Labor Day, and a question

[Sykes]

Why is breaking the unions of such great interest for so many? How can you look at what they've accomplished and think "Well, that's enough of that!" You REALLY believe corporations are going to take care of the working class (they've happily eradicated over the past 30 years) without being made to do so? Really??

I can see why the Koch brothers want them gone. *MOAR $$$$!!!!* - but why is the average working class stiff singing the same song.

And for those who believe unions have outlived their usefulness, take a gander at the voting law being gutted. Two hours later, Texas had their new legislation in place. People in power are corrupt enough without anybody standing against them. Take the unions out of the picture, and there will be no middle class.

 

[Ray410]

Citing Obamacare, 40,000 Longshoremen Quit the AFL-CIO

 

[Sykes]

Nope. That has nothing to do with what we are discussing.

 

[MaggieD]

Why is breaking the unions of such great interest for so many? How can you look at what they've accomplished and think "Well, that's enough of that!" You REALLY believe corporations are going to take care of the working class (they've happily eradicated over the past 30 years) without being made to do so? Really??

I can see why the Koch brothers want them gone. *MOAR $$$$!!!!* - but why is the average working class stiff singing the same song.

And for those who believe unions have outlived their usefulness, take a gander at the voting law being gutted. Two hours later, Texas had their new legislation in place. People in power are corrupt enough without anybody standing against them. Take the unions out of the picture, and there will be no middle class.

No problem with private sector unions from this Conservative. Public sector unions? I think they are an abomination.

 

[Sykes]

No problem with private sector unions from this Conservative. Public sector unions? I think they are an abomination.

Why would they be an abomination.

And is that a homosexual abomination, or a shellfish abomination.

 

[Sykes]

AFL motto = "A fair day's wage for a fair day's work."

Somebody explain to me, in the face of today's McJobs, why this is a bad thing.

 

[MaggieD]

Why would they be an abomination.

And is that a homosexual abomination, or a shellfish abomination.

Private sector unions' bargaining power depends upon the success or failure of their company. If the company can't afford their demands? They don't get met. Public sector unions rely on the bottomless pit that is Other People's Money. That fact, combined with the fact that politicians use their largess with public sector unions to buy their re-election makes for "abomination."

 

[Campbell]

Why is breaking the unions of such great interest for so many? How can you look at what they've accomplished and think "Well, that's enough of that!" You REALLY believe corporations are going to take care of the working class (they've happily eradicated over the past 30 years) without being made to do so? Really??

I can see why the Koch brothers want them gone. *MOAR $$$$!!!!* - but why is the average working class stiff singing the same song.

And for those who believe unions have outlived their usefulness, take a gander at the voting law being gutted. Two hours later, Texas had their new legislation in place. People in power are corrupt enough without anybody standing against them. Take the unions out of the picture, and there will be no middle class.

Nothing's changed. Corporations and the wealthy would rather have a case of the clap than to deal with a labor union. You know why? They think anything over minimum wage is overpayment to their serfs and they will fight tooth and toenail to prevent it.

 

[beerftw]

Nothing's changed. Corporations and the wealthy would rather have a case of the clap than to deal with a labor union. You know why? They think anything over minimum wage is overpayment to their serfs and they will fight tooth and toenail to prevent it.

quite false,many corporations and businesspay what is fair in order to maintain quality employees in order to beat the competition and make more money,of course this doesnt apply to unskilled labor,as they are a dime a dozen,whereas skilled labor in many fields is hard to replace,and no company would comprimise efficiency or customer satisfaction unless that job was so absolutely simple a caveman could do it,or the market was absolutely flooded with that requirement.

 

[Sykes]

quite false,many corporations and businesspay what is fair in order to maintain quality employees in order to beat the competition and make more money,of course this doesnt apply to unskilled labor,as they are a dime a dozen,whereas skilled labor in many fields is hard to replace,and no company would comprimise efficiency or customer satisfaction unless that job was so absolutely simple a caveman could do it,or the market was absolutely flooded with that requirement.

Sure they do. That's why companies like Costco and Trader Joe's stand out. Because **** all not much of anybody else is doing the same.

 

[Starbuck]

First, we cannot solve the problems created by our push toward socialism with more socialism.

That is quite true, the way the system is set up, only the actual corporate leaders are in a position to solve the problem. The government can't simply tax them into morality.

Honestly, the burden of the solution to this problem is on those in a position to actually change how people operate.

Paying workers more, or lowering the costs of goods would be a great start. . . bring income closer to the actual cost of living. But, the government can't do that, business need to do that.

 

[TheGirlNextDoor]

Private sector unions' bargaining power depends upon the success or failure of their company. If the company can't afford their demands? They don't get met. Public sector unions rely on the bottomless pit that is Other People's Money. That fact, combined with the fact that politicians use their largess with public sector unions to buy their re-election makes for "abomination."

Requoting this, since it seems to have been over looked by some here.