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Kenosha killer palled around with civil war inciters.

Nickyjo said:
The smear appears to have affected the judgment of the authorities who have charged him with two counts of first degree homicide. Send your story to the DA.
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It's no story, it's a list of the facts based on the available evidence.

I suspect charging him with murder had little to do with the facts, and a LOT to do with not giving the rioting left wing thugs more excuses to loot, set fires and destroy ****. The fact that they charged him with first degree murder, a charge that there is no way in hell they could ever convict him of, should have tipped you all off to what they were doing.

This reminds me of the Trayvon Martin shooting. The DA had no intention of charging Zimmerman with murder because they knew it was self defense. The only reason they did charge him was because the story ended up going national and they had to appease Al Sharpton and his band of thugs or face rioting and looting themselves.

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Oh look more misinformation to try to justify your satanic veneration of criminals and nazi-esk political adgenda, with it's poltical AG/Judges destroying any remaining faith in American law….:roll:

Democratic activists(a subset of the whole):
1. Overtly advocate racism and racial laws
2. Openly commit/promote political violence
3. Overtly advocate for our legal system to be replaced with political court/police
4. Promote unfundable utopian socialism
5. Openly advocate destruction of family/church preferring political allegiance
6. Openly organize, advocate, fund and encourage street violence
7. Openly scapegoat people solely on association
8. Promote a utopian vision, if not for….
9. Spend a great deal of effort on repeating debunked and overly false narratives
10. Venerate lifelong violent criminals as hero
11. Openly in a political alliance with the elites/political class despite populist messaging
12. Openly speak about milltary coup
13. Openly inflate their infuence and popularity

hmmmm…..what political groups ever structure themselves like that? You're fighting "neo-nazi's" you say....I wonder...have you ever read book on these nazis or racist southern democrats of old, there is certianly a lot of parellels today, but it's not us big tent righties. No, obviously it the radicals that have ideas outside every political norms of the last 50 years :doh

And no my satanic friends, Kyle Rittenhouse is very much the definition of a do-gooder.

"Out of state" - Antioch, Illinois has 14,000 people, is ont he border and a 31 drive away from central Kenosha, a city of 100,000 people. Hmmm, why ever might one feel apart of that community where one works and is one's closest 'metro'?

He was attacked and out of opinions all 3 times.

Yes, he would have hang around other armed people protecting property(some of who are no doubt troublesome); You've got to being either young and innocent (like him), troublesome or have a dog in the fight to be in this kind of situation. The act remains noble, these businesses are not covered by insurance; these areas are right beside residential areas, and make no mistake, these looters and lifelong criminals burning his city to the ground, many far more out of town (different areas) are the problem; every one is on video professing their intent to cause trouble, destruction and provoke fights. :roll: Just as Rittenhouse is there, in his innocence, trying to stand up for his community as a emt, clean up crew and security guard.

Alas, here I am talking to posters who think it's justified to riot, burn and loot over outrage that police stopping a violent statuary rapist(3 kids with-a 17 year old) armed with a knife, who attacked police, was in trouble for aggressively violating a restraining order, and who's current condition likely saved women/children countless physical abuse, if not death. To anyone who would see a monster like Blake free and good cops in jail. No, appealing to reason isn't really appropriate. You're either extremely nieve or satanic…

These men shot are obviously not nice, peaceful protesters either - they were violent criminal rioters looking for trouble….they were criminals even before this event. Police should have had each one in jail. Then Rittenhouse could have been an everyday hero like 17 year old should be, I guarantee he would prefer that or at least would in time. Alas, here we are, and Rittenhouse will be smeared by sick people like you guys for being a naive boy with strong character and intention.
 
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Grim17 said:
It's no story, it's a list of the facts based on the available evidence.

I suspect charging him with murder had little to do with the facts, and a LOT to do with not giving the rioting left wing thugs more excuses to loot, set fires and destroy ****. The fact that they charged him with first degree murder, a charge that there is no way in hell they could ever convict him of, should have tipped you all off to what they were doing.

This reminds me of the Trayvon Martin shooting. The DA had no intention of charging Zimmerman with murder because they knew it was self defense. The only reason they did charge him was because the story ended up going national and they had to appease Al Sharpton and his band of thugs or face rioting and looting themselves.

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I get it. Law and order applies only to some people.
 
Nickyjo said:
I get it. Law and order applies only to some people.
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Obviously you don't get it at all... Or you actually do get it, but will never say so because it runs counter to your political agenda.

Please help me to understand why you and so many others on the left believe that facts, honesty and being truthful, are never more important than loyalty to your political agenda?

I seriously can not comprehend how you or anyone else, regardless of their politics, can blatantly dismiss the facts, ignore the law, and then make baseless assertions in an effort to deceive people. I come from an era where we were taught to never sacrifice our integrity for politics. For me, honesty always comes before a political agenda.
 
