereince as a lawyer or law enforcement because you do not understand applicable law.
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Don't flatter yourself. Clearly, one of us doesn't understand the applicable law. Read the links. Those are the applicable cases in question. There is no legal defense for what the LMPD did at Breonna Taylor's apartment that night.
 

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Sure.

https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/louis...cle_f25bbc06-96e4-11ea-9371-97b341bd2866.html

And, for the record, there were 5 warrants issued, not 3.



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Don't flatter yourself. Clearly, one of us doesn't understand the applicable law. Read the links. Those are the applicable cases in question. There is no legal defense for what the LMPD did at Breonna Taylor's apartment that night.
The police officer CONFIRMED Glover was “receiving mail” at 3003 #4”, why would he be getting mail there and was observed there as well?

 

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They indicted one officer of wanton endangerment and the two officers were not indicted for anything in the killing of Breonna Taylor . The wanton endangerment was for shooting into the apartment from outside. None were indicted for the killing Bronne Taylor. The officer charged with wanton endangerment could get as little as one year in jail. I suspect this is not what the community was expecting/hoping for and that there will be protests which could lead to more riots. I have written this before, stop killing unarmed black people and you will stop having riots.
It was an accident. Accidents happen, as tragic as they are. The police did not find black people to shoot. They had a warrant. They went in with the warrant and one officer was shot and they returned fire. That's all it was.
 

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Seems that you really have no point. You're just trying, mightily, to have your baseless personal opinions accepted as "the facts" for this discussion. Sorry, it's NOT simply a "matter of procedure". It's a standard, one that was by ALL accounts, not met. One of 12 witnesses says they heard the police announce themselves...and that guy says they said it only once. Everyone else, including Taylor's boyfriend, denied hearing anything....
The resident who reported hearing the police announce lived upstairs; had just gotten home from work; was wide awake, therefore he was the best person nearby to corroborated hearing the knock/announce. Other people in different stages of sleep / recline may not have heard anything, so their lack of hearing something only underscores the fact that they may not have been awake to hear the knock.

The FACT is that they already KNEW they had the suspect in custody, and that Taylor was a first-responder with no criminal record at all. They already KNEW (based on cell phone and GPS records) that Taylor had NOT been in contact with her ex-boyfriend.
Her being a "first responder" does not automatically disqualify her as possibly being a criminal. The fact they may have had one person in custody does not mean there isn't more evidence out there. Investigators seek MORE evidence, and then will keep what sticks, or toss what doesn't. But they already had probable cause to go into that home with a warrant.

Criminal investigations are not a court of law where the suspect is assumed innocent. The opposite is how it works with the police, suspects are assumed likely to be guilty until evidence clears them, or there is no evidence found to continue to suspect them. Taylor's home had been staked out and her ex boyfriend (convicted drug dealer) was seen at the home. So the HOME then becomes the subject of investigation and what may be in the home. Look up probable cause.

They already KNEW (from the postal inspection police service) ZERO packages had been delivered to/from Taylor's address from/to her ex-boyfriend. So there was ZERO justification to serve a 1 a.m. "no knock" or "knock and announce" warrant on Breonna Taylor.
The investigators are not under any obligation to not see for themselves. Again, clearly you have no concept of how criminal investigations work.

Again, this is just ignorance on your part. You don't know what you're talking about. You can't seem to differentiate between your feelings/opinions, and objective FACTS; ...
Announcing/knocking before breaching the door with a warrant is in fact a procedural "dot the eye". If you really think the announcement is the priority of the police coming in with a battering ram and it means that if someone answers first the cops aren't still going to break the door down....again, you don't know how these things work.

More b.s. speculation disguised as "logic", I suppose. But the FACT is that Taylor's boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, was NOT "involved in any illegal activities". He was COMPLETELY within his rights to defend himself (and Breonna) from intruders who did not effectively announce themselves ... That's why the LMPD dropped all charges.
Again, probable cause had already been established. Don't like it, complain to the supreme court, they have decided many cases on how "the rules" work.

Neither Breonna, nor her boyfriend EVER sold drugs. She's dead. He was charged with "1st degree murder" for attempting to defend himself when the police wrongly charged (unnancounced) through the door at 1 am iin the morning.
The legal standard for innocence in a courtroom is not the same as "factual evidence of guilt of innocence" in an investigation. Legally O.J. Simpson did not murder his wife. Factually he did.

