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I'm in my early 50s. I'm not necessarily new on the political scene. I've seen a bit going back 3 to 4 decades.
It seems to me that leaks and anonymous sources have been part of the media/politics dance since even before I became aware. So, why all the seeming outrage over them today and trying to pin the blame for it on one person/side or the other?
:shrug:
I'm in my early 50s. I'm not necessarily new on the political scene. I've seen a bit going back 3 to 4 decades.
It seems to me that leaks and anonymous sources have been part of the media/politics dance since even before I became aware. So, why all the seeming outrage over them today and trying to pin the blame for it on one person/side or the other?
:shrug:
I'm in my early 50s. I'm not necessarily new on the political scene. I've seen a bit going back 3 to 4 decades.
It seems to me that leaks and anonymous sources have been part of the media/politics dance since even before I became aware. So, why all the seeming outrage over them today and trying to pin the blame for it on one person/side or the other?
:shrug:
I'm in my early 50s. I'm not necessarily new on the political scene. I've seen a bit going back 3 to 4 decades.
It seems to me that leaks and anonymous sources have been part of the media/politics dance since even before I became aware. So, why all the seeming outrage over them today and trying to pin the blame for it on one person/side or the other?
:shrug:
It is mostly because practically all news about the trump admin has been anonymouse sources, some get forgotten fast, others get straight up debunked. The 3 msm outlets using them are cnn, ny times and washington post, they have seemed to decided to run everything and anything without verifying it in the slightest.
Those media outlets need to read the boy who cried wolf, too much of it is fake crap trying to attack trumps presidency, but if someone with info like deepthroat comes along against trump, by that time no one would believe him as everyone anonymouse since trump has taken office has been less factual and much more high school girls bathroom gossip.
It is mostly because practically all news about the trump admin has been anonymouse sources, some get forgotten fast, others get straight up debunked. The 3 msm outlets using them are cnn, ny times and washington post, they have seemed to decided to run everything and anything without verifying it in the slightest.
Those media outlets need to read the boy who cried wolf, too much of it is fake crap trying to attack trumps presidency, but if someone with info like deepthroat comes along against trump, by that time no one would believe him as everyone anonymouse since trump has taken office has been less factual and much more high school girls bathroom gossip.
I'm in my early 50s. I'm not necessarily new on the political scene. I've seen a bit going back 3 to 4 decades.
It seems to me that leaks and anonymous sources have been part of the media/politics dance since even before I became aware. So, why all the seeming outrage over them today and trying to pin the blame for it on one person/side or the other?
:shrug:
I'm in my early 50s. I'm not necessarily new on the political scene. I've seen a bit going back 3 to 4 decades.
It seems to me that leaks and anonymous sources have been part of the media/politics dance since even before I became aware. So, why all the seeming outrage over them today and trying to pin the blame for it on one person/side or the other?
:shrug:
I'm in my early 50s. I'm not necessarily new on the political scene. I've seen a bit going back 3 to 4 decades.
It seems to me that leaks and anonymous sources have been part of the media/politics dance since even before I became aware. So, why all the seeming outrage over them today and trying to pin the blame for it on one person/side or the other?
:shrug:
This is not a neatly packaged issue. Leaks are a problem. That said, if it were not for leaks a foreign agent would be in charge of our National Security apparatus to this day.
The leaks of unmasked American citizens are more than just a problem, theyre illegal and Flynns alledged involment with foriegn govts doesnt justify his losing his rights as a American citizen
Also the motivation behind the leaks is purely Political
Yeah, actually it kind of does. A foreign agent in charge of our national security apparatus is a lot worse than that fact being leaked to us. If you don't agree then, simply put, you don't think national security is important.
So you dont think the FBI or Intel agencies can do their jobs without the illegal leaks of unmasked American citzens ?
And as far as Flynn is concerned why dont we wait for the investigaion to conclude before assesing his guilt or innocence ?
If you are a lowly white house staffer who has got some juicy information, but doesn't necessarily want to come clean in fear of losing your job and getting thrown out on the street, your name getting flung through the mud so that you can never find another job in politics again, or at least in however many years the guy you supposedly made look bad is in office with his cronies. Why wouldn't you talk about it? This also can be done if you don't necessarily like your boss or at least your immediate boss too. Obviously, not everyone in every administration is loyal to their boss. Otherwise we would have a feudal system and not a democracy.
The NYT and WaPo (and to a lesser extent CNN) have NEVER been so indispensable to American freedom as they are today.
They are doing a wonderful job and deserve the praise of every American patriot.
Those who disagree and seek to malign our free press are easily (and rightfully) dismissed.
I'm in my early 50s. I'm not necessarily new on the political scene. I've seen a bit going back 3 to 4 decades.
It seems to me that leaks and anonymous sources have been part of the media/politics dance since even before I became aware. So, why all the seeming outrage over them today and trying to pin the blame for it on one person/side or the other?
:shrug:
The problem is not that they are anonymouse, it is that practically everything lately is anonymous, and too much of it being wring to flat out debunked. It is like I said like the boy who cried wolf, if you cry wolf the townsfolk hear it and come to your aid, if you cry it and one ain't there you get called a liar, keep doing it and no one will listen even a real one shows up.
By running every story as a means to de legitimize trump with no verifying, they are just de sensitizing the american public to the point any anonymous source against trump must be a lie, they are in such a rush to hurt trump they do not realize they are helping him in the long run.
I'm not sure what planet you live on, but here on planet Earth we usually tend not to like those who want praise they don't deserve. All of these things are coming out of Trump's White House and yes, there is usually evidence, or confirmed reports later from multiple officials or people afterwards. The only person doing the "debunking" are people Trump pays or his supporters.
Honestly, I asked a conservative to give me evidence of which of these stories have been proved false by the anonymous sources and they turned around and gave me the official government story. This was coming from a conservative and the story was coming from the liar in chief who studies alternative facts! :lamo
From your oat I already gather you have an immediate hate of trump, and an opinion no news can change, so you do not seek news, you seek validation of your own opinion, no matter how wrong or fake the news is.
If you want to know how to tell which ones are fake and which real, watch the trump admin response, they have been bad at hiding anything. If it is true you usually get a no comment or a poor runaround answer, when they are false the white house quickly refutes it.
If you got any specific article bring it up, however no one should be your personal fact checker, and I will not dig through each and every nothing burger article from an anonymous source, if you got one name it, I can probably find quickly if it holds ground atleast as probable or is a debunked piece forgotten rather quickly.
Posts like yours are soooo contradictory. I literally just told you that the official stories from the trump team shouldn't be trusted and you just confirmed that by saying that they usually have a poor response to leaks. Outside of Trump screaming for people to find the leakers.
Hate is a strong word. I am anti-Trump because of his attitude and leadership style and seemingly inability to let things go. I do like maybe three things he has done so far, but that's it! Why should that matter anyway? We are talking about credibility, not likability. It's something that Trump himself seems to struggle with. In my view Trump has neither, but again. That doesn't matter. I didn't like Obama either.
From your post, it seems like every bad thing about Trump shouldn't be taken a face value. Is that true?
No you proved my point, you argued trump team can't be trusted, but a unverified anonymous source with unverifiable info must be trusted. Reality lies between both sides, but you fail to see it, you see your own views and yours only and seek anything to back up your view rather than seek the truth, I believe the definition is partisan.
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