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Keeping Illegal Mexicans Out Of The USA

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At least Trump wanted to build a border wall between the USA and Mexico, so far Biden has done nothing to keep illegals out. I am all fine and dandy, as Trump was, with Mexicans coming over to the USA LEGALLY by following proper LEGA PROCEDURES. The purpose of a border wall is to keep ILLEGALS out. It makes sense to not let people into the USA illegally, or do you want Mexicans to be able to waltz on over here willy nilly?
 

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At least Trump wanted to build a border wall between the USA and Mexico, so far Biden has done nothing to keep illegals out. I am all fine and dandy, as Trump was, with Mexicans coming over to the USA LEGALLY by following proper LEGA PROCEDURES. The purpose of a border wall is to keep ILLEGALS out. It makes sense to not let people into the USA illegally, or do you want Mexicans to be able to waltz on over here willy nilly?
I don't want them to waltz on over, I'd like to see something more flamboyant - a sashay, or perhaps cartwheels. Synchronized backflips? I'd pay at least a few bucks per Illegal to see that!

By the way, Trump was not OK with legal immigration which is why he curtailed it so drastically as one of his first actions. He really didn't want those brown people coming in - legally or otherwise.
 
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At least Trump wanted to build a border wall between the USA and Mexico, so far Biden has done nothing to keep illegals out. I am all fine and dandy, as Trump was, with Mexicans coming over to the USA LEGALLY by following proper LEGA PROCEDURES. The purpose of a border wall is to keep ILLEGALS out. It makes sense to not let people into the USA illegally, or do you want Mexicans to be able to waltz on over here willy nilly?
Not to mention the human trafficking (under age as well) and narco trafficking and all the crime that comes along with those. Securing the border has been shown to tamp those activities down as well.
 

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At least Trump wanted to build a border wall between the USA and Mexico, so far Biden has done nothing to keep illegals out. I am all fine and dandy, as Trump was, with Mexicans coming over to the USA LEGALLY by following proper LEGA PROCEDURES. The purpose of a border wall is to keep ILLEGALS out. It makes sense to not let people into the USA illegally, or do you want Mexicans to be able to waltz on over here willy nilly?

Right wingers always say they are fine with legal immigration but never want to make that process easier.
 

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Not to mention the human trafficking (under age as well) and narco trafficking and all the crime that comes along with those. Securing the border has been shown to tamp those activities down as well.

If your goal is improved border security, a 1500 mile wall is a ludicrously inefficient way to spend your money. So why are you for it?
 

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At least Trump wanted to build a border wall between the USA and Mexico, so far Biden has done nothing to keep illegals out. I am all fine and dandy, as Trump was, with Mexicans coming over to the USA LEGALLY by following proper LEGA PROCEDURES. The purpose of a border wall is to keep ILLEGALS out. It makes sense to not let people into the USA illegally, or do you want Mexicans to be able to waltz on over here willy nilly?

What percentage of those that enter illegally are Mexican nationals?
 

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Walls (fixed fortifications) can only do so much. Just like the French Maginot line, the Germans went around it to invade France. Easy-peasy-Japanesy.

The real "wall" happens by not allowing illegals once here to defraud our system through their anchor babies for billion of dollars in welfare, entitlements, free healthcare, free education, free food, etc. So, of course they will find a way in, especially where there are ZERO disincentives to their illegal act of coming here. One thing that must happen is anyone who has used a fake/stolen social security number should be immediately convicted of a felony, deported, and that person NEVER allowed back in.

We need a national ID, and nobody who is here who can't prove legal residency should be able to drive a car, use healthcare, put a kid in school, rent an apartment, nothing. Some nations are like that. You sneak in and then try to disapear into the country and then find a job or rent an apartment, and you are fleshed out.

And another thing; just like people who complain about cartels and drug crime, but who are recreational users created the market and the cartels, the same goes for illegal alien workers. So, every one of you who hires a nanny, a housekeeper, a gardener, a painter, or who has your car washed at a car wash, or occasionally eats at a taco truck. YOU are all contributing to the economic incentive for these illegals to come here when you FAIL to question or consider that most of those workers are illegal aliens. A good start is to mow your own lawn, wash your own car, and clean your own house. Especially when YOU KNOW that below minimum wage worker giving you such a great deal is probably illegal. People who hire illegals have to room to complain about people coming across the border.


Lastly, birth right citizenship is about as dumb as putting your own gun to your own head. We have allowed our nation and culture to be destroyed by open or unprotected borders and a failure to have a coherent punative immigration disensentive for law breakers, while encourging legal immigration from the better nations and peoples around the world like we used to before 1965 when we opened the door to endless chain migration from the worst places.
 

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Walls (fixed fortifications) can only do so much. Just like the French Maginot line, the Germans went around it to invade France. Easy-peasy-Japanesy.

The real "wall" happens by not allowing illegals once here to defraud our system through their anchor babies for billion of dollars in welfare, entitlements, free healthcare, free education, free food, etc. So, of course they will find a way in, especially where there are ZERO disincentives to their illegal act of coming here. One thing that must happen is anyone who has used a fake/stolen social security number should be immediately convicted of a felony, deported, and that person NEVER allowed back in.

We need a national ID, and nobody who is here who can't prove legal residency should be able to drive a car, use healthcare, put a kid in school, rent an apartment, nothing. Some nations are like that. You sneak in and then try to disapear into the country and then find a job or rent an apartment, and you are fleshed out.

And another thing; just like people who complain about cartels and drug crime, but who are recreational users created the market and the cartels, the same goes for illegal alien workers. So, every one of you who hires a nanny, a housekeeper, a gardener, a painter, or who has your car washed at a car wash, or occasionally eats at a taco truck. YOU are all contributing to the economic incentive for these illegals to come here when you FAIL to question or consider that most of those workers are illegal aliens. A good start is to mow your own lawn, wash your own car, and clean your own house. Especially when YOU KNOW that below minimum wage worker giving you such a great deal is probably illegal. People who hire illegals have to room to complain about people coming across the border.


Lastly, birth right citizenship is about as dumb as putting your own gun to your own head. We have allowed our nation and culture to be destroyed by open borders.


If you don't want birthright citizenship, you are going to have to amend the constitution...
 

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At least Trump wanted to build a border wall between the USA and Mexico, so far Biden has done nothing to keep illegals out. I am all fine and dandy, as Trump was, with Mexicans coming over to the USA LEGALLY by following proper LEGA PROCEDURES. The purpose of a border wall is to keep ILLEGALS out. It makes sense to not let people into the USA illegally, or do you want Mexicans to be able to waltz on over here willy nilly?
Here's my plan:

 

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If you don't want birthright citizenship, you are going to have to amend the constitution...
Or a civil war. Who knows what the future holds??
 

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Do you live on stolen Native American and/or Mexican land?
 

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At least Trump wanted to build a border wall between the USA and Mexico, so far Biden has done nothing to keep illegals out. I am all fine and dandy, as Trump was, with Mexicans coming over to the USA LEGALLY by following proper LEGA PROCEDURES. The purpose of a border wall is to keep ILLEGALS out. It makes sense to not let people into the USA illegally, or do you want Mexicans to be able to waltz on over here willy nilly?
You obviously spent a lot of time thinking about this OP before you posted. Your opinions are nuanced, detailed and present a brand new approach to the topic.
 

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At least Trump wanted to build a border wall between the USA and Mexico, so far Biden has done nothing to keep illegals out. I am all fine and dandy, as Trump was, with Mexicans coming over to the USA LEGALLY by following proper LEGA PROCEDURES. The purpose of a border wall is to keep ILLEGALS out. It makes sense to not let people into the USA illegally, or do you want Mexicans to be able to waltz on over here willy nilly?
“Illegal Mexicans”?

Lol
 

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Right wingers always say they are fine with legal immigration but never want to make that process easier.
So you want people to be able to just come on over here willy nilly?
 

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If your goal is improved border security, a 1500 mile wall is a ludicrously inefficient way to spend your money. So why are you for it?
What do you suggest?
 

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Walls (fixed fortifications) can only do so much. Just like the French Maginot line, the Germans went around it to invade France. Easy-peasy-Japanesy.
That's why we shouldn't give them the option of going around it, the border wall should go from the Gulf of Mexico all the way to the Pacific Ocean.
 

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How much Covid are these criminals carrying at the border? Looks like Obama’s ISIS waltzing through. Good grief
 

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Especially not Mexicans! Amirite?
Im all fine and dandy with Mexicans coming into the USA legally. Its people who come into the USA illegally, including but not limited to Mexicans that do so, that I have a problem with.
 
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