The FACT that we KNOW that before dropping all charges against Taylor's boyfriend (Ken Walker), the LMPD offered reduce the charge if Walker would LIE and say that his dead girlfriend was secretly a drug dealer.....says ALL we need to know about which side is to be believed in this case.
Not lie, cooperate.

Taylor made poor life choices. Her ex boyfriend was a drug dealer, and she maintained friendly relationship with him, and at least may have let him in her home on occasion. SHE did this to HERSELF. Whether she was dirty--or just stupid.... it ended up where it ended up. Not saying she was a bad person, but you can't blame the police for firing back when they are being shot at. Their actions were within the laws. Don't like those laws, then lobby to change them. Good luck!
 

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Only idiots support rioting.
And only fascists refuse to draw a distinction between those committing crimes and those who are protesting peacefully.
 

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Right wingers trying to retroactively convict Breonna Taylor of a crime. ****ing monsters.
 

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Because an innocent Black woman was murdered and not a single person was charged in any way with the destruction of her body. Like her life didn’t even matter.
The lives of the neighbors mattered enough to charge someone for puncturing their drywall. It was a crime to so recklessly fire shots that penetrated into their homes. Why, those bullets could have hit someone!
 

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The police officer CONFIRMED Glover was “receiving mail” at 3003 #4”, why would he be getting mail there and was observed there as well?

This claim was proven fraudulent. The postal employee supposedly consulted says they weren't actually consulted.
 

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The police officer CONFIRMED Glover was “receiving mail” at 3003 #4”, why would he be getting mail there and was observed there as well?

You're not keeping up.

He lied on the warrant. That's what the US Postal Inspector confirmed.

He claimed that "fact" (about Taylor's former boyfriend "receiving mail at 3003 #4") on the basis of direct consultation with the US Postal Inspector....the same person who states, categorically, that NO such consultation was ever requested, much less conducted.

It was a lie. And both the LMPD and the KY AG were/are aware of that. That's why all charges (including the "attempted murder of a police officer") were dropped against Taylor's boyfriend (who shot the first plain-clothes cop who busted through the door).

And now, they are refusing to release the ballistics reports, which would have ZERO impact on any other ongoing investigations.

This is going to all blow up, big time, in the faces of both the LMPD and the KY AG (who is a 38 year old political appointee who has NEVER even tried a criminal case in court before).

Watch, and remember we had this conversation. This one is not even a hard call. If Trump and Barr are out in Jan 2021, this case is going to end a few careers of a few GOP'ers in the Commonwealth of Kentucky.
 

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The resident who reported hearing the police announce lived upstairs; had just gotten home from work; was wide awake, therefore he was the best person nearby to corroborated hearing the knock/announce. Other people in different stages of sleep / recline may not have heard anything, so their lack of hearing something only underscores the fact that they may not have been awake to hear the knock.
:LOL:
You're really grasping at straws, now. First, that same man also said they only announced themselves ONE TIME. I suggest you educated yourself about the protocol for a "knock and announce". 30 seconds of knocking is not enough. Saying "Police", on time...ONE TIME...is not enough. Not in ANY police department in the freaking country. Good luck trying to make your argument in court...if the family ever gets their day in court, that is.

Come on, now. Do better.

Her being a "first responder" does not automatically disqualify her as possibly being a criminal. The fact they may have had one person in custody does not mean there isn't more evidence out there. Investigators seek MORE evidence, and then will keep what sticks, or toss what doesn't. But they already had probable cause to go into that home with a warrant.
Again, you're just making shit up as you go along. You have an ideological agenda that you're trying to satisfy, facts be damned.

The FACT is that there was ZERO evidence for a no-knock, or knock-and-announce warrant. They LIED on the application. We know this, as a matter of FACT. I've been through this already.

And you're just flat lying when you claim there was "probable cause" for the warrant. You and I both know you can't back that up. It's a lie, and you know it. ALL of the evidence shows there was, in FACT, ZERO "probable cause" for the warrant. Both people had CLEAN criminal records. There were no packages being delivered to the address (that was a LIE). There was no on-going contact with the suspect (that was also a LIE). Neither had any history of violence (as suggested in the warrant)...that was a LIE. There was ZERO cause for a search warrant of any kind, much less a no-knock.

Criminal investigations are not a court of law where the suspect is assumed innocent. The opposite is how it works with the police, suspects are assumed likely to be guilty until evidence clears them, or there is no evidence found to continue to suspect them.
Perhaps in your native Russia?

Not in America. Not EVER. This is just plain ridiculous.