Phys251 said:
Rittenhouse has attracted a cult following in more than one sense of the phrase. These right-wing extremists have been looking for any excuse to go on murderous rampages, and they are very pleased when they see one of their own do it.

Rittenhouse deserves to be locked away for the rest of his sorry life. Send a message to other wanna-be thugs that that is how they will end up.
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Antifa & BLM have been burning and murdering for months and all you have to say is that the Right Wing extremists have been looking for an excuse.

4 months......think about it.

Got any more bright observations?
 
RetiredUSN said:
Antifa & BLM have been burning and murdering for months and all you have to say is that the Right Wing extremists have been looking for an excuse.

4 months......think about it.

Got any more bright observations?
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We need to lock him up to send a clear message to other right-wing extremists that vigilante violence is completely unacceptable. Otherwise those goons won't just masquerade as paramilitary: They'll become the paramilitary.
 
jotathought said:
What about George Floyd (Aggravated Robbery, habitual offender, home invasions, etc.), Jacob Blake (Sexual assault, domestic abuse, restraining order violation) and Michael Brown (Robbery and assault) who the left embrace?
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How do you embrace dead men?
 
Guyzilla said:
Kenosha killer spent the day with Boogaloo terrorists. Those that are inciting a civil war. Using NAzi signage.

The killer was NOT some do gooder that just wants a peaceful society. HE WAS HANGING WITH those starting the civil war.
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Avowed 'boogaloo boi' says he roamed Kenosha streets with Kyle Rittenhouse before shootings

An adherent to the far-right boogaloo movement — whose most extreme followers are reportedly looking to spark a civil war — was with Kyle Rittenhouse last week in Kenosha, Wisconsin, before the Antioch teenager allegedly opened fire on protesters, killing two and wounding another.

Ryan Balch, an Army veteran from West Bend, Wisconsin, who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, said he met Rittenhouse in the lead up to last Tuesday’s shootings and spent much of the day with him. While Balch said Rittenhouse “had no connection” to the loosely organized group, he noted that as many as 32 boogaloo adherents were in Kenosha that day.

Balch, who has used social media to post Nazi propaganda and white nationalist messaging, described himself in a series of Facebook messages to the Sun-Times as a “Boog Boi.” According to the Anti-Defamation League, white supremacists, militia members and other extremists use the phrase boogaloo as “shorthand for a future civil war.”

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Though Balch said he was separated from Rittenhouse and didn’t witness the shootings, his account offers a window into the accused killer’s movements before the demonstration turned violent. Balch said Rittenhouse “seemed appropriately scared” but didn’t appear “frightened.”

Read more: Avowed ‘boogaloo boi’ Ryan Balch says he roamed Kenosha streets with Kyle Rittenhouse before shootings - Chicago Sun-Times
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Everyone knows Trump supporter Kyle Rittenhouse is a white nationalist lunatic who just wanted to shoot protestors.

This is only controversial to the folks that are foaming at the mouth for a 2nd civil war (conducted by OTHERS, of course. They’ll sit on their couches tsk tsking “Democrat mayors).


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Grim17 said:
Vigilante
a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the processes of law are viewed as inadequate)
broadly : a self-appointed doer of justice

Sorry, but the word "vigilante" does not apply. Was he there to help suppress crime, yes... Was he there to punish crime or hand out his own form of justice, no. What he did was legally defend himself according to Wisconsin law, as the video evidence clearly shows.

If you have evidence to the contrary that shows he wasn't acting in self defense and instead shows him attempting to make a citizens arrest or pronouncing sentence on anyone who had committed a crime, then I encourage you to post it.




So now you deliberately misrepresent my position... As you are well aware, in my first response to you on this thread I stated that he was not a hero.

That begs the question, why do you feel the need to be dishonest?




I believe his lawyer because there's no reason not to. First, nobody has disputed the assertion that the gun wasn't his and second, if it was his, that wouldn't have any baring what so ever on him acting in self defense. His right to self defense according to Wisconsin law, isn't abridged based on whether of not he brought it across state lines or not.



That's correct, OJ did murder Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman. I knew that was the case based on the evidence presented at trial.
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A self-appointed doer of justice. In this case, he made himself the police, the judge, the jury, and the executioner.

Of course you believe his lawyer. You think this guy is a hero, right?
 
Phys251 said:
We need to lock him up to send a clear message to other right-wing extremists that vigilante violence is completely unacceptable. Otherwise those goons won't just masquerade as paramilitary: They'll become the paramilitary.
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But rioting is. :roll:
 
Grim17 said:
Obviously you don't get it at all... Or you actually do get it, but will never say so because it runs counter to your political agenda.

