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Kamala Harris "There’s a Big Difference Between Equality and Equity." Advocating Communism?

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Kamala Harris published this video recently:



It is the essence of Communism, the ideology that has failed every time it has been put into practice.

A system that by it's very nature leads to rule by an elite of "the best and brightest" with the expectation that they will make equality of outcome prevail over equality of opportunity...for everyone else.

It invariably turns into the most oppressive system, which rewards conformity and punishes individual exceptionalism, (unless it is exceptionalism in support of the "leadership" class).

It results in the imprisonment and death of anyone who refuses to conform, breaks away from norms, seeks personal advancement, profit, or any other measure of individual success.

If you run faster, then you must be hobbled to let the slowest keep up.

Imagine "Harrison Bergeron" in actual practice:



That is what you voters on the Left really want?
 
She's a mediocre intellect who rode affirmative action to every job she has had, and she's whining about how unfair America is? if there was a true meritocracy, she'd be asking "would you like fries with that burger, Ma'am? "
 
Kamala Harris published this video recently:



It is the essence of Communism, the ideology that has failed every time it has been put into practice.

A system that by it's very nature leads to rule by an elite of "the best and brightest" with the expectation that they will make equality of outcome prevail over equality of opportunity...for everyone else.

It invariably turns into the most oppressive system, which rewards conformity and punishes individual exceptionalism, (unless it is exceptionalism in support of the "leadership" class).

It results in the imprisonment and death of anyone who refuses to conform, breaks away from norms, seeks personal advancement, profit, or any other measure of individual success.

If you run faster, then you must be hobbled to let the slowest keep up.

Imagine "Harrison Bergeron" in actual practice:



That is what you voters on the Left really want?

Communism. Right. They're still coming for you after all these years.
Do you really think that word means anything to anyone these days? ****sakes, the only ones who ever say the word anymore are stone-age conservatives who still get woke up by that scritchy noise under the bed.
 
Kamala Harris published this video recently:



It is the essence of Communism, the ideology that has failed every time it has been put into practice.

A system that by it's very nature leads to rule by an elite of "the best and brightest" with the expectation that they will make equality of outcome prevail over equality of opportunity...for everyone else.

It invariably turns into the most oppressive system, which rewards conformity and punishes individual exceptionalism, (unless it is exceptionalism in support of the "leadership" class).

It results in the imprisonment and death of anyone who refuses to conform, breaks away from norms, seeks personal advancement, profit, or any other measure of individual success.

If you run faster, then you must be hobbled to let the slowest keep up.

Imagine "Harrison Bergeron" in actual practice:



That is what you voters on the Left really want?
Does anyone seriously think Kamala Harris wants communism, and even if she did that anyone else in the Democratic party does?

I mean maybe a few local or state reps, but at the federal level?

What the hell?

Are you actually believing the propaganda about the democrats being far left?
 
Communism. Right. They're still coming for you after all these years.
Do you really think that word means anything to anyone these days? ****sakes, the only ones who ever say the word anymore are stone-age conservatives who still get woke up by that scritchy noise under the bed.

LOL

It is a well known quote that those who fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.

Your effort to dismiss this information via a Reductio ad absurdum fallacious response is noted.
 
LOL

History has shown that if you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it.

Your effort to dismiss factual reality in favor of a Reductio ad absurdum response is noted.
You ought to learn what 'reductio ad absurdum' means. I haven't reduced your argument to an absurd conclusion. You just like how the word 'absurd' sounds here.
And no, communists aren't waiting behind trees for your vigilance to falter. There really aren't any communists in the US government. Be exciting if there was, I know, but there's lots of other things to be afraid of.
 
She's a mediocre intellect who rode affirmative action to every job she has had, and she's whining about how unfair America is? if there was a true meritocracy, she'd be asking "would you like fries with that burger, Ma'am? "
Well, they say she rode her way up the ladder. But those that use the system always like to think they did it on their own.
 
LOL

It is a well known quote that those who fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.

Your effort to dismiss this information via a Reductio ad absurdum fallacious response is noted.

Is that why you're voting for a man who scapegoats a minority group? You learned from history.

Nobody has proposed a state-run economy where the government controls all the means of production. Nobody has proposed a stateless, classless system.

Obama was supposed to turn us socialist and Muslim. It never happened. Clinton was supposed to be a socialist. He was more center-right.
 
Yes, that's what the globalist elites of the left desire, an eventual authoritarian, communist super-state. But Marxists will ALWAYS white-wash that reality, with deceptive feel-good terminology like "it's democratic socialism"! Marxists have always been good at duping naive people into handing over their basic liberties, and in just a few years, they've managed to dupe the majority of "progressives" into thinking that free speech is "offensive and dangerous"! They now literally spout the nonsensical talking point that "speech = violence"!