Taylor's home had been staked out and her ex boyfriend (convicted drug dealer) was seen at the home. So the HOME then becomes the subject of investigation and what may be in the home. Look up probable cause.
Again, this is a LIE. And an old lie, at that. Taylor's ex-boyfriend had NOT been at her apartment. You've been reading too many conservative "news" sources, obviously.


Announcing/knocking before breaching the door with a warrant is in fact a procedural "dot the eye". If you really think the announcement is the priority of the police coming in with a battering ram and it means that if someone answers first the cops aren't still going to break the door down....again, you don't know how these things work.
Again, you're projecting. In the reality-based word, it's you who clearly doesn't know how "these things work". Ask ANY police sergeant or trainer, and you'll learn just how clueless you area about this. Your personal opinions are NOT facts, regardless of how much sense you may think they make.

This is just pure nonsense. Every word of it.
 

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Again, probable cause had already been established. Don't like it, complain to the supreme court, they have decided many cases on how "the rules" work.
This is a lie. No probable cause was established. Period. Stop lying, it's not working for you.

And the USSC cases have already been posted here in this thread...by me. Why don't rightwingers like to READ??!!

So again, this is just an ignorant argument that you and I BOTH know you can't back up. There was no "probable cause". There were only a couple of LIES on the warrant. Every justification given on the warrant has been discredited. Every. Single. One. And it really doesn't matter if you are ready to accept that FACT, or not.

Have you even ready the documents in question? It appears that your arguments come from conservative media...or just your imagination.


The legal standard for innocence in a courtroom is not the same as "factual evidence of guilt of innocence" in an investigation. Legally O.J. Simpson did not murder his wife. Factually he did.
:LOL::LOL:
WTF is this? There is no such standard as "factual evidence of guilty of innocence". You keep pulling stuff out of your hind parts, and hoping for people to accept it.

Stop, already. You're making a fool of yourself.

Not lie, cooperate.

Taylor made poor life choices. Her ex boyfriend was a drug dealer, and she maintained friendly relationship with him, and at least may have let him in her home on occasion. SHE did this to HERSELF. Whether she was dirty--or just stupid.... it ended up where it ended up. Their actions were within the laws.
The ignorance and hypocrisy of white conservatives...

As far as we knew, Taylor actually made GREAT life choices...except for dating one person who turned out to be a drug dealing (allegedly). And since he was in her past, and she was not in contact with him...that's irrelevant to the case. The cops and the KY AG understood this, because they tried desperately to get Taylor's boyfriend to LIE and testify that Breonna really was a drug dealer, even though no drugs were found at their apartment. To the boyfriend's credit, he rejected that dirty deal from the cops. And they were forced to drop all charges against him. But make no mistake, they KNOW they are in trouble. This isn't over, as long as the feds remain involved.

Breonna was an educated professional. No criminal record. She was murdered by rouge cops...one with a long history of misconduct (having been fired from 2 police forces previously), and who ACTUALLY made poor life choices.
 

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You're not keeping up.

He lied on the warrant. That's what the US Postal Inspector confirmed.

He claimed that "fact" (about Taylor's former boyfriend "receiving mail at 3003 #4") on the basis of direct consultation with the US Postal Inspector....the same person who states, categorically, that NO such consultation was ever requested, much less conducted.

It was a lie. And both the LMPD and the KY AG were/are aware of that. That's why all charges (including the "attempted murder of a police officer") were dropped against Taylor's boyfriend (who shot the first plain-clothes cop who busted through the door).

And now, they are refusing to release the ballistics reports, which would have ZERO impact on any other ongoing investigations.

This is going to all blow up, big time, in the faces of both the LMPD and the KY AG (who is a 38 year old political appointee who has NEVER even tried a criminal case in court before).

Watch, and remember we had this conversation. This one is not even a hard call. If Trump and Barr are out in Jan 2021, this case is going to end a few careers of a few GOP'ers in the Commonwealth of Kentucky.
Jesus dude what you want to believe is different than the facts. They didn’t lie they asked to confirm their own observations.
you are all over the place and it is annoying.
 

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You're not keeping up.

He lied on the warrant. That's what the US Postal Inspector confirmed.

He claimed that "fact" (about Taylor's former boyfriend "receiving mail at 3003 #4") on the basis of direct consultation with the US Postal Inspector....the same person who states, categorically, that NO such consultation was ever requested, much less conducted.

