Kerry Urges Iraq Pullout Deadline (1 Viewer)

[Navy Pride]

Well in the New York Times today John Kerry has said that we should cut and run again in Iraq just like he did in Nam.......He gave aid and comfort to the NVN and the VC then and he will give aid and comfort to the Terrorists in Iraq now..........

How low can this guy go............

 

[Stace]

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Got a link for this? I couldn't find anything recent about Kerry on their site.

 

[KCConservative]

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He also said it on Colmes today. The funniest thing, however, was when he said he might run again and that he wants to get "Bush out of there." Someone might want to inform Kerry that Bush won't be running. :lol:

 

[Stace]

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He also said it on Colmes today. The funniest thing, however, was when he said he might run again and that he wants to get "Bush out of there." Someone might want to inform Kerry that Bush won't be running. :lol:

Ok, I gotta admit, that would have had me laughing my head off.

 

[Navy Pride]

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Got a link for this? I couldn't find anything recent about Kerry on their site.

I heard it on the news today.....it was a NY Times oped............I got a link from NEWSMAX.........I know you libs don't like them but it is just the messenger in this case.....


http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/4/5/130333.shtml?s=lh


Wednesday, April 5, 2006 12:51 a.m. EDT
Kerry Urges Iraq Pullout Deadline



Defeated 2004 presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., says the U.S. must set a pair of deadlines for Iraqis - get a new government up and running by May 15, and agree to a U.S. pullout by year's end.

Moreover, Kerry writes that if the Iraqis fail to heed the first deadline, the U.S. should pull out immediately leaving the Iraqis to fend for themselves.

Writing in an op-ed piece in today's New York Times, Kerry insisted that Iraqis have shown that they only respond to deadlines, citing past U.S. imposed deadlines to transfer authority to a provisional government, and the demand to hold three elections.

 

[faminedynasty]

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Well in the New York Times today John Kerry has said that we should cut and run again in Iraq just like he did in Nam.......He gave aid and comfort to the NVN and the VC then and he will give aid and comfort to the Terrorists in Iraq now..........
How low can this guy go............

You're right, we should have let another 58,000 troops die in Vietnam so as to preserve our prestige.

 

[KCConservative]

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You're right, we should have let another 58,000 troops die in Vietnam so as to preserve our prestige.

let them die? let them die? How dare you. You can thank them later.

 

[Iriemon]

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Well in the New York Times today John Kerry has said that we should cut and run again in Iraq just like he did in Nam.......He gave aid and comfort to the NVN and the VC then and he will give aid and comfort to the Terrorists in Iraq now..........

How low can this guy go............

Jeez it's about time these folks get the guts to stand up, and recognize that this war is a huge mistake, it was based on misrepresentations and errors, it was and is wrong, and is harmful to our interests. We should have pulled the troops out 2 years ago. Set a date in 6 months, get out of there before this does become more of another Vietnam.

Then we as a nation should apologize for our leaders making such a gross mistake, and pay reparations to the Iraqis for the harm they have caused. It would be lot cheaper to do that than staying the course so Bush can pass the buck on the war like every other fiasco he's caused.

Admitting your mistakes, taking responsibility for them, and paying for them. That would be doing the right thing. But that concept it totally beyond the grasp of the conservative mind, apparently.

Hopefully more will follow Kerry's example.

 

[KCConservative]

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Jeez it's about time these folks get the guts to stand up, and recognize that this war is a huge mistake, it was based on misrepresentations and errors, it was and is wrong, and is harmful to our interests. We should have pulled the troops out 2 years ago. Set a date in 6 months, get out of there before this does become more of another Vietnam.

Then we as a nation should apologize for our leaders making such a gross mistake, and pay reparations to the Iraqis for the harm they have caused. It would be lot cheaper to do that than staying the course so Bush can pass the buck on the war like every other fiasco he's caused.

Admitting your mistakes, taking responsibility for them, and paying for them. That would be doing the right thing. But that concept it totally beyond the grasp of the conservative mind, apparently.

Hopefully more will follow Kerry's example.

These are yours and Mr. Kerry's uproven allegations (mistakes, errors, harmful, pass the buck, fiasco, etc.) and alternative opinions ( get out now, pay reparations, set a date, etc.). Someday, if either of you get to be President, you can wage war on your terms.

 

[Iriemon]

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These are yours and Mr. Kerry's uproven allegations (mistakes, errors, harmful, pass the buck, fiasco, etc.) and alternative opinions ( get out now, pay reparations, set a date, etc.). Someday, if either of you get to be President, you can wage war on your terms.

As I said: "Admitting your mistakes, taking responsibility for them, and paying for them. That would be doing the right thing. But that concept it totally beyond the grasp of the conservative mind, apparently."

