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Killing In The Name of Jesus!!!!!!

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Killing in the name of Jesus.......PRAISE THE LOARD! PRAISE JEEEEEESUS!

Okay, enough humor about the southern baptist pulpits....

Check out this link...... Its disguisting how they glorify what these sick freaks do. (and im not talking about the first couple of pictures)

http://www.armyofgod.com/ Main page-Check out all the links...."Criminal!"
http://www.armyofgod.com/heroes.html Just plain wrong.......
http://www.armyofgod.com/Claytonnewpaper.html

If you keep digging around, you'll find all the sick **** these people are about.
 

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It is easy to vilify those who seek to oppress others, who use near contradictory punishments against their opponents and a lot harder to empathise with them, and try to find out how we drove someone to the madness of killing an abortionist.

We do not have to agree with them, but we owe our opponents time and dedication, so they may properly explain themselves.

"You have a responsibility to protect your neighbor's life, and to use force if necessary to do so. In an effort to suppress this truth, you may mix my blood with the blood of the unborn, and those who have fought to defend the oppressed. However, truth and righteousness will prevail. May God help you to protect the unborn as you would want to be protected."
Paul J. Hill
in regards to your title, he did not say that they should kill for Jesus. He says that he feels people should protect the unborn like they protect themselves. He mixes this up with christian rhetoric, of course, but how do we defend ourselves against this argument? How can we be serious to ourselves, when we are not serious to the arguments of our opponents?

Mr U
 

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HU-210 said:
It is easy to vilify those who seek to oppress others, who use near contradictory punishments against their opponents and a lot harder to empathise with them, and try to find out how we drove someone to the madness of killing an abortionist.

We do not have to agree with them, but we owe our opponents time and dedication, so they may properly explain themselves.



in regards to your title, he did not say that they should kill for Jesus. He says that he feels people should protect the unborn like they protect themselves. He mixes this up with christian rhetoric, of course, but how do we defend ourselves against this argument? How can we be serious to ourselves, when we are not serious to the arguments of our opponents?

Mr U
The difference is... Paul Hill is not the one who runs that website..

Its run by a Rev. Donald Spitz
If he were a true man of god, would the good Rev. Donald Spitz endorse such acts? If you look through the website you will see that he even tries to teach people how to handle the Police, should you blow up a building and find yourself in an Investigation.......
It may look like he is just giving advise, BUT, he has specific mentionings of the Investigators being Babykiller Protectors. And encouraging those who aren't involved NOT to assist the police.

X. Never betray your brothers or sisters in the LORD. Even if you know nothing, why assist the protectors of the babykillers with assisting them by ruling you out. Never say anything but, "I do not want to talk to you without a lawyer."

If you go to your door one day and are greeted with these words,
"GOOD MORNING! My name is Investigator Friendly. Do you mind answering a few simple questions?"
STOP AND THINK! "I have nothing to say, I've been advised to not to speak to you without my lawyer. Good-bye." Then close the door.
(It's tempting to try and find out what they are after, but it's better not to fall into the trap of talking.) They are experts at extracting information and interviewing techniques. If they are after you, they will serve you with papers if they have any evidence. Why help them make the case against you. Remember, these people want to put you or your brothers and sisters in prison for protecting unborn babies from being murdered. They are not YOUR friends, they are the BABYKILLERS protectors.
I think that is enough information to assume that he does promote "Killing in the name of Jesus"
 

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I think that is enough information to assume that he does promote "Killing in the name of Jesus"
Okay, I'll grant you that assumption. Now tell me how THAT is a bad thing. The bible teaches that the killing of innocents is wrong. The killing of murderers is tolerated. In fact, it is the law of Mozes to do so.

Aside from this, the Hippocratic Oath includes not using your knowledge and talents for abortion.

Mr U
 

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What's the big deal...:doh


Slaves owners in America have always murdered and hung blacks...in the

name of...Jesus.

Since everything is so...political, I guess they were...right-wing killing...in the name of...Jesus.
 

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HU-210 said:
Okay, I'll grant you that assumption. Now tell me how THAT is a bad thing. The bible teaches that the killing of innocents is wrong. The killing of murderers is tolerated. In fact, it is the law of Mozes to do so.