It was a lie. And both the LMPD and the KY AG were/are aware of that. That's why all charges (including the "attempted murder of a police officer") were dropped against Taylor's boyfriend (who shot the first plain-clothes cop who busted through the door).

And now, they are refusing to release the ballistics reports, which would have ZERO impact on any other ongoing investigations.

This is going to all blow up, big time, in the faces of both the LMPD and the KY AG (who is a 38 year old political appointee who has NEVER even tried a criminal case in court before).

Watch, and remember we had this conversation. This one is not even a hard call. If Trump and Barr are out in Jan 2021, this case is going to end a few careers of a few GOP'ers in the Commonwealth of Kentucky.
If he lied on the warrant why hasn’t he been charged?
 

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You're really grasping at straws, now. First, that same man also said they only announced themselves ONE TIME.
Yeah, they fulfilled the bare minimum--- easy peasy. Then they knocked the door down, its what they may do.

I suggest you educated yourself about the protocol for a "knock and announce".
The state attorney general found no violation of the law in the manner which the police agency effected the warrant. Try to pay attention.

30 seconds of knocking is not enough. Saying "Police", on time...ONE TIME...is not enough. Not in ANY police department in the freaking country.
All you are offering now is your opinion on that, your "Christmas wish list". Well sorry, like they say, "you can wish in one hand and s*** in the other." The police in this case did not violate any 4th Amendment protections as they are currently defined.

Good luck trying to make your argument in court...if the family ever gets their day in court, that is.
The court case will only consider if the 3rd officer used unreasonable force while attempting to defend the first two officers. If it gets that far he will NOT found guilty of any crime, so you had best begin to set your expectation correctly.

Again, you're just making shit up as you go along. You have an ideological agenda that you're trying to satisfy, facts be damned.
You are only reacting emotionally. I have NO PRO POLICE AGENDA. In fact, I have a lot of issues with how the government has consistently watered down our 4th Amendment protections. Terry stops, DUI checkpoints, immigration check points, "welfare checks", pretext traffic stops. Your problem is that you can't compute the FACT that in this case the police followed a legal procedure. As I already said, don't like the laws, then lobby to change the laws. But none of that will bring back Breonna Taylor so stop whining.

The FACT is that there was ZERO evidence for a no-knock, or knock-and-announce warrant. They LIED on the application. We know this, as a matter of FACT. I've been through this already.
Again, you don't understand the game. It isn't difficult for the police to get a warrant. If they lied on the application that is a matter for the attorney general's office to look into, or possibly the FBI if the charge is that this is a violation of equal protection. But that isn't where this is right now. She's dead, her boyfriend shot at the police. It's done.

And you're just flat lying when you claim there was "probable cause" for the warrant. You and I both know you can't back that up. It's a lie, and you know it.
Police (the government) can find probable cause with very little effort, it all depends on how they articulate it in the application. They see a known drug dealer picking up packages they already have reasonable suspicion. They catch that guy with drugs somewhere else and arrest him, now they have probable cause to get a warrant to look into the house he has been seen getting other packages from. This isn't hard to figure out, it's all right there.

ALL of the evidence shows there was, in FACT, ZERO "probable cause" for the warrant. Both people had CLEAN criminal records. There were no packages being delivered to the address (that was a LIE). There was no on-going contact with the suspect (that was also a LIE). Neither had any history of violence....
Then that would be a good thing to bring up on appeal in the event someone were convicted. But this isn't going there anyway at this point. It's done. Moot.

Perhaps in your native Russia?
Prosecutors are under no constitutional requirement to prove the innocence of anyone, that isn't how this system works. They have to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. And cops especially are not tasked with proving innocence; they investigate crimes. Maybe you need to educate yourself on how the criminal justice system works. Do that and then you may begin to have adult expectations about how these outcomes unfold after the fact. You are like a baseball fan angry at the winning opposing team's pitcher because he didn't throw anything your team could hit and the whining about how it wasn't fair. Educate yourself on our system, and then if you want to be upset, be upset at the laws or procedures which give power to the government to investigate citizens at almost freewill.


Not in America. Not EVER. This is just plain ridiculous.
You haven't been paying attention.
 

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This claim was proven fraudulent. The postal employee supposedly consulted says they weren't actually consulted.
You understand they simply confirmed he uses the address to receive Mail. He doesn’t live there and never did, thus one more example of the use of other residences to deceive law enforcement.
 

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This is a lie. No probable cause was established. Period. Stop lying, it's not working for you.
A judge will not sign out a warrant without probable cause. The officers had a warrant.