 

[Captain America]

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As I said: "Admitting your mistakes, taking responsibility for them, and paying for them. That would be doing the right thing. But that concept it totally beyond the grasp of the conservative mind, apparently."

Not saying that I agree or disagree with you but I have come to learn that being a neocon conservative means never having to say you're sorry. :doh

 

[KCConservative]

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As I said: "Admitting your mistakes, taking responsibility for them, and paying for them. That would be doing the right thing."

Provided one subscribes to your notion that mistakes were made and we must pay for them. Again, your opinion is clouding the issue.

 

[shuamort]

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Well in the New York Times today John Kerry has said that we should cut and run again in Iraq just like he did in Nam.......He gave aid and comfort to the NVN and the VC then and he will give aid and comfort to the Terrorists in Iraq now..........

How low can this guy go............

The majority of Wisconsin agrees with him.

Wisconsin Votes for Troop Pullout

By margins overwhelming in some places and narrow in others, voters in 24 of 32 communities approved referendums Tuesday calling for the withdrawal of American troops.

So, is the cheese state giving aid and comfort too?

 

[Captain America]

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Gotta love a blue state! :rofl

Escape to Wisconsin!

Come smell our dairy air!

 

[Navy Pride]

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You're right, we should have let another 58,000 troops die in Vietnam so as to preserve our prestige.

We could have won that war in a heartbeat if it was not for people like you and Kerry....... Millions of Cambodians and Vietnamese died for nothing as well as those 58,000 Americans (6 of which were personal friends of mine).....

We will not make the same mistake in Iraq no matter if people like you and Kerry have lost the heart for it and want to cut and run...........

 

[Navy Pride]

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Yhe next thing that scum bag Kerry will be doing is calling people who served in Iraq Rapists and murderers just like he did in Nam..........

This man has no shame.........

 

[Iriemon]

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Yhe next thing that scum bag Kerry will be doing is calling people who served in Iraq Rapists and murderers just like he did in Nam..........

This man has no shame.........

No shame? Like people like you who intentionally misrepresent what others say to make an argument? And do it again and again?

Kerry never called people who served in Vietnam rapists and murderers. You have made this accusation before. You were called on it before and asked to back up your statement, and in true fashion, you cut and ran from your assertion rather than stand up like a man and back it up, or admit you were wrong. You know it is not true; and you state it again and again.

Show me where Kerry ever called people who served in Vietnam rapists or murderers, and I will apologize for calling you a liar. Admit you are wrong and I will retract my statement questioning your character.

 

[faminedynasty]

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We could have won that war in a heartbeat

Only if we killed every man woman and child in North Vietnam. Otherwise, they would have fought forever. Our politicians were stupid enough to underestimate the resolve of the North Vietnamese in their war for independence, but to sit here having seen that horrific war run its course and to pretend that we could have somehow won that war (short of the first solution I described) verges on insanity. You're right, millions died for nothing, and millions more would have died for nothing if it weren't for the efforts of the American people and soldiers returning from the war to stop that insanity.
It's no surprise that so many neo-cons didn't realize what a disaster Iraq would be, seeing as they still don't recognize the mistakes of Vietnam, and are still pretending that we could have achieved that elusive "peace with honor." You're still waiting for that light at the end of the tunnel in Iraq, and when that war proves un-winable, you'll probably blame me and soldiers who realize it is a war based on lies for that too, rather than the policies and politicians that got us into it.

 

[Donkey1499]

Re: John Kerry does it again.......

Well in the New York Times today John Kerry has said that we should cut and run again in Iraq just like he did in Nam.......He gave aid and comfort to the NVN and the VC then and he will give aid and comfort to the Terrorists in Iraq now..........

How low can this guy go............

Does this really surprise you? I mean, Kerry is a moron. I bet no one picked him to play baseball in grade school cuz if his team was ever scored against he'd hang up his glove and go home. He's a pansy is what he is. I'm so OVERJOYED that Kerry is not our president.

 

[Iriemon]

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Only if we killed every man woman and child in North Vietnam. Otherwise, they would have fought forever. Our politicians were stupid enough to underestimate the resolve of the North Vietnamese in their war for independence, but to sit here having seen that horrific war run its course and to pretend that we could have somehow won that war (short of the first solution I described) verges on insanity. You're right, millions died for nothing, and millions more would have died for nothing if it weren't for the efforts of the American people and soldiers returning from the war to stop that insanity.
It's no surprise that so many neo-cons didn't realize what a disaster Iraq would be, seeing as they still don't recognize the mistakes of Vietnam, and are still pretending that we could have achieved that elusive "peace with honor." You're still waiting for that light at the end of the tunnel in Iraq, and when that war proves un-winable, you'll probably blame me and soldiers who realize it is a war based on lies for that too, rather than the policies and politicians that got us into it.