Aside from this, the Hippocratic Oath includes not using your knowledge and talents for abortion.

Mr U
I think I'll just stick with my own faith....we dont think killing people is a good thing.
 

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Good thing? Killing someone can feel very good, I assure you. The concept of good and evil are as existent as black and white. There are many forms of black, and many forms of white, none of which is the true black and white, and like good and evil, there is no true color or lack thereof in the world. It is merely our perception of it.

That said, I think it is in the benefit of society to reach some certainty of personal safety of health and goods and a 'ban on murdering' is part of that.

Mr U
 

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Caine said:
Killing in the name of Jesus.......PRAISE THE LOARD! PRAISE JEEEEEESUS!

Okay, enough humor about the southern baptist pulpits....

Check out this link...... Its disguisting how they glorify what these sick freaks do. (and im not talking about the first couple of pictures)

http://www.armyofgod.com/ Main page-Check out all the links...."Criminal!"
http://www.armyofgod.com/heroes.html Just plain wrong.......
http://www.armyofgod.com/Claytonnewpaper.html

If you keep digging around, you'll find all the sick **** these people are about.
Oh these guys are sick, huh? And you don't think the viscious, blood thirsty atheist communists of the 20th century were just as bad? If not, you're a hypocrite. By far the most horrible atrocities of the last 150 years have been committed by atheists. Once the atheists took over power in Russia in the early 1900's, the blood shed started and never really ended until 1990. And this insane blood shed engulfed nearly half of Europe. Many lives were ruined. Now, we are still seeing violence perpetrated by atheists: Look at the government of China. I guess slaughtering millions of buddhists wasn't enough for them.
 

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cherith said:
What's the big deal...:doh


Slaves owners in America have always murdered and hung blacks...in the

name of...Jesus.

Since everything is so...political, I guess they were...right-wing killing...in the name of...Jesus.
I never mentioned right wing.... your trying to turn this into some partisan bullshit, if you want to be all partisan like that, go to a different thread.
 

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HU-210 said:
Good thing? Killing someone can feel very good, I assure you. The concept of good and evil are as existent as black and white. There are many forms of black, and many forms of white, none of which is the true black and white, and like good and evil, there is no true color or lack thereof in the world. It is merely our perception of it.

That said, I think it is in the benefit of society to reach some certainty of personal safety of health and goods and a 'ban on murdering' is part of that.

Mr U
this "murder" that you speak of is within the limits of the law, so your argument is false.

With that said, how would you like some religious freak to come blow up your hardware store because they think we should be using stone tools instead of power tools?????
Or, how about someone come blow up a porn store because they disagree with the pornography industry.
Or, how baout someone come blow up your home because you displayed a Menorah during the Chanukah holiday, and they are an anti-semitic, who thinks all Jews should die because they don't believe in JEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUS.
 

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George_Washington said:
Oh these guys are sick, huh? And you don't think the viscious, blood thirsty atheist communists of the 20th century were just as bad? If not, you're a hypocrite. By far the most horrible atrocities of the last 150 years have been committed by atheists. Once the atheists took over power in Russia in the early 1900's, the blood shed started and never really ended until 1990. And this insane blood shed engulfed nearly half of Europe. Many lives were ruined. Now, we are still seeing violence perpetrated by atheists: Look at the government of China. I guess slaughtering millions of buddhists wasn't enough for them.
That in no way has anything to do with this thread.
Im speaking of the obvious hypocracy in the Christian religion that Jesus was supposed to be this man of peace, yet there is an "annointed one" who endorses this sick action and attempts to help them get out of an investigation.
All the stuff in the past, the Inquisition, the Nazi Holocaust, all of that was enough, now I learn of this.
Which is why any Christian who tells me Jesus was a peaceful man is full of ****.
 

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Caine said:
That in no way has anything to do with this thread.
Im speaking of the obvious hypocracy in the Christian religion that Jesus was supposed to be this man of peace, yet there is an "annointed one" who endorses this sick action and attempts to help them get out of an investigation.
All the stuff in the past, the Inquisition, the Nazi Holocaust, all of that was enough, now I learn of this.
Which is why any Christian who tells me Jesus was a peaceful man is full of ****.

