Kremlin Rejects Top UN Court's Order to Halt Ukraine Invasion

[Rogue Valley]

Kremlin Rejects Top UN Court's Order to Halt Ukraine Invasion - The Moscow Times

The Kremlin rejected on Thursday a top UN court’s order to halt its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

www.themoscowtimes.com

3.17.22
The Kremlin rejected on Thursday a top UN court’s order to halt its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine. The International Court of Justice ordered Russia to “immediately suspend” its offensive that President Vladimir Putin ordered on Feb. 24. Kyiv hailed the ruling — which is binding but lacks any real means to enforce it — as a “complete victory.” “We can’t take that decision into account,” the state-run TASS news agency quoted Putin’s press secretary Dmitry Peskov as saying. Peskov echoed Moscow’s stance during hearings earlier this month that the ICJ has no jurisdiction because Kyiv’s request fell outside the 1948 Genocide Convention on which it based the case. “There’s such a thing as consent of the parties in an international court. There can be no consent here,” he told reporters. But the ICJ ruled Wednesday that it had jurisdiction in the case. No Russian representatives attended the hearing at The Hague.

The Kremlin ignores an international court order as its military continues to commit vicious war crimes in Ukraine.

A pariah/rogue state.

 

[Peacenik]

What took the UN so long to issue a ruling?

The UN should have stepped in while Putin was still amassing his invasion force on the border.

Would Putin have gone in if an equal force sat on the other side of the border, comprised of troops and equipment from nearly every other nation on the planet?

What is needed to prevent any more wars is a UN with teeth.

 

[Monica33]

What took the UN so long to issue a ruling?

Because the UN is in a very embarrassing situation .

Ukraine never registered its borders and technically there has been no invasion .

 

[Bum]

Kremlin Rejects Top UN Court's Order to Halt Ukraine Invasion - The Moscow Times

The Kremlin rejected on Thursday a top UN court’s order to halt its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

www.themoscowtimes.com

The Kremlin ignores an international court order as its military continues to commit vicious war crimes in Ukraine.

A pariah/rogue state.

Yeah, there's a surprising development....a country that ignored the UN?

You can't spell unnecessary without UN.

 

[NWRatCon]

What took the UN so long to issue a ruling?

This is not the UN, per se, it's the International Court of Justice. They have to take in information, and then issue a ruling. But, what will be interesting is whether that, and the Kremlin's response, might be used by other UN nations to intervene.

 

[Fledermaus]

Because the UN is in a very embarrassing situation .

Ukraine never registered its borders and technically there has been no invasion .

Citation?

 

[NWRatCon]

Citation?

It's hard to pull citations from such a dark place.

 

[Peacenik]

Because the UN is in a very embarrassing situation .

Ukraine never registered its borders and technically there has been no invasion .

No invasion?

Those people, those people with the looks of anguish on their faces, who have had their lives destroyed in senseless attacks on residential buildings, at least the ones who survived the attacks and were not murdered in cold blood outright, those people tell a different story.

It is a story of a ruthless aggressor attacking a peaceful country. Putin is a monster.

It is absolutely an invasion.

Peaceful nations which wish to live in harmony with the rest of the world do not send their troops into neighboring countries, do not use artillery on hospitals and apartments.

This war needs to stop. Russia needs to bring her invasion forces back into Russia and end this. Russia should pay repercussions to Ukraine to help Ukraine rebuild.

Russia needs to replace Putin.

 

[code1211]

Kremlin Rejects Top UN Court's Order to Halt Ukraine Invasion - The Moscow Times

The Kremlin rejected on Thursday a top UN court’s order to halt its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

www.themoscowtimes.com

The Kremlin ignores an international court order as its military continues to commit vicious war crimes in Ukraine.

A pariah/rogue state.

Any and all laws are meaningless without enforcement.

 

[TypicalRussian]

Kremlin Rejects Top UN Court's Order to Halt Ukraine Invasion - The Moscow Times

The Kremlin rejected on Thursday a top UN court’s order to halt its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

www.themoscowtimes.com

The Kremlin ignores an international court order as its military continues to commit vicious war crimes in Ukraine.

A pariah/rogue state.

the UN has no actual power

 

[NWRatCon]

I was able to trace the source of Monica33's latest baldfaced lie (in this thread). It's been part of Putin's disinformation campaign since 2014.

RUSSIAN FACEBOOK USERS CLAIM UKRAINE DOES NOT HAVE INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED BORDERS (Mythdetector)​

"On February 26th, the Facebook user “Сергей Тимаков” published a post stating that Ukraine does not exist as a country since Ukraine has no officially recognized borders, and this addressed by former UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon back in 2014. The user further claimed that the territory of Ukraine, according to the CIS document, remains the administrative region of the Soviet Union, and according to the Budapest Memorandum, the country has no borders at all. Accordingly, the author of the post concludes that accusing Russia of violating Ukraine’s territorial integrity is impossible."