And the USSC cases have already been posted here in this thread...by me. Why don't rightwingers like to READ??!!
Let me help you out, read this (4th Amendement to the constitution):

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

The officers had a search warrant. They had probable cause to search for drugs. I suggest you keep reading in your spare time, you may learn some things.

So again, this is just an ignorant argument that you and I BOTH know you can't back up. There was no "probable cause".
Sorry that you are too thick to grasp this, but Taylor's ex boyfriend coming to her house and picking up packages, then driving to a known drug house; Taylor's car being at that drug house on other occasions; her continued relationship with a known drug dealer under investigation..... all leads to probable cause.

There were only a couple of LIES on the warrant. Every justification given on the warrant has been discredited. Every. Single. One. And it really doesn't matter if you are ready to accept that FACT, or not.
She is dead, a moth flying too close to the flame.

Have you even ready the documents in question? It appears that your arguments come from conservative media...or just your imagination.
LOL! Since when are the Washington Post and the NYT considered "conservative"?

WTF is this? There is no such standard as "factual evidence of guilty of innocence". You keep pulling stuff out of your hind parts, and hoping for people to accept it.
I was attempting to explain to you the difference between legal innocence and factual innocence. You like to read, go ahead and look it up.


The ignorance and hypocrisy of white conservatives...
So, then this is a race thing for you? How boringly typical.

As far as we knew, Taylor actually made GREAT life choices...except for dating one person who turned out to be a drug dealing (allegedly).
Uhm.... and continuing a relationship with him....duh!!!

Breonna was an educated professional. No criminal record.
Yet not apprently bright enough to disassociate from a known prior convicted drug dealer-- or not let him in her house.

She was murdered by rouge cops...
Murder: Unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought.

DIDN'T HAPPEN. Her killing was not unlawful, and was not with malice. It wasn't murder, not even manslaughter. She died when officer were returning fire to defend their lives. Not unlawful.

You need to keep reading those books LOL! You are not passing the test.
 

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As always, alt-right/far-rightwing white dudes are quick to demonstrate how ignorant they are about racism.
I'm black, but thanks for that nice snippet of bigotry.
 

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Jesus dude what you want to believe is different than the facts. They didn’t lie they asked to confirm their own observations.
you are all over the place and it is annoying.
This is clearly projection on your part.

The FACTS are EXACTLY as I have detailed them. And you know it.

The FACT is that the LMPD lied on the warrant. This is old news, and is not debatable. They claimed in the warrant application that they had worked directly with the Postal Inspector to confirm that Breonna Taylor was receiving packages for the drug dealer at her home address. That was a LIE. The postal inspector testified that the LMPD was never in contact with him, at any point. They also misrepresented times on the warrant and their police reports. They also claimed that Breonna's purse contained multiple letters from the drug dealer, which was also a lie (no such letters exist, according the the LMPD itself).

So it's clear that one of us is projecting and lying/conflating about the basic facts. Your problem is.......it's you. And I think you know that.

If he lied on the warrant why hasn’t he been charged?
Is this a serious question?

Why hasn't he been charged by the same LMPD and KY AG who have been less than honest (and, in several cases, just LIED) throughout the entire process?

The simple answer: Corruption on the part of the LMPD and the KY AG. These are, after all, the same entities that we KNOW attempted to convince the boyfriend of the woman killed by their corruption and recklessness to LIE about her and testify that she was secretly a drug dealer. These are also the SAME entities who claimed there were no body cameras during on the 3 cops...yet we now know there are at least 50 body cam videos of various parts of the incident. Seems that everyone BUT the 3 officers on the raid was wearing his body cam that night....at least, if you believe the LMPD and the KY AG, that is. And at this point, anyone who still believes them is a fool (at best).





https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...olice-lied-times-acted-stale-info/5382608002/
 

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This is clearly projection on your part.

The FACTS are EXACTLY as I have detailed them. And you know it.

The FACT is that the LMPD lied on the warrant. This is old news, and is not debatable. They claimed in the warrant application that they had worked directly with the Postal Inspector to confirm that Breonna Taylor was receiving packages for the drug dealer at her home address. That was a LIE. The postal inspector testified that the LMPD was never in contact with him, at any point. They also misrepresented times on the warrant and their police reports. They also claimed that Breonna's purse contained multiple letters from the drug dealer, which was also a lie (no such letters exist, according the the LMPD itself).

So it's clear that one of us is projecting and lying/conflating about the basic facts. Your problem is.......it's you. And I think you know that.


