Lawyer for Covington Catholic HS Families Threatens Lawsuits Against Media Unless They Retract False

[Kal'Stang]

The full video makes the boys look worse. It downgrades them from just having one petulant teenager to a scene that might have been pulled straight out of Lord of the Flies.

I think that you haven't read Lord of the Flies if you think those teenagers were anywhere CLOSE to being analogous to the story in that book.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Riiiight. Here, let me spare you the run-around and take you straight to Post #400-ish from this thread: https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...american-elder-and-teens-maga-hats-story.html

You will see where I pointed out the child endangerment that their chaperones put them through. There's really nothing to oppose that view that hasn't already been attempted, but of course you're welcome to try.

Sorry I don't think you know what you are talking about in this situation.

Covington Catholic chaperone: 'Nothing the chaperones could have done differently'

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/21/cov-cath-chaperone-stands-behind-students-other-chaperones-d-c/2636426002/

Many have asked: Where were the chaperones during the confrontation between Covington Catholic High School students, Native American marchers and Black Hebrew Israelites in Washington, D.C. on Friday?

It turns out there were at least five on the scene, one of the chaperones told The Enquirer on Monday.

That chaperone, Val Andreev, stands by how they handled the situation.

"There was nothing the chaperones could have done differently," said Andreev, a Hebron-resident. "I’m very proud the way the boys handled the situation."

Andreev and his 14-year-old son joined about 20 other chaperones and 240 students from Covington Catholic last week for the March for Life rally.

They made it back home Saturday without realizing they were involved in a national controversy, Andreev said.

No one with the Covington Catholic group at the time saw it as a confrontation, Andreev said. They didn't think anything of it until the next day when social media erupted with outrage.

"If you look at any videos, there was no confrontation," Andreev told The Enquirer. "There was nothing to control. There was not any aggression."

He said another chaperone made the Covington Catholic boys move further back from the Native American protestors. He didn't hear any of the Covington Catholic students chant "build that wall." He said chaperones gave permission for the students to chant "school spirit" slogans in response to some members of the Black Israelites yelling obscenities at them.

 

[Mr Person]

The full video makes the boys look worse. It downgrades them from just having one petulant teenager to a scene that might have been pulled straight out of Lord of the Flies.

I think that you haven't read Lord of the Flies if you think those teenagers were anywhere CLOSE to being analogous to the story in that book.

Unless someone says "literally" before saying something like that, they mean it as a metaphor.

 

[AGENT J]

Unfortunately all that tomahawk chopping didn't make those boys look good. If I were them, I'd drop it. Those images will follow them around forever.

The sins had nothing to do with them being white and Catholic. The paranoia in your post was pretty sad.

Maybe next time they will not make fun of Indians as they did.

They and the Native American should all slink back into obscurity.

Doesn't sound like he's really their lawyer yet. Looks more like he's out for media attention for himself.

Honestly I think the best thing for the kids and their families is to just let this thing go and let it die a quick death, because rightly or wrongly reported, the video makes the kids look really bad.

Agreed these two posts are spot on!
Theres enough crap going around to tarnish everybody, with all the videos out there and proof nobody is innocent in this mess . . .its best they all move on because no good will come from perusing anything except more tarnish . .

 

[madasheck]

Cut-and-paste OP from the link. Copyright infringement.

 

[Phys251]

Sorry I don't think you know what you are talking about in this situation.

Covington Catholic chaperone: 'Nothing the chaperones could have done differently'

Stop right there. You just made the same error that a bunch of people made yesterday.

That was a politically charged situation, as the video that you should have watched showed. The BHI protesters were provoking nearly everyone nearby. As the adults, it was the chaperones' duty to recognize potential dangers such as that and keep the boys away from them. But no. Not only did they not keep them out of that potentially dangerous situation, they let the boys do as they pleased, according to Sandmann's statement:

"Because we were being loudly attacked and taunted in public, a student in our group asked one of our teacher chaperones for permission to begin our school spirit chants to counter the hateful things that were being shouted at our group. The chants are commonly used at sporting events. They are all positive in nature and sound like what you would hear at any high school. Our chaperone gave us permission to use our school chants. We would not have done that without obtaining permission from the adults in charge of our group."

That is a dereliction of duty by those adults. Full stop. They should never ever be allowed to chaperone any field trip again.

