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Kremlin Says Navalny's Hospitalization Shouldn't Hurt Ties With West

Yes, an obviously absurd story.


If the Russian state poisoned him, he wouldn't have been allowed to fly to Germany.

Assuming the Russian state is a homogenized bloc of organisation all marching firmly in the same direction rather than, as it gives the impression of being, a mass of ferrets encased (for the moment) Chernobyl-style in the steely burlap sack of Putin.
 
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So let's get this straight:

The Kremlin decided to poison Navalny, although it's not clear why since he's not remotely popular.

The Kremlin decided to use a banned substance, Novichuk, which Russia has told the world it doesn't have.

The Kremlin then saved his life.

The Krtemlin then said: let's let him go to Berlin so the Europeans can discover the Novichuk.



Seriously?

Then we see the Germans sharing no data and providing no evidence, despite demanding Russia explain itself.

Miraculously, nobody around Navalny, not even in the close confines of the aircraft, suffered any cross contamination or ill effects from the Novichuk despite its extreme lethality.


Western shills can believe what they want - but surely not everyone is so gullible?
 
I already said why but I'll make an exception for you in that Kremlin doctors can hardly come up with the truth, if they want their careers and possibly health to remain unimpaired.

This way the word is out and the Kremlin can go into its own perpetual denial as it is prone to do, conveniently blaming the Western propaganda to the point of (as we now get to hear) accusing the Berlin doctors of having poisoned Navalny themselves.

Well, I have no tolerance for Moscow shills and when they lie as continuously as you have been doing ever since you joined, contempt is the word.


Let's cut to the chase.


Why would Russia voluntarily open itself up to being put in this position when it could have kept him in Russia?


You still haven't explained.
 
Let's cut to the chase.

Why would Russia voluntarily open itself up to being put in this position when it could have kept him in Russia?

The Kremlin didn't count on Navalny surviving, albeit in a coma.

They planned on Navalny being dead and buried on Russian soil with the Omsk doctors making up some BS cause of death.

When Germany demanded to have Navalny flown to Berlin, Moscow could hardly say no.

After all, Putin is still dependent on Merkel supporting Nord Stream-2.
 
The Kremlin didn't count on Navalny surviving, albeit in a coma.

They planned on Navalny being dead and buried on Russian soil with the Omsk doctors making up some BS cause of death.

When Germany demanded to have Navalny flown to Berlin, Moscow could hardly say no.

After all, Putin is still dependent on Merkel supporting Nord Stream-2.


Nonsense.

Russia could have found all sorts of reasons to keep him - medical reasons, political ones, made up criminal charges.
 
Nonsense.

Russia could have found all sorts of reasons to keep him - medical reasons, political ones, made up criminal charges.

Certainly Moscow could have, but the onus would remain on the Kremlin.

Putin would be held accountable for Navalny no matter his location.
 
Certainly Moscow could have, but the onus would remain on the Kremlin.

Putin would be held accountable for Navalny no matter his location.


Yes.

But the current situation is the worst of all worlds for Russia, and it makes zero sense for Russia to have voluntarily put itself in this situation.
 
Let's cut to the chase.


Why would Russia voluntarily open itself up to being put in this position when it could have kept him in Russia?


You still haven't explained.
You just haven't understood.

Or are pretending that.
 
The Kremlin didn't count on Navalny surviving, albeit in a coma.

They planned on Navalny being dead and buried on Russian soil with the Omsk doctors making up some BS cause of death.

When Germany demanded to have Navalny flown to Berlin, Moscow could hardly say no.

After all, Putin is still dependent on Merkel supporting Nord Stream-2.
I see another angle.

Make a hit on someone as a warning to everybody else, then deny you were behind it while being sure of having delivered the message of "none of you is safe"

Old KGB tactic and Vlad is one of that lot.

He'd hardly allow the Omsk doctors (IOW his own Russians) to confirm the action or he wouldn't be able to deny.

From Salisbury to London to a park in Berlin, always the same. Demonstrate that you're behind it but pull off the whole thing in a manner that leaves room for deniability.

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That this thing has the looks of (possibly) blowing up in the Kremlin's face more than all the other previous incidents did, is the gauntlet one runs when continuously testing how far the envelope can actually be pushed.

It'll all depend on what "the Europeans" and NATO are going to do now,

Merkel is spouting strong words of disgust (stronger than ever) but that means precious little all on its own. Nevertheless one need remember that she tends to orientate herself along public opinion and will thus often adjust her previous stance (and often unwisely, as with opening the pressure valve in 2015 or charging straight out of nuclear after Fukushima).

Pressure on her is also great within the German parties, the controversy over that stupid pipeline having been greatest within her own for years already.

