Legislative Scandal Story Breaking

[RightinNYC]

I drop that there were any legal variances in the two. However I do not drop that there still remains a difference between the two 16 and 18 are still quite varied.

I don't disagree with you here.

Also, how does democratic legislature have anything to do with it?

Just pre-empting any further claims that this is the fault of the Republicans by stating a fact as to who you should direct your anger re: that age at.

California, NY both democratic heavy states, both require consenting age to be 18. That argument is neither here nor there in any validity.

Well, NY is 17, but your point still stands.

 

[tecoyah]

Obviously....we are in a heated election cycle, and both disfuctional parties are sweeping out the perverbial closet. Any one wonder about the Sh!t that actually matters, you know.....America?

I am so sick of the attacks from both sides, its a total waste of time, at a point where we all should be concerned about far more serious issues. Two Countries are in the process of developing Nuclear weapons.....and we bitch about whos F@cking Who.......we deserve everything we get if this is the state of our union.

 

[Napoleon's Nightingale]

So, now that you're aware that Foley broke no law in his actions, I'm assuming you'll drop your line of attack claiming that there's a difference between the situations and instead agree that in both cases, the persons involved should have resigned simply because their actions broke ethical codes.

Foley did break the law in his actions. He offered alcohol to a minor in an attempt to bait him into his home and I would also investigate Foley for sexual harrasment since the pages were being warned when they began working for Foley that he had a tendency to make sexual advances towards male pages. The difference between these two cases is that, although both were of the age of consent, at least one of the pages Foley was after did NOT consent to Foley's sexual advances. I do agree that both should have resigned because their actions broke ethical codes.

 

[RightinNYC]

Foley did break the law in his actions. He offered alcohol to a minor in an attempt to bait him into his home and I would also investigate Foley for sexual harrasment since the pages were being warned when they began working for Foley that he had a tendency to make sexual advances towards male pages. The difference between these two cases is that, although both were of the age of consent, at least one of the pages Foley was after did NOT consent to Foley's sexual advances. I do agree that both should have resigned because their actions broke ethical codes.

I was referring to the larger issue by saying he broke no law, but it is true that his offer of alcohol was illegal. There have been no allegations that any of Foley's actions occurred while any of the pages were actually still pages, which makes the sexual harassment claim dubious.

 

[Napoleon's Nightingale]

There have been no allegations that any of Foley's actions occurred while any of the pages were actually still pages, which makes the sexual harassment claim dubious.

Pages were being warned prior to their participation in the program that Foley tended to make sexual advances towards male pages. That suggests that sexual harrasment was occuring hence why I think it should be investigated.

 

[FallingPianos]

Well the democrats saw blood in the water and jumped all over it.......

its not like the republicans were happy about it either, but you are correct that the democrats took advantage of it.

however, by focusing on the left, instead of the actual issue, you are only continuing the cycle of blame and partisanship.

 

[tryreading]

Soth Dakota State Democratic Senator accused of wrongdoing with and 18 year old page..........The hypocrisy of the left strikes again......:

http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/

18 October 2006

The South Dakota Attorney General's Office and Senate leaders are investigating allegations of wrongdoing involving a state lawmaker and an 18-year-old legislative page, officials confirmed Tuesday.

The father of a former page has accused Sen. Dan Sutton, D-Flandreau, of misconduct during the last legislative session, according to state Sen. Garry Moore.

Only allegations so far-nothing has been proven. The story is kind of curious, though:

Butler says Wiese asked for a criminal investigation of Sutton. At the same time he was asking for Sutton's endorsement, asking Sutton for campaign contributions, and endorsing Sutton's run for Senate.

http://www.ksfy.com/Stories/Story.cfm?SID=8610
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15324000/

 

[RightinNYC]

Pages were being warned prior to their participation in the program that Foley tended to make sexual advances towards male pages. That suggests that sexual harrasment was occuring hence why I think it should be investigated.

I'm not saying it shouldn't be investigated, but I think you're drawing that conclusion erroneously. Everything I've seen so far has said that all his inappropriate contact occurred after the pages left the program. It's quite possible that he was simply the creepy old guy when they were in the program, but waited until they left to become the creepy old guy who tries to get you to do sketchy things. Sketchy either way, but still...

 

[Spencer Collins]

Where's the hypocrisy? 18 yearold and 16 year old are very very different for one - legality. And finally he's condemned for doing so as well. The only hypocrisy thus far is your continued call for responsibilities and honesty while you do not condemn racism, pedophillia and corruption of any one who's a republican.

Well said...they do not practice what they preach!

 

[26 X World Champs]

:rofl

Could not have said it any better. You would think a guy with 90 grand in his freezer would step down as well.:roll:

Jefferson is a scum dog! He should be gone! What I am confused by is why he has not been arrested and charged? What is taking the Justice Dept. so long to bust him?

 

[jfuh]

Just pre-empting any further claims that this is the fault of the Republicans by stating a fact as to who you should direct your anger re: that age at.

I see, but you should know from my 5K posts by now that I don't exactly hold the democrats to the highest moral values either. They're simply the flip side of the same dirty coin.