 

[Phys251]

I think that you haven't read Lord of the Flies if you think those teenagers were anywhere CLOSE to being analogous to the story in that book.

Do I need to get it out and point you to the exact scene I'm referring to? The ONLY thing that was missing was the violence.

 

[Kal'Stang]

Do I need to get it out and point you to the exact scene I'm referring to? The ONLY thing that was missing was the violence.

Yeah sure, please show me the scene where the kids were dancing and laughing and mocking the adults that mocked them while under the watchful eye of adult chaperones.

 

[Kal'Stang]

You were saying Mr Person?

Unless someone says "literally" before saying something like that, they mean it as a metaphor.

Do I need to get it out and point you to the exact scene I'm referring to? The ONLY thing that was missing was the violence.

 

[CLAX1911]

Note the full title would not fit in the title box.

Nice to see a lawyer step up to defend the kids. The offer has been made?
Will they accept it? Probably not





Lawyer for Covington Catholic HS Families Threatens Lawsuits Against Media Unless They Retract False Stories

https://pjmedia.com/trending/lawyer-for-covington-catholic-hs-families-threatens-lawsuits-against-media-unless-they-retract-false-stories/

Thanks to the sloppy, one-sided reporting of the malicious, agenda-driven media, a group of Catholic high school teenagers and their families have become the subjects of threats and harassment from a hateful online outrage mob. Their only sins? Being white, Catholic, and supporters of the president.

The full story has emerged in the wake of the fake news blitzkrieg over the weekend, and the media outlets that spread defamatory smears against the kids are now being warned to correct and retract their stories or face a lawsuit. Contrary to the media's malicious narrative, the kids were not racist rednecks mobbing a Native American elder with hateful slurs. It was quite the opposite.

Los Angeles-based trial lawyer Robert Barnes offered to represent the Covington families for free should they decide to sue the New York Times.

I will represent the kids for free if they want to sue @maggieNYT for obvious libel. https://t.co/VmqVqIVNoe
— Robert Barnes (@Barnes_Law) January 20, 2019

I would sue them anyway for slander. All the kids did was stand there and smile.

 

[CLAX1911]

Do I need to get it out and point you to the exact scene I'm referring to? The ONLY thing that was missing was the violence.

have you changed your tune now that it comes out that the story was false?

 

[SkyFox76]

This is probably one of the most lowest posts that i have seen from you yet.
These boys did nothing wrong.

They were simply there for an event excerising a right when they were verbally assaulted by
the radical left wing nut jobs. Those black guys and indian guy who is a activist by the way.

were the ones that got in their face and started calling them names. the boys did nothing wrong
and in fact attempted to de-escalate the situation. it was all caught on video showing what they did
and what they said. that indian lied his teeth off in the news article and the paper published it knowing
full well that it was a lie.

that is cause for slander and defamation.

Did the black men approach the kids? Not that I saw. Did they force them to stand there and take the verbal abuse? Again, not that I saw. After the face off between Phillips and Sandmann did the students avoid the black men? Not that I saw.

 

[Phys251]

Yeah sure, please show me the scene where the kids were dancing and laughing and mocking the adults that mocked them while under the watchful eye of adult chaperones.

Shift of the goalpost AND gaslighting all rolled into one! A two-for-one, there, Kal! :bravo:

 

[Phys251]

You were saying Mr Person?

Mr. Pearson and I speak for ourselves and not each other. Do not put words in our mouths.

 

[Phys251]

have you changed your tune now that it comes out that the story was false?

Oh, neat! First, you guys' story was, "The MSM got it wrong, watch the video!" So I did. And in hindsight I'm glad I did.

Now it's, "That thing you clearly saw in the video did not happen!" Specifically, when the boys surrounded Phillips after he approached the boys--a claim he had been making since this whole incident broke out.

You need to step up your gaslighting game. Hint: Gaslighting only works if your intended victim doesn't detect it.

 

[SkyFox76]

You seem to have (unilaterally?) decided that the tomahawk chop was jeering (racist behavior?) rather than cheering (audience participation?). The initial reporting made it appear that the student group approached (confronted?) the drumming and chanting Native Americans when the opposite was the case. It seems that two small groups of adult activists tried very hard to get a reaction from the larger group of students and succeeded - why was that not clearly stated as the "news"?

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Just curious but were those people directing those actions toward a group of NA's in front of them like the boy were?