So the critics are now having a field day in refreshed hopes of being able to spike the whole thing for good. All the past chatter over how one has to keep workable relations with a thug regime now has more heads shaking than ever.

Widely held position by now being that you don't do business with mobsters, loss of returns on investments be damned.
 
I see another angle.

Make a hit on someone as a warning to everybody else, then deny you were behind it while being sure of having delivered the message of "none of you is safe"

Old KGB tactic and Vlad is one of that lot.

He'd hardly allow the Omsk doctors (IOW his own Russians) to confirm the action or he wouldn't be able to deny.

From Salisbury to London to a park in Berlin, always the same. Demonstrate that you're behind it but pull off the whole thing in a manner that leaves room for deniability.

Yes. Like I posited in #29, I don't think the Kremlin even conceived of a scenario in which Navalny lingered on without dying.

Or Germany demanding that Navalny be air-lifted to a Berlin hospital. Berlin, where another Russian assassination occurred not that long ago.

As with Salisbury and the Skripals, Moscow screwed up their murderous affair with Navalny and there will now be consequences.
 
Yes. Like I posited in #29, I don't think the Kremlin even conceived of a scenario in which Navalny lingered on without dying.

Or Germany demanding that Navalny be air-lifted to a Berlin hospital. Berlin, where another Russian assassination occurred not that long ago.

As with Salisbury and the Skripals, Moscow screwed up their murderous affair with Navalny and there will now be consequences.



Talk it up all you like ....... but why would Russia send him to Germany when such a move would be so catastrophic for Russia?


The West lurches farcically between portraying Russia as the arch all powerful manipulator of all evil, to Russia as the blithering idiotic Nigeria with snow (see Litwin et al).
 
Kremlin Says Navalny's Hospitalization Shouldn't Hurt Ties With West

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Well Mr. Peskov, when the regime has a long history of assassinating journalists and opposition activists, you can't very well complain the world is drawing a conclusion prematurely.

Under Trump, all Americans have kinship with Alexei Navalny.
Trump is poisoning us and our country.
@JoeBiden @ericspillman @alfranken

Trump even poisoned The Rock and his family.

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The West is not portraying Russia (and subsequently ALL its people) as a bunch of criminal thugs, it's more and more seeing the Kremlin Mafia as being that.

Pretty much like not holding Lukashenka TO BE Belarus.

That's not even a subtle distinction but if it goes against own Russian trolling agenda, obtuseness on the matter can safely be seen as being deliberate.
 
The West is not portraying Russia (and subsequently ALL its people) as a bunch of criminal thugs, it's more and more seeing the Kremlin Mafia as being that.

Pretty much like not holding Lukashenka TO BE Belarus.

That's not even a subtle distinction but if it goes against own Russian trolling agenda, obtuseness on the matter can safely be seen as being deliberate.

You notice he only shows up here when the Kremlin has a huge international PR problem?
 
You notice he only shows up here when the Kremlin has a huge international PR problem?
Well, man's gotta do what he's gotta do and Russian man's gotta do what he's paid to do.:lol:
 
To prove the Kremlin's innocence, are Russia Today going to make a chocolate model of Tomsk cathedral like they did with Salisbury?
 
The German opposition called on the German government to grant political asylum to Alexey Navalny. But something tells me that it is unlikely that Alexey will agree to trade his luxurious life in Russia for Germany.
 
Once again, they found a deadly battle poison, a tiny dose of which can kill a small town. But again the victim of poisoning survived and no one else was injured anywhere...
 
Once again, they found a deadly battle poison, a tiny dose of which can kill a small town. But again the victim of poisoning survived and no one else was injured anywhere...


Yes.

The British told the world that it was a heinous attack with a poison so lethal that it put the entire town of Salisbury at risk of death.

Yet here we are again - Navalny survived and nobody else has suffered any ill effects despite not wearing any PPE and despite being in close contact.

Even my cat can smell the rat.
 
Yet here we are again - Navalny survived and nobody else has suffered any ill effects despite not wearing any PPE and despite being in close contact.

The Novichok poison here was mixed in Navalny's tea at the airport. Less than a raindrop. No one else was exposed.
 
The Novichok poison here was mixed in Navalny's tea at the airport. Less than a raindrop. No one else was exposed.


The evidence for that is what ..........?


Nothing.
 
The evidence for that is what ..........?

Nothing.

It was the only food/drink Navalny had that morning. At the Tomsk airport cafe.

Much like when the Kremlin poisoned Alexander Litvenenko in London in 2006 with polonium-210 mixed in his tea,

the Kremlin tried a similar method here with Navalny using Novichok mixed in his tea.
 
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