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Kenya Red Cross: 22 dead in Upscale Mall Attack......

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Heya Eco.....I hope this isn't anywhere around you my brutha. Terrorist attack. If it is.....stay alert and watch your six. Sua Sponte!
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Gunmen threw grenades and opened fire Saturday killing at least 22 people in an attack targeting non-Muslims at an upscale mall in Kenya's capital that was hosting a children's day event, a Red Cross official and witnesses said.

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The attackers remained inside and firing subsided as military surrounded the mall hours after the attack. People continued to trickle out from hiding places within the Westgate mall, which is frequented by expatriates and rich Kenyans in Nairobi's affluent Westlands neighborhood.

Kenya Red Cross official Abbas Gullet said at least 22 people were killed in the attack that police blamed on terrorists. He said the death toll would likely rise.

Somali's rebel group al-Shabab vowed in late 2011 to carry out a large-scale attack in Nairobi in retaliation for Kenya's sending of troops into Somalia to fight the Islamic insurgents

The Westgate mall, with shops like Nike, Adidas and Bose, has Israeli ownership, and security personnel have in the past identified the mall as a likely terror target in the city.

"The gunmen told Muslims to stand up and leave. They were safe, and non-Muslims would be targeted," he said.....snip~

Kenya Red Cross: 22 dead in upscale mall attack
Associated Press – 16 mins ago
 

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I've been there once, it was strange to see a western looking mall.

Al Shabab is pissed because they lost Mogadishu and most of the country. A little terrorism in Kenya is better than a whole country ruled by terrorists regularly pouring into Kenya.
 

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I've been there once, it was strange to see a western looking mall.

Al Shabab is pissed because they lost Mogadishu and most of the country. A little terrorism in Kenya is better than a whole country ruled by terrorists regularly pouring into Kenya.

Yeah well.....I wasn't worried about who or How Kenya is being ruled. My only concern was for one of mine.
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Why aren't we bringing democracy and freedom to Somalia?
 

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The Brits are sending a Rapid Deployment Team to help and assist the Kenyans. 175 wounded and the News are saying there are Americans among the wounded. Total has risen to 59. 4 Children killed too.


Kenya minister says 59 killed in mall attack

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The Kenyan military remained in a tense standoff with Islamic extremists Sunday, as the toll rose to 59 dead, including children, and 175 wounded in the attack at an upscale mall, a Kenyan minister said.

Multiple barrages of gunfire erupted Sunday morning from inside the building where hostages are being held by militants. The radicals attacked the mall Saturday and remained inside throughout the night.

Ten to 15 attackers remain in the mall and Kenyan forces control the security cameras inside the shopping center, Lenku said. Combined military and police forces surrounded the mall in the Westlands neighborhood of Nairobi, which is frequented by foreigners and wealthy Kenyans.

There was some good news on Sunday, as Kenyan media reported that several people in hiding in the mall escaped to safety, suggesting that not everyone who is still inside is being held by al-Shabab.....snip~

Kenya minister says 59 killed in mall attack
 

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Three of the alleged attackers are from the United States, two are from Somalia and there is one each from Canada, Finland, Kenya and the United Kingdom. Death toll rises to 68 and more than 175 injured.
 

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Three of the alleged attackers are from the United States, two are from Somalia and there is one each from Canada, Finland, Kenya and the United Kingdom. Death toll rises to 68 and more than 175 injured.

Yeah that's what I got on it too RDS.....although I didn't have anything on who all the attackers were. Do you have a link on that?



Kenyan forces say they rescued 'most' hostages

Kenya's military said late Sunday it had rescued "most" of the remaining hostages held by al-Qaida-linked militants in an upscale Nairobi mall after launching a major operation to end a two-day standoff that had already killed 68 people.

The military assault, which began shortly before sundown, came as two helicopters circled the mall, with one skimming very close to the roof. A loud explosion rang out, far larger than any previous grenade blast or gunfire volley.

"This will end tonight. Our forces will prevail. Kenyans are standing firm against aggression, and we will win," Kenya's National Disaster Operation Centre said on Twitter

A United States State Department spokeswoman condemned the "despicable massacre of innocent men, women and children." U.S. law enforcement, military and civilian personnel in Nairobi were providing advance and assistance as requested by Kenya, spokeswoman Marie Harf said.

Britain's prime minister, in confirming the deaths of three British nationals, told the country to "prepare ourselves for further bad news."

Westgate Mall is at least partially owned by Israelis, and reports circulated that Israeli commandos were on the ground to assist in the response. Four restaurants inside the mall are Israeli-run or owned.

Kenyans and foreigners were among those confirmed dead, including British, French, Canadians, Indians, a Ghanaian, a South African and a Chinese woman......snip

Kenyan forces say they rescued 'most' hostages
 

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Yeah that's what I got on it too RDS.....although I didn't have anything on who all the attackers were. Do you have a link on that?



Kenyan forces say they rescued 'most' hostages

Kenya's military said late Sunday it had rescued "most" of the remaining hostages held by al-Qaida-linked militants in an upscale Nairobi mall after launching a major operation to end a two-day standoff that had already killed 68 people.

The military assault, which began shortly before sundown, came as two helicopters circled the mall, with one skimming very close to the roof. A loud explosion rang out, far larger than any previous grenade blast or gunfire volley.

"This will end tonight. Our forces will prevail. Kenyans are standing firm against aggression, and we will win," Kenya's National Disaster Operation Centre said on Twitter

A United States State Department spokeswoman condemned the "despicable massacre of innocent men, women and children." U.S. law enforcement, military and civilian personnel in Nairobi were providing advance and assistance as requested by Kenya, spokeswoman Marie Harf said.

Britain's prime minister, in confirming the deaths of three British nationals, told the country to "prepare ourselves for further bad news."

Westgate Mall is at least partially owned by Israelis, and reports circulated that Israeli commandos were on the ground to assist in the response. Four restaurants inside the mall are Israeli-run or owned.

Kenyans and foreigners were among those confirmed dead, including British, French, Canadians, Indians, a Ghanaian, a South African and a Chinese woman......snip

Kenyan forces say they rescued 'most' hostages

Kenya mall attack: Death toll rises to 68 - CNN.com
 

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The Brits are sending a Rapid Deployment Team to help and assist the Kenyans

They're rapid deployment as in consul staff - not anti-terrorist specialists. Luckily, Israel seems to have security advisors nearby advising the Kenyans.

2011: It has been reported that Israeli "security specialists" are in Nairobi advising Kenya's security services. Without confirming this, Israel's Minister for Strategic Affairs, Yuval Steinitz, told the Associated Press: "Israel is always ready to help other countries, other friendly countries, in combating terrorism."

Personally I'd prefer to have seen UK SAS or SBS personnel on the ground doing their bit. (Not that Israel isn't experienced in this - but to prevent any anti-Israel retaliation or feeling afterwards)
 

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They're rapid deployment as in consul staff - not anti-terrorist specialists. Luckily, Israel seems to have security advisors nearby advising the Kenyans.



Personally I'd prefer to have seen UK SAS or SBS personnel on the ground doing their bit. (Not that Israel isn't experienced in this - but to prevent any anti-Israel retaliation or feeling afterwards)

Yeah I figured Eco would be up on it.....plus like I said he is an Army Brutha.....and one of my peeps. So that's where my concern was.
 
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