Is this a serious question?

Why hasn't he been charged by the same LMPD and KY AG who have been less than honest (and, in several cases, just LIED) throughout the entire process?

The simple answer: Corruption on the part of the LMPD and the KY AG. These are, after all, the same entities that we KNOW attempted to convince the boyfriend of the woman killed by their corruption and recklessness to LIE about her and testify that she was secretly a drug dealer. These are also the SAME entities who claimed there were no body cameras during on the 3 cops...yet we now know there are at least 50 body cam videos of various parts of the incident. Seems that everyone BUT the 3 officers on the raid was wearing his body cam that night....at least, if you believe the LMPD and the KY AG, that is. And at this point, anyone who still believes them is a fool (at best).





https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...olice-lied-times-acted-stale-info/5382608002/
Eh I wouldn’t put all of your stock on their lawyer.
 

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Yeah, they fulfilled the bare minimum--- easy peasy. Then they knocked the door down, its what they may do. The state attorney general found no violation of the law in the manner which the police agency effected the warrant. Try to pay attention.
And now we know that that one witness (of the 12), changed his story. Originally, he (like the other 11) testified that he did NOT hear any announcement. After months of coercsion, he flipped his story 180 degrees and claimed that he heard one warning. The more we learn, the worse this gets for the young KY AG. Grand Jury tapes/transcripts will soon be released (against his will), forcing him to admit yesterday that he never even presented a single murder, homicide, wrongful/negligent death option for the grand jury

But still, your ignorance and blind allegiance is duly noted.

The court case will only consider if the 3rd officer used unreasonable force while attempting to defend the first two officers. If it gets that far he will NOT found guilty of any crime, so you had best begin to set your expectation correctly.
What a stupid comment. You have no idea what a potential court case would consider. You, like many of your ilk, can't seem to differentiate your feelings from actual facts.

You are only reacting emotionally.
:rolleyes: You are projecting. There are no emotions required in pointing out ignorant remarks. What we're seeing is obfuscation, on your part. If you could back up your opinions with facts, you'd have done so by now. You won't, because you can't. And I think we both know that, now don't we?

I have NO PRO POLICE AGENDA.
Strawman. I've neither stated, nor suggested any such thing. You are someone who doesn't understand the law. And I don't care about your anti-government views. You are an ideologue. You believe in "liberal" facts and "conservative" facts.

Again, you don't understand the game. It isn't difficult for the police to get a warrant. If they lied on the application that is a matter for the attorney general's office to look into, or possibly the FBI if the charge is that this is a violation of equal protection. But that isn't where this is right now. She's dead, her boyfriend shot at the police. It's done.
LOL, what do you know about "the game"? You keep making things up as you go along. Is that part of "the game", too? I think you are much like your Dear Leader, Trump.

But, this case isn't over, by a long shot. You'll see that, and you'll be quiet about it. Remember I said it.

Prosecutors are under no constitutional requirement to prove the innocence of anyone, that isn't how this system works.
And...?

Another Strawman. Of course, I've neither , nor implied, any such thing. I can only surmise that you create your own arguments because you are so utterly defenseless against mine. LOL

Sorry that you are too thick to grasp this, but Taylor's ex boyfriend coming to her house and picking up packages, then driving to a known drug house; Taylor's car being at that drug house on other occasions; her continued relationship with a known drug dealer under investigation..... all leads to probable cause.
🤣Another FauxNews argument. You're hilarious. You people are so predictable.

Of course, in the REALITY based world, EVERYONE is aware that this is just one of the LIES told by the cops on the search warrant. They claimed they worked directly with the Postal Inspector to confirm that the ex-boyfriend was having packaged delivered to Breonna's apartment. That was a LIE. The Postal Inspector in now on record saying that the LMPD never even contacted him, much less "worked" with him on the Breonna case. Furthermore, he stated that, after examination of ALL of the mail delivered to Breonna's apartment, there were ZERO suspicious packages delivered to her during the time frame in question. That's when the LMPD was forced to admit that they NEVER actually had any surveillance evidence of the ex-boyfriend visiting Breonna's apartment and leaving with packages.

I was attempting to explain to you the difference between legal innocence and factual innocence.
LOL, you were attempting to pass "factually evidence of guilt" as a legal concept. Again, it's clear that you are about as familiar with legal concepts as with astrophysics.

Uhm.... and continuing a relationship with him....duh!!!
Another fact-free right-wing talking point that you know you can't back up. It's your style, obviously.
 
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