So you're saying Jesus personally carried out the inquisition and the Holocaust? Hmmm. Wouldn't that be kind of hard for him to do with those events having taken place like at least 500 years after he was dead?

Look, I've already shown evidence that the Nazi leaders were not Christian in another thread. I don't really care to rehash what was quite a long debate but if you're interested, I could recommend some books for you to read. And the inquisition certainly wasn't endorsed by the majority of Christians. That was hundreds of years ago. If you want to look at how Christians behave, the more relevant thing to do would be look at them nowadays. And the bottom line is: You show me a violent Christian and I can show you an atheist that was just as violent. If you want to go ahead and turn your cheek to what atheists do and blame all the violence in the world on Christianity, than that would make you a hypocrite.
 

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So you're saying Jesus personally carried out the inquisition and the Holocaust? Hmmm. Wouldn't that be kind of hard for him to do with those events having taken place like at least 500 years after he was dead?

Look, I've already shown evidence that the Nazi leaders were not Christian in another thread. I don't really care to rehash what was quite a long debate but if you're interested, I could recommend some books for you to read. And the inquisition certainly wasn't endorsed by the majority of Christians. That was hundreds of years ago. If you want to look at how Christians behave, the more relevant thing to do would be look at them nowadays. And the bottom line is: You show me a violent Christian and I can show you an atheist that was just as violent. If you want to go ahead and turn your cheek to what atheists do and blame all the violence in the world on Christianity, than that would make you a hypocrite.
Why are you bringing up athiesm again?????
What does this thread have to do with athiesm???
Your defending sick twisted murderous Christians by showing examples of athiests? Athiests have no religion, thus they do not have any "teachings" they are supposed to follow to keep them moral creatures. So there is no way of theologically calling them hypocrites, they have nothing to follow.

And, the Inquisition was not just in Spain... I watched a History Channel segment on it recently, MANY countries did the same thing, so you can't say it was an isolated incident. If Jesus was such a passive peaceful man, why is it that throughout history, ever since the Christian religion was started, some of the most violent and indecent acts were done on behalf of God by the Christians?
 

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Caine said:
Why are you bringing up athiesm again?????
What does this thread have to do with athiesm???
Your defending sick twisted murderous Christians by showing examples of athiests? Athiests have no religion, thus they do not have any "teachings" they are supposed to follow to keep them moral creatures. So there is no way of theologically calling them hypocrites, they have nothing to follow.

And, the Inquisition was not just in Spain... I watched a History Channel segment on it recently, MANY countries did the same thing, so you can't say it was an isolated incident. If Jesus was such a passive peaceful man, why is it that throughout history, ever since the Christian religion was started, some of the most violent and indecent acts were done on behalf of God by the Christians?
Well, It sounded like in the first post of this thread you were trying to say that these groups represent all Christians and I was just trying to point out that other groups have been violent in the past, too.
 

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Well, It sounded like in the first post of this thread you were trying to say that these groups represent all Christians and I was just trying to point out that other groups have been violent in the past, too.
No, but they do represent Christian Fundamentalism

Along with the KKK
and other White Supremacy groups.
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and Pat Robertson... ( i had to throw that in there)
 

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Caine said:
Killing in the name of Jesus.......PRAISE THE LOARD! PRAISE JEEEEEESUS!

Okay, enough humor about the southern baptist pulpits....

Check out this link...... Its disguisting how they glorify what these sick freaks do. (and im not talking about the first couple of pictures)

http://www.armyofgod.com/ Main page-Check out all the links...."Criminal!"
http://www.armyofgod.com/heroes.html Just plain wrong.......
http://www.armyofgod.com/Claytonnewpaper.html

If you keep digging around, you'll find all the sick **** these people are about.
Rather worryingly, I got hungry whilst reading that site. o_O

Seriously though, on a scale of sociopathy ranging from 1 - 10, that's about an 18. Ugh. I wouldn't be suprised if they secretly condone killing women who've had abortions, too.

George_Washington - why would a Jew need or want to defend what athiests do, anyway? :roll:
 

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George_Washington said:
Look, I've already shown evidence that the Nazi leaders were not Christian in another thread.
Remind me. WHAT was it that was written on the SS belt buckles?
 
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