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Karl Rove describes Barack Obama as 'articulate'

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Jeez.... The same people who wanted to brand Biden as a rascist for calling Obama clean are completely ignoring the issue now. Why? Because Rove said Obama was "articulate' in pretty much the same way Biden referred to Obama. What unmitigated hypocrites.

The choices are very simple. Either both are rascists, or both don't know how to talk properly without putting their feet in their mouths. Which is it?


Article, along with video of Rove, is here.
 
I don't think I've ever heard anyone use the word "articulate" to describe a white person.
 
Jeez.... The same people who wanted to brand Biden as a rascist for calling Obama clean are completely ignoring the issue now. Why? Because Rove said Obama was "articulate' in pretty much the same way Biden referred to Obama. What unmitigated hypocrites.

The choices are very simple. Either both are rascists, or both don't know how to talk properly without putting their feet in their mouths. Which is it?


Article, along with video of Rove, is here.

Biden referred to him as a clean cut black man, I'm not seeing where Rove brought race into it
 
I really don't see why some black people see a white man calling a black guy "articulate" as an insult. is he not articulate? It's that "What....so cause he's black he's gotta speak like a nigguh mentality" I try to stay away from. This seems like a looking for trouble where there is none situation. I'll have to go with TOT on this one(shocking). What Biden said sounded pretty frigging racist, I didn't pass judgment on it or analyze it too much but it just sounded racist. What Rove said however just doesn't seem racist. Had he said "He is charismatic. He is an articulate black man" I'd probably be the first to scream off with his head.
 
Look, simply calling a person "articulate" is not racist. Obama clearly IS articulate. This doesn't make him qualified to be President, but it is very articulate and communicates very well with his audience. What is racist about saying these things?
 
I really don't see why some black people see a white man calling a black guy "articulate" as an insult. is he not articulate? It's that "What....so cause he's black he's gotta speak like a nigguh mentality" I try to stay away from. This seems like a looking for trouble where there is none situation. I'll have to go with TOT on this one(shocking). What Biden said sounded pretty frigging racist, I didn't pass judgment on it or analyze it too much but it just sounded racist. What Rove said however just doesn't seem racist. Had he said "He is charismatic. He is an articulate black man" I'd probably be the first to scream off with his head.

You're very articlulate. :lol:
 
Jeez.... The same people who wanted to brand Biden as a rascist for calling Obama clean are completely ignoring the issue now. Why? Because Rove said Obama was "articulate' in pretty much the same way Biden referred to Obama. What unmitigated hypocrites.

The choices are very simple. Either both are rascists, or both don't know how to talk properly without putting their feet in their mouths. Which is it?


Article, along with video of Rove, is here.
To be fair I do not think any of these guys meant anything negative in their comments and that it is only partisan hacks who would try to twist these specific words into a racial issue.
 
Look, simply calling a person "articulate" is not racist. Obama clearly IS articulate. This doesn't make him qualified to be President, but it is very articulate and communicates very well with his audience. What is racist about saying these things?
One interesting point is that Bush is clearly not articulate and he was clearly not qualified to be President as his record has sadly shown.

Obama is not only articulate but he is bright and has a point of political view that is much more mainstream today than Bush's seemingly "Crack" induced logic that's led us into a war and to become the most hated nation in the world today.


Before Bush was there ever a time that America was so despised politically around the world than it is today? NO is my answer.
 
To be fair I do not think any of these guys meant anything negative in their comments and that it is only partisan hacks who would try to twist these specific words into a racial issue.

I agree with you there, Champs. I wish people would focus on more important things.
 
People need to cut Rove some slack here.


It must be frustrating for him to wait so many years hoping he might some day apply the term to the man who hired him to do his dirty work, and it must have just popped out because of the obvious deservedness of the one to whom he did appy it.

Rather like hoping in vain that one might someday call Lyle Lovett beautiful and then have Jennifer Alba walk by.

an irresistable impulse if Iever saw one.
 
I don't think I've ever heard anyone use the word "articulate" to describe a white person.

I've heard it used to describe precocious children... as well as people like me, without formal education.
It is generally used to describe those who haven't- in the opinion of the speaker- any real right to be "articulate", and from whom "articulateness" is unexpected and surprising; note-worthy.
A rather condescending way to refer to a Harvard grad like Obama, I'll agree.
One would expect facility with words to be the norm rather than the exception, amongst those who graduate from the top-ranking University not only in the nation but also in the world. Bush, I would think, would be the remarkable one, the exception. An inarticulate Harvard grad such as Bush would seem worthy of comment.
Whereas, an articulate one seems more or less par for the course... unless it's the blackness of the Harvard grad in question, which makes the fact that he's articulate remarkable and worthy of comment in the mind of the speaker.