That is exactly right. When war mongers talk about how the politicians are tying the military's hands, what they really are saying is that we should just slaughter all those in the groups that oppose us. They are really talking about mass murder of innocents and civilians.

The neocons misrepresented the facts about Iraq and misrepresented the consequences of an invasion. They told us how the Iraqis would be so happy we bombed and invaded their country, and we'd be there weeks or a few months and then it would be over and they'd happily turn their oil over to US companies.

Now, shockingly, that we have come to find out that lots of Iraqis, for some bizarre reason, oppose the occupation by foreign infidel forces. We have come to learn that the neocon statements about Iraq and Hussein and WMDs and involvement with Al-Qaeda and anthrax and reconsitituted nuclear weapons and mobile chemical labs and long range missles and hundreds of tons of chemical weapons and all the rest was just a bunch of crap.

And now, more and more I hear, the neocon solution for their mistakes, rather than admit them, apologize for them, and pay for them, is essentially genocide.

It's sick.

 

[Donkey1499]

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That is exactly right. When war mongers talk about how the politicians are tying the military's hands, what they really are saying is that we should just slaughter all those in the groups that oppose us. They are really talking about mass murder of innocents and civilians.

The neocon group misrepresented the fact about Iraq and misrepresented the consequences of an invasion. They told us how the Iraqis would be so happy we bombed and invaded their country, and we'd be there weeks or a few month and then it would be over.

Now, shockingly, that we have come to find out that lots of Iraqis for some bizarre reason oppose our occupation. We have come to learn that the neocon statements about Iraq and Hussein and WMDs and involvement with Al-Qaeda and anthrax and reconsitituted nuclear weapons and mobile chemical labs and long range missles and hundreds of tons of chemical weapons and all the rest was a bunch of crap.

And now, more and more I hear, the neocon solution for their mistakes, rather than admit them, apologize for them, and pay for ithe, is essentially genocide.

It's sick.

So, all who support the war just want to see the "slaughter [of] all those in the group that oppose us"? That's just wrong. I'm just as happy to them captured as I am to see them dead.

Helping the Iraqis is just such and evil-conservative thing to do. God forbid we should lend aid to anyone. Let's just be isolationists and let these evil dictators rule crookedly.

Some libs just sicken me!

 

[Iriemon]

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So, all who support the war just want to see the "slaughter [of] all those in the group that oppose us"? That's just wrong. I'm just as happy to them captured as I am to see them dead.

Helping the Iraqis is just such and evil-conservative thing to do. God forbid we should lend aid to anyone. Let's just be isolationists and let these evil dictators rule crookedly.

Some libs just sicken me!

Sorry if I wasn't clear; I did not sall "all who support the war" are in favor of slaughter, I said "more and more I hear" this being suggested, explicitly or implictly. IMO it is still a small minority who (at least publicly) propose this; though I hear it more and more. Usually phrased in terms of how politicians interfere with the military doing its job or statments to that effect. What exactly are politicians doing that are interfering with the military doing its job? In Iraq? In Vietnam?

 

[Donkey1499]

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Sorry if I wasn't clear; I did not sall "all who support the war" are in favor of slaughter, I said "more and more I hear" this being suggested, explicitly or implictly. IMO it is still a small minority who (at least publicly) propose this; though I hear it more and more. Usually phrased in terms of how politicians interfere with the military doing its job or statments to that effect. What exactly are politicians doing that are interfering with the military doing its job? In Iraq? In Vietnam?

They are trying to remove them from the battlefield before the battle is won. Does the quarterback leave the field before a TD if they are 1st and Goal? No, cuz that would be ridiculous. Pulling out of Iraq would create an even worse disaster. What do you think the terrorists learned from our withdrawl from Mogudishu? That America is weak, and we're not. You anti-war people just need to have PATIENCE. You ain't gonna win a war overnight. Stuff like this takes TIME.

 

[Iriemon]

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They are trying to remove them from the battlefield before the battle is won. Does the quarterback leave the field before a TD if they are 1st and Goal? No, cuz that would be ridiculous. Pulling out of Iraq would create an even worse disaster. What do you think the terrorists learned from our withdrawl from Mogudishu? That America is weak, and we're not. You anti-war people just need to have PATIENCE. You ain't gonna win a war overnight. Stuff like this takes TIME.

History does not support your view that an occupied people will accept their occupation over time.

Particularly an occupation by infidels based on false pretext.

 

[Donkey1499]

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History does not support your view that an occupied people will accept their occupation over time.

Particularly an occupation by infidels based on false pretext.

They seem to have adopted an infidel gov't very quickly. Most of em' flocked to the polls!