 

[CLAX1911]

Oh, neat! First, you guys' story was, "The MSM got it wrong, watch the video!" So I did. And in hindsight I'm glad I did.

Now it's, "That thing you clearly saw in the video did not happen!" Specifically, when the boys surrounded Phillips after he approached the boys--a claim he had been making since this whole incident broke out.

You need to step up your gaslighting game. Hint: Gaslighting only works if your intended victim doesn't detect it.

You realize the news is retracting the story right? you are going to insist that their lies aren't lies even though they were caught red-handed and admitted they were?

Do you also believe in Bigfoot?

 

[Phys251]

You realize the news is retracting the story right?

I'm not even talking about whatever the latest MSM narrative is. They're all over the place with their attempts to appease as many people as possible.

I'm talking about what actually happened according to the live video.

So are you prepared to double-down on your gaslighting that the boys did not surround Phillips and did not engage in mocking chants in tempo with Phillips's drum?

 

[Kal'Stang]

Shift of the goalpost AND gaslighting all rolled into one! A two-for-one, there, Kal! :bravo:

What goal posts were moved? You made a claim. Since I read the book I knew your claim was BS and said so. The only one that set goal posts was you. But hey, you keep trying to deflect.

 

[Phys251]

What goal posts were moved? You made a claim. Since I read the book I knew your claim was BS and said so. The only one that set goal posts was you. But hey, you keep trying to deflect.

Then let's just get to the facts. Do you agree or disagree with the fact that (1) Phillips approached the boys (2) who then surrounded him as he got close and (3) engaged in mocking chants in tempo with his drum?

 

[Kal'Stang]

Mr. Pearson and I speak for ourselves and not each other. Do not put words in our mouths.

Funny how you call me out for supposedly speaking for either one of you when Mr Person was the one that was trying to claim that you were just using a metaphor. IE: Speaking for you. Yet I'm the one being chastised when I correctly identify your post as making an analogy. One which you doubled down on by offering to "get it out and point you to the exact scene"...something that you've failed to do btw. Let me guess...now you're going to claim that you were using a metaphor? :lamo

 

[Kal'Stang]

Then let's just get to the facts. Do you agree or disagree with the fact that (1) Phillips approached the boys (2) who then surrounded him as he got close and (3) engaged in mocking chants in tempo with his drum?

How about you just do what you claimed you would do and "get it out and point you to the exact scene" in the Lord of the Flies that is analogous.

 

[SkyFox76]

I would sue them anyway for slander. All the kids did was stand there and smile.

This isn't even realistic with the many videos most of us have seen.

 

[Phys251]

How about you just do what you claimed you would do and "get it out and point you to the exact scene" in the Lord of the Flies that is analogous.

The end of Chapter 9, "A View to a Death." Everything there but the act of violence.

Funny how you call me out for supposedly speaking for either one of you when Mr Person was the one that was trying to claim that you were just using a metaphor. IE: Speaking for you. Yet I'm the one being chastised when I correctly identify your post as making an analogy. One which you doubled down on by offering to "get it out and point you to the exact scene"...something that you've failed to do btw. Let me guess...now you're going to claim that you were using a metaphor? :lamo

Wait, you think that wasn't an inherently dangerous situation? You think that Phillips wasn't in imminent physical danger? Not to mention the nonstop egging on by BHI that got this whole mess started.

Let me give you a hint. I don't know how things work up there in northern Idaho, but in places such as Washington, DC, you have to be streetsmart against agitators such as those BHI men. Despite the idiotic advice that some people have offered, when you see provocateurs such as that, there's only one correct course of action: Leave them alone. The boys didn't do that. They were getting a thrill out of those idiots. And to be fair, when I watched the video, even I laughed at them a few times. But I got to do that from the safety of my residence. The boys didn't. The boys, being adolescents, did not show the proper judgment needed to get out of there before the situation got out of hand. Which it very nearly did. The chaperones with them should have made that choice for them. That is what chaperones are there to do. But they did not. That is where they failed. That safety net broke down, and we very nearly had ourselves the latest case of political violence.

 

[Phys251]

This isn't even realistic with the many videos most of us have seen.

CLAX is playing a full-throated gaslighting game. "That video we told you to watch in lieu of the shifting MSM story? You didn't see what you saw in it!" That's essentially his angle now.