Please help me to understand why you and so many others on the left believe that facts, honesty and being truthful, are never more important than loyalty to your political agenda?

I seriously can not comprehend how you or anyone else, regardless of their politics, can blatantly dismiss the facts, ignore the law, and then make baseless assertions in an effort to deceive people. I come from an era where we were taught to never sacrifice our integrity for politics. For me, honesty always comes before a political agenda.
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Please tell me how people on the right are so paranoid to believe what you posted and I responded to -- that you believe the "dark shadows" fantasies that Trump spews. The worst the officials can be accused of in this case is over-charging, sort of thing that happens a lot to induce pleas.
 
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Guyzilla said:
Kenosha killer spent the day with Boogaloo terrorists. Those that are inciting a civil war. Using NAzi signage.

The killer was NOT some do gooder that just wants a peaceful society. HE WAS HANGING WITH those starting the civil war.
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Avowed 'boogaloo boi' says he roamed Kenosha streets with Kyle Rittenhouse before shootings

An adherent to the far-right boogaloo movement — whose most extreme followers are reportedly looking to spark a civil war — was with Kyle Rittenhouse last week in Kenosha, Wisconsin, before the Antioch teenager allegedly opened fire on protesters, killing two and wounding another.

Ryan Balch, an Army veteran from West Bend, Wisconsin, who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, said he met Rittenhouse in the lead up to last Tuesday’s shootings and spent much of the day with him. While Balch said Rittenhouse “had no connection” to the loosely organized group, he noted that as many as 32 boogaloo adherents were in Kenosha that day.

Balch, who has used social media to post Nazi propaganda and white nationalist messaging, described himself in a series of Facebook messages to the Sun-Times as a “Boog Boi.” According to the Anti-Defamation League, white supremacists, militia members and other extremists use the phrase boogaloo as “shorthand for a future civil war.”

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Though Balch said he was separated from Rittenhouse and didn’t witness the shootings, his account offers a window into the accused killer’s movements before the demonstration turned violent. Balch said Rittenhouse “seemed appropriately scared” but didn’t appear “frightened.”

Read more: Avowed ‘boogaloo boi’ Ryan Balch says he roamed Kenosha streets with Kyle Rittenhouse before shootings - Chicago Sun-Times
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Didn't we learn from Obama that guilt by association is not a thing?
 
tres borrachos said:
A self-appointed doer of justice. In this case, he made himself the police, the judge, the jury, and the executioner.

Of course you believe his lawyer. You think this guy is a hero, right?
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That of course is a lie. He was legally acting in self defense and you damned well know it. All you have to do is watch the video evidence and it's clear. The shooting in Portland the other night however, was a case of someone acting as judge, jury and executioner... Literally.

Speaking of lies, why do you once again choose to misrepresent my views? Are your arguments so weak and indefensible that you believe that misrepresenting and trying to slander those you disagree with has become your only recourse? If not, then why do you do it?
 
Nickyjo said:
Please tell me how people on the right are so paranoid to believe what you posted and I responded to -- that you believe the "dark shadows" fantasies that Trump spews. The worst the officials can be accused of in this case is over-charging, sort of thing that happens a lot to induce pleas.
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I'm not paranoid and I certainly don't parrot the views of Donald Trump or anyone else. I evaluate situations by examining the known facts and come to my own conclusions... Always have and always will.

My comments to you were based on you implying that there is a different set of laws depending on the race of both offender and victim. As for the case against Rittenhouse, they have definitely over charged him and in a perfect world (one in which there weren't leftist running around trying to burn cities to the ground if people don't bend the knee) the kid would have never been charged with anything pertaining to shooting the people who were chasing him down. I agree there are other things he could be charged with, but shooting those people was clearly an act of self defense according to Wisconsin law.
 
jotathought said:
What about George Floyd (Aggravated Robbery, habitual offender, home invasions, etc.), Jacob Blake (Sexual assault, domestic abuse, restraining order violation) and Michael Brown (Robbery and assault) who the left embrace?
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How many people did they kill?
 
Grim17 said:
That of course is a lie. He was legally acting in self defense and you damned well know it. All you have to do is watch the video evidence and it's clear. The shooting in Portland the other night however, was a case of someone acting as judge, jury and executioner... Literally.

Speaking of lies, why do you once again choose to misrepresent my views? Are your arguments so weak and indefensible that you believe that misrepresenting and trying to slander those you disagree with has become your only recourse? If not, then why do you do it?
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He was charged with crimes. The prosecutor and the police disagree with you.

Maybe you can sign on to be his legal representation?
 
RetiredUSN said:
But rioting is. :roll:
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Thankfully, some semblance of justice still exists in America so that right-wing extremists such as Kyle can be thrown into prison until they rot. :thumbs:
 
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