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Kid shoots mom gun owner charged

Chillfolks

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8-year-old boy accidentally shoots mother at baseball game, gun owner charged

I have no problem with the gun owner being charged in this case.

Long and short A man brought his gun to a baseball game. At some point he lost it and it ends up in a WWII Jeep that was at the stadium. A kid finds the gun, thinks it’s a toy and accidentally shoots mom.

While I think it’s extremely important to teach children about gun safety and that would of gone a long way in preventing this. Ultimately any gun owner exercising their right to carry they have the responsibility to keep their firearm secure. This man failed to do so and is rightfully being changed for his recklessness
 

Agree with PC Dunbar.
"Secure your weapons," Millington Police Chief Mark Dunbar said. "Everybody's got a right to carry, if they got a carry permit, but you need to use common sense and secure your weapons."
 

I hope 'reckless endangerment with a deadly weapon' is a felony.
 
How does one “lose” a gun?
 

He may be charged, but he will not be convicted.

You also misrepresented the story. The antique World War II jeep belonged to McFarland, where the firearm was found. There was no mention of him losing a firearm, or even if it was his firearm. He was charged with reckless endangerment merely because he was the owner of the jeep. No jury is going to find him guilty.
 

Eight year olds should have been taught gun safety at that age.
 
Chillfolks said:
While I think it’s extremely important to teach children about gun safety and that would of gone a long way in preventing this.
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So we can't teach a kid how to safely operate a motor vehicle until their 16. Let them decide if they want to smoke cigarettes until their 18. Let them Drink until their 21. Let them rent a car until their 25, but somehow 8 years old is a perfectly reasonable time to start teaching your children about proper gun use. I'm pretty sure when I was 8 I hadn't mastered multiplication tables yet. In little league they were still having us hit the ball off of a tee.

Bottom line for me is that if you own a gun you should be held responsible for letting it get into the wrong hands. That goes for anybody who wants to sell a gun too. It should be your responsibility to make a reasonable attempt to verify that the person buying it isn't looking to use it for violence. We can make that very easy by creating a national gun exchange that would run a check of whatever databases needed to be checked within a few minutes.
 
TurtleDude said:
Eight year olds should have been taught gun safety at that age.
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I was. I was hunting with my father by age 8. By age 10 I owned my own 12-guage, and by age 16 I was hunting on my own.

However, not all parents see to their children's education with regard to firearms. I agree that they should, but that isn't reality.
 

My father began my firearm education when I was 6 years old. I use to help him clean his firearms after his hunts for 2 years before he finally took me hunting with him. I never recall a time when I thought a firearm was a toy. However, was also able to distinguish between a real firearm and a toy firearm at a very young age. But that was because my father was a hunter and ensured that I, and my other siblings, were taught firearm safety. Not every child has that advantage.
 
TurtleDude said:
Eight year olds should have been taught gun safety at that age.
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I respect your views, but generally you can't teach gun safety to an 8 year old. Kids mature at different rates. there may be a few who can be taught, and will follow those instructions, but you really have no sure way of knowing. I waited until my kids were at least twelve to take them to the range. And I keep my guns in the safe.

I also learned it wasn't just guns I needed to lock up. I came home one day and found some nails in a board that had been placed in the trash. Also a couple of nails in the rafters that didn't belong there. After a "come to Jesus" meeting with my oldest son, I found that he and some pals had hooked up my framing nailer and fired some nails into various boards. He knew how to operate it just by watching me. Both of us got a lesson that day. I locked up everything in the shop I thought could be dangerous, and he couldn't mess with much of anything for a few days. My takeaway; boys are stupid....very, very, very stupid. Then I remembered me and some pals used to play dodge in front of fast moving locomotives.
 

The Instant Check already exists. And you are perfectly free to run your private sale through a dealer to get the buyer checked. Costs about $20 . However, that check is no guarantee that the person who actually gets the gun is legal to own it. Most people know if they are eligible or not; and if they aren't they get someone who is to buy the gun. That's what girlfriends are for.......
 
TurtleDude said:
Good question-police departments and the military do so thousands of times each year
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Two different arguments; how does a CC permit holder not know when a firearm is no longer where they placed it on their person. If there was better accounting by the agencies you mentioned, there would be few losses.
 
Rexedgar said:
Two different arguments; how does a CC permit holder not know when a firearm is no longer where they placed it on their person. If there was better accounting by the agencies you mentioned, there would be few losses.
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The first claim is true but we don't know the facts involving the gun in the jeep-do we?
 

At 8 I had a 410 shotgun that I hunted turkey and quail with my dad and granddad.

I am ok with a free UBC system
 
TurtleDude said:
The first claim is true but we don't know the facts involving the gun in the jeep-do we?
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Disclaimer; I didn’t read the article and wandered in this forum by mistake; you keep moving the goalposts and I’m going to have to fire my kicker! :mrgreen:
 

Agree.
 

And straw purchase's are illegal per current laws, so it seems all the bases are already covered under current laws.
 
Casper said:
And straw purchase's are illegal per current laws, so it seems all the bases are already covered under current laws.
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But super easy to do under current law
 
Tlrmln said:
What about current law makes straw purchases easy?
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I can buy a gun today even if I just got out of prison with no BC and sell it to anyone. Completely legal for the guy that sold it to me. He does not even have to ask my name
 
There is not enough info to decide if he is guilty of anything.
 
vegas giants said:
I can buy a gun today even if I just got out of prison with no BC and sell it to anyone. Completely legal for the guy that sold it to me. He does not even have to ask my name
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You also could buy gasoline to burn down a hospital or school - and all the materials and chemicals to make bombs for terrorist attacks without a BC or even giving your name.

None of that has anything to do with the topic of this thread.
 
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