After marking the information as false, “Myth Detector” revealed additional 53 accounts, which have been distributed the identical text in a coordinated manner, claiming that Ukraine’s borders are not registered with the UN; therefore, Russia has not violated the international law. “LiveJournal,” the origin of this disinformation, has also been identified. The outlet was spreading the disinformation as early as May 2014, in the context of Russian military intervention in Crimea.

It's notable that this poster has such direct access to Russia’s disinformation resources, isn't it? And such willingness to spread demonstrably false propaganda? It seems wilful. Almost like willfully bombing bomb shelters full of children and hospitals.

 

[Luce]

Weren't two of our Putin fans saying how this should all be handled with international law?

 

[NWRatCon]

Weren't two of our Putin fans saying how this should all be handled with international law?

Apparently only when it suits their narrative. The ICJ has ruled, and it is the association that governs international relations.

 

[Luce]

Any and all laws are meaningless without enforcement.

Point. But now we can deliver as many weapons as we like, and not have to worry about any consequences.

 

[NWRatCon]

I'll note in fairness, that the United States ignored an ICJ decision ordering reparations to Nicaragua over the Iran-Contra affair. I think it gives the United States a black eye when it promotes international legal standards, then ignores them when it suits their political preferences.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Neither the United States nor Russia are signatories to the 1998 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.

The US government worried about US officers/soldiers being prosecuted overseas for war crimes. The US prefers to try such cases in US courts of law or courts-martial.

Russia has never prosecuted a Russian for war ctimes.

Ukraine formally acknowledged that the ICC has jurisdiction in 2013.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Kremlin Rejects Top UN Court's Order to Halt Ukraine Invasion - The Moscow Times

The Kremlin rejected on Thursday a top UN court’s order to halt its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

www.themoscowtimes.com

The Kremlin ignores an international court order as its military continues to commit vicious war crimes in Ukraine.

A pariah/rogue state.

I mean given this court, like all UN institutions is just an affirmative action body for crypto communists there’s no reason to obey it

 

[EMNofSeattle]

No invasion?

Those people, those people with the looks of anguish on their faces, who have had their lives destroyed in senseless attacks on residential buildings, at least the ones who survived the attacks and were not murdered in cold blood outright, those people tell a different story.

It is a story of a ruthless aggressor attacking a peaceful country. Putin is a monster.

It is absolutely an invasion.

Peaceful nations which wish to live in harmony with the rest of the world do not send their troops into neighboring countries, do not use artillery on hospitals and apartments.

This war needs to stop. Russia needs to bring her invasion forces back into Russia and end this. Russia should pay repercussions to Ukraine to help Ukraine rebuild.

Russia needs to replace Putin.

Yes, war sucks, but it’s a legitimate means of resolving disputes and the civilians in Ukraine are only in danger because their government wants them to die so they can keep getting western money

 

[Rogue Valley]

I mean given this court, like all UN institutions is just an affirmative action body for crypto communists there’s no reason to obey it

Your post vividly demonstrates just how uneducated you are.

 

[NWRatCon]

Neither the United States nor Russia are signatories to the 1998 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.

The US government worried about US officers/soldiers being prosecuted overseas for war crimes. The US prefers to try such cases in US courts of law or courts-martial.

Russia has never prosecuted a Russian for war ctimes.

Ukraine formally acknowledged that the ICC has jurisdiction in 2013.

Just for clarification: the The International Court of Justice (ICJ) and international Criminal Court (ICC) are different entities, governed by different treaties, and perform different functions. ICJ is a civil court that hears disputes between countries (here Ukraine and Russia). The ICC is a criminal court that prosecutes individuals. I may have inadvertently misapplied the term in response to another poster who blatantly misrepresented the UN court's findings in another thread.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Ukraine has previously, on numerous occasions, won monetary awards from The International Court of Justice (ICJ) against Russia.

There are still lawsuits pending regarding Crimea, and Crimean EEZ mineral rights

 

[Luce]

Putin seems a little upset.

Russia says Biden spouting 'personal insults' with Putin 'war criminal' accusation

www.msn.com

 

[Peacenik]

Yes, war sucks, but it’s a legitimate means of resolving disputes and the civilians in Ukraine are only in danger because their government wants them to die so they can keep getting western money

Utter BS. The people of Ukraine are in a war because Russia attacked them without reason or provocation.

 

[NWRatCon]

Utter BS. The people of Ukraine are in a war because Russia attacked them without reason or provocation.

Of course it's BS. Nothing he posts is ever reasonable. It's always partisan hackery, devoid of substance and bereft of citation.

"The Russian invasion of Ukraine is the most brazen illegal war waged by one sovereign state against another since World War II. The Kremlin launched the invasion in clear violation of the core obligation in the UN Charter, which prohibits the “use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state.” Russian President Vladimir Putin has recently threatened that if Ukrainians continue to resist, they “risk the future of Ukrainian statehood.” And there is an avalanche of real-time evidence emerging from Ukraine that the Russian military is committing war crimes throughout the country—including by targeting civilians." International Law Goes to War in Ukraine (Foreign Affairs).

So much for any claim that it is "a legitimate means".

 

[Juin]

Point. But now we can deliver as many weapons as we like, and not have to worry about any consequences.

There are always consequences