So, if Marxists asked the progressive citizenry of America to vote against free speech(literally against the 1st amendment), at least 75% of them would dutifully do just that! Even more amazing, is the fact that they will oppose free speech, while claiming to support democracy! Unlike traditional liberals, progressives don't seem to grasp the OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT connection between free speech and democracy!

The scariest part is that they make up the majority of teachers and professors tasked with "educating" our kids!
 
It is the essence of Communism, the ideology that has failed every time it has been put into practice.

According to Marx, the essence of Communism is this:

"the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property." -Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, The Communist Manifesto.

The video had nothing to do with abolishing private property, and thus, nothing to do with Communism.

QED

A system that by it's very nature leads to rule by an elite of "the best and brightest" with the expectation that they will make equality of outcome prevail over equality of opportunity...for everyone else.

This is absolutely untrue. Marx was adamantly opposed to forcing any kind of equality of outcome.

"But one man is superior to another physically, or mentally, and supplies more labor in the same time, or can labor for a longer time; and labor, to serve as a measure, must be defined by its duration or intensity, otherwise it ceases to be a standard of measurement. This equal right is an unequal right for unequal labor. It recognizes no class differences, because everyone is only a worker like everyone else; but it tacitly recognizes unequal individual endowment, and thus productive capacity, as a natural privilege. It is, therefore, a right of inequality, in its content, like every right. Right, by its very nature, can consist only in the application of an equal standard; but unequal individuals (and they would not be different individuals if they were not unequal) are measurable only by an equal standard insofar as they are brought under an equal point of view." -Karl Marx, Critique of the Gotha Programme

It invariably turns into the most oppressive system, which rewards conformity and punishes individual exceptionalism, (unless it is exceptionalism in support of the "leadership" class).

It results in the imprisonment and death of anyone who refuses to conform, breaks away from norms, seeks personal advancement, profit, or any other measure of individual success.

If you run faster, then you must be hobbled to let the slowest keep up.

Imagine "Harrison Bergeron" in actual practice:



That is what you voters on the Left really want?


No. Marx himself opposed the idea of hobbling the fast to let the slowest keep up. He explicitly stated that Communism "recognizes no class differences, because everyone is only a worker like everyone else; but it tacitly recognizes unequal individual endowment, and thus productive capacity, as a natural privilege."

Did you read anything that Marx actually wrote before undertaking the task of trying to educate everyone else about it?
 
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Yes, that's what the globalist elites of the left desire, an eventual authoritarian, communist super-state. But Marxists will ALWAYS white-wash that reality, with deceptive feel-good terminology like "it's democratic socialism"! Marxists have always been good at duping naive people into handing over their basic liberties, and in just a few years, they've managed to dupe the majority of "progressives" into thinking that free speech is "offensive and dangerous"! They now literally spout the nonsensical talking point that "speech = violence"!

So, if Marxists asked the progressive citizenry of America to vote against free speech(literally against the 1st amendment), at least 75% of them would dutifully do just that! Even more amazing, is the fact that they will oppose free speech, while claiming to support democracy! Unlike traditional liberals, progressives don't seem to grasp the OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT connection between free speech and democracy!

The scariest part is that they make up the majority of teachers and professors tasked with "educating" our kids!

It is fascinating to me that there are so many people who want to educate people about the dangers of Marxism, and yet so few of them talk about anything even tangentially related to anything Marx actually wrote. Which works of Marx did you read that led you to these outlandish misconceptions about Marxism?
 
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Thread seems a little racist.

VPs don't matter.
 
LOL

It is a well known quote that those who fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.

Your effort to dismiss this information via a Reductio ad absurdum fallacious response is noted.
Your lofty bullshit is getting tired. Have you ever had an original thought?
 
President Harris is right.

We must have equity -- now.

We cannot wait.

The government should set up a commission that parcels out jobs based on equity.

If, for example, a hospital has 100 Caucasian doctors, 50% should be immediately retired (with a generous pension, of course), and 50 doctors or even medical students of minority groups should be hired to take their place.
 
So why is one guy white one guy black?

What about asians and latinos?
 
Communism. Right. They're still coming for you after all these years.
Do you really think that word means anything to anyone these days? ****sakes, the only ones who ever say the word anymore are stone-age conservatives who still get woke up by that scritchy noise under the bed.


Communism. Right. They're still coming for you after all these years.

Yes, with little increments of socialisict/socialist policies(wink)
 
She's a mediocre intellect who rode affirmative action to every job she has had, and she's whining about how unfair America is? if there was a true meritocracy, she'd be asking "would you like fries with that burger, Ma'am? "


Unfortunately - she'll be President if Biden wins.
 
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It is fascinating to me that there are so many people who want to educate people about the dangers of Marxism, and yet so few of them talk about anything even tangentially related to anything Marx actually wrote. Which works of Marx did you read that led you to these outlandish misconceptions about Marxism?


Marx, meanwhile, had begun to lay the theoretical and (he believed) scientific foundations of communism, first in The German Ideology (written 1845–46, published