(On the other hand, it's possible Rove meant no harm. It's a compliment, after all, if a rather back-handed one. Tempest in a teapot, if you ask me.)
 
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I've heard it used to describe precocious children... as well as people like me, without formal education.
It is generally used to describe those who haven't- in the opinion of the speaker- any real right to be "articulate", and from whom "articulateness" is unexpected and surprising; note-worthy.
A rather condescending way to refer to a Harvard grad like Obama, I'll agree.
One would expect facility with words to be the norm rather than the exception, amongst those who graduate from the top-ranking University not only in the nation but also in the world. Bush, I would think, would be the remarkable one, the exception. An inarticulate Harvard grad such as Bush would seem worthy of comment.
Whereas, an articulate one seems more or less par for the course... unless it's the blackness of the Harvard grad in question, which makes the fact that he's articulate remarkable and worthy of comment in the mind of the speaker.

(On the other hand, it's possible Rove meant no harm. It's a compliment, after all, if a rather back-handed one. Tempest in a teapot, if you ask me.)

What a total crock of $hit. Obama is articulate. He is in more articulate than George Bush. Not all politicians are so well spoken and thus Obama stands out. Some politicians are more "charming" than articulate. Bill Clinton was more "charming" than articulate. "Articulate" is not an insult.
 
When your parties platform leaves people in perpetual poverty you need to do anything possible to cloud the issue.

Label the other party as a racist group and hope it sticks. :roll:
 
What a total crock of $hit. Obama is articulate. He is in more articulate than George Bush. Not all politicians are so well spoken and thus Obama stands out. Some politicians are more "charming" than articulate. Bill Clinton was more "charming" than articulate. "Articulate" is not an insult.

Have you ever used the word "articulate" or "well spoken" to describe a white person? I know I haven't.
 
Have you ever used the word "articulate" or "well spoken" to describe a white person? I know I haven't.

Sure I have. Al Gore was far more articulate than George Bush. And that point was made again and again when they ran against each other. I think Bush was far more "charming" or at least had more personality but person to person there's no question that Al Gore is less likely to stumble over words.

I have also read numerous times that Adolf Hitler was very articulate. Articulate doesn't mean "right". Articulate is more of a talent; a supreme ability to express oneself. I don't have to agree with someone to know they are articulate. I also believe you can be highly intelligent but not articulate, like me! :mrgreen: Some people are just great public speakers.
 
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Have you ever used the word "articulate" or "well spoken" to describe a white person? I know I haven't.

I have.

I may have described more as inarticulate rather than articulate, but the word isn't racially charged for me.
 
What a non-story! So-and-so compliments Obama. But was it back-handed? Who cares?

Kandahar said:
I don't think I've ever heard anyone use the word "articulate" to describe a white person.

Have you ever used the word "articulate" or "well spoken" to describe a white person? I know I haven't.

"Mr. Corzine says Hillary Clinton is articulate and disciplined but not charismatic."

"A frequent guest on television shows, McCain is seen as a credible, articulate straight shooter."



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When your parties [sic] platform leaves people in perpetual poverty you need to do anything possible to cloud the issue.

Label the other party as a racist group and hope it sticks.
Jeez, I know! That would be the Republirat platform, right? Tell me about it!

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ARealConservative, you miss Dana's point. Dana said, "The choices are very simple. Either both are rascists, or both don't know how to talk properly without putting their feet in their mouths. Which is it?"
 

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COULTER: When Gerald Ford died a few weeks ago, all of the coverage kept saying, you know, coyly suggesting that he was a mediocrity, that he had never passed any major legislation, never passed any major legislation -- which, you know, on one hand, we're Republicans; we don't want them passing legislation, we want them repealing legislation -- but leaving that point aside, I mean, everything they were saying to point out how little qualified Ford was as this accidental president is surely true, you know, tenfold in the case of Obama. And I do think it does show -- it further confirms my point that Democrats are racist, and they're just stunned to find a black man who can walk and talk. And, you know, not being a racist, I'm not really that impressed with a black man who can walk and talk. I knew that.

Talk about having no case period.

Thank you for the laugh nifty.

Other then the ****ing Water Gate scandal what other reasons were there to believe that remnants from the Nixon admin. like Ford might not be fit to lead us?:roll: . Stupid Anne. Tricks are for Kids.
 
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