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Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

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It's weird to me that you seem to be holding a position passionately that you aren't able to come up with any arguments to defend. Maybe that means you got something wrong, no?



What are you talking about? The corporate income taxes that only 1 in 3 businesses pay at all? That make up like 5% of our federal revenues? We could hardly be giving businesses a freer ride than we are...



Come on man. Worker productivity isn't something I cam up with or that I calculated... Obviously you know that, right? It's a standard economic measure. The BLS publishes the numbers every quarter...

I swear I saw Conservative say he was a human resources guy.
 
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Certainly bureaucrats are limited by the scope of their job and influence but that does not mean that they will not enthusiastically enforce whatever powers they might have.

At this point in your post it has become obvious that you have completely missed my point.
 

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He often does that.

But what do you expect from a person who's only point ever seems to be "Left evil, Right holier then thou".

Do you have any links to support that claim or are you just blowing smoke out your ass again?
 

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You were dealing in unrealistic generalities that went nowhere.

Which is pretty much 99% of your posts considering you make the most sweeping generalizations of all. "The left does this..." and so on.

Do you have any links to support that claim or are you just blowing smoke out your ass again?

The only thing that comes outta my ass is 253 carat diamonds.
 

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Which is pretty much 99% of your posts considering you make the most sweeping generalizations of all. "The left does this..." and so on.
The only thing that comes outta my ass is 253 carat diamonds.

Then it's evident your mouth is the source for your own waste.
 

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huh - not as much as crapping out diamonds, I'd warrant.
 

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who do you think should determine the wages for an employee? What purpose do the OWS crowd serve and don't they have better use of their time? What I see as a problem is the entitlement mentality held by far too many and that is being promoted by iiberalism. I am waiting for someone to define what fair share is for the rich to pay as well as what is the fair share for lower income workers to pay. While your at it how about defining what a McDonald's worker should pay or any other lower educated worker with nothing but their time invested in the business?

You and I agree there is an entitlement problem but it's not with those demonstrating against wall street, it's with those at the top of the money chain, those who steal from the poor and middle class to continue the draining and destruction of the middle class, but you can't see that can you? is it because you are profitting by inflating the costs of life essential needs, products and services that people require to survive? Wall Street should be regulated to stop the thievery by the rich.

Most of those demonstrating around 70% work either full or part time, it's not a problem with employee productivity it's a problem with greed. You and those who prescribe to your economic conservative rhetoric will find that you are killing the golden goose " the american worker the american consumer and now the people are starting to rise up trying to protect thier future and the future of generations to come.

It's plain to me that you have no idea of how a business operates, it's plain to me that you have no idea of the value of the employeee to the company, every cog in the economic wheel is needed whether it's the server at MacDonalds or the CEO to keep the wheel turning, when the server no longer has employment the CEO no longer is required
 

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You and I agree there is an entitlement problem but it's not with those demonstrating against wall street, it's with those at the top of the money chain, those who steal from the poor and middle class to continue the draining and destruction of the middle class, but you can't see that can you? is it because you are profitting by inflating the costs of life essential needs, products and services that people require to survive? Wall Street should be regulated to stop the thievery by the rich.

Most of those demonstrating around 70% work either full or part time, it's not a problem with employee productivity it's a problem with greed. You and those who prescribe to your economic conservative rhetoric will find that you are killing the golden goose " the american worker the american consumer and now the people are starting to rise up trying to protect thier future and the future of generations to come.

It's plain to me that you have no idea of how a business operates, it's plain to me that you have no idea of the value of the employeee to the company, every cog in the economic wheel is needed whether it's the server at MacDonalds or the CEO to keep the wheel turning, when the server no longer has employment the CEO no longer is required

LOL, why is it that you never started your own business to correct the inequity between those that invest their own money and those who have nothing invested but demand more? Your class envy is quite evident as you believe the rich are stealing from the poor but ignore that politicians steal from us all.

I am hardly poor and didn't get to my status by stealing from anyone, nor did you. The fact that someone who has nothing invested can demand more and you support that mentality says a lot about you.

Love the projection, "it's plain to me that you have no idea of how a business operates" is typical coming from someone who doesn't know me or my background. The market will decide what someone else is worth or feel free to start your own business and pay them what you think they are worth. How do you know that will be enough and is the same as those workers believe they are worth?
 

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You and I agree there is an entitlement problem but it's not with those demonstrating against wall street, it's with those at the top of the money chain, those who steal from the poor and middle class to continue the draining and destruction of the middle class, but you can't see that can you? is it because you are profitting by inflating the costs of life essential needs, products and services that people require to survive? Wall Street should be regulated to stop the thievery by the rich.

Most of those demonstrating around 70% work either full or part time, it's not a problem with employee productivity it's a problem with greed. You and those who prescribe to your economic conservative rhetoric will find that you are killing the golden goose " the american worker the american consumer and now the people are starting to rise up trying to protect thier future and the future of generations to come.

It's plain to me that you have no idea of how a business operates, it's plain to me that you have no idea of the value of the employeee to the company, every cog in the economic wheel is needed whether it's the server at MacDonalds or the CEO to keep the wheel turning, when the server no longer has employment the CEO no longer is required

Earlzp, we all have gifts in certain areas and we have to one day decide how best we can utilize those gifts and profit from them. If you or I are designed to be mechanics or accountants or race car drivers then we can celebrate that fact and enjoy the gift we have been given. These differences, the strengths we all have, are really what make societies work. The investor plays as important a part as the carpenter. The investor might get rich, and some do, but many also fail because they might be weak in some areas. Still they should not be discouraged from trying. And the carpenter, if he is good, will always find steady work if he is honest and capable. We can find meaning and enjoyment in life through our own contributions to the world around us.

The point is that we should not be envious of wealth, nor look at it as the sole purpose in our lives. There are as many opportunities today as there always were but it seems those who are new to the country can more easily see them. Others who have become dependent on the government have not only become blinded to the these opportunities, but are expecting to be led to them as well.

People should stop worrying about the rich and how much they should be taxed and think of their own lives and how they can improve them by utilizing whatever skills and gifts they possess. Chanting slogans, blocking traffic and camping out will not improve their overall present situation at all, and certainly not for the term either.
 

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No, of course not. But that in no way contradicts the fact that the statement "Governments regulate only for the sake of regulating" is inherently idiotic. Regulations don't exist for their own sake. Neither do regulators simply regulate because they are on a power trip. Congress did not pass the Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act because they thought it would be fun for the folks at the EPA to piss people off.
It is all about power. Businesses spend a great deal to prevent the Congress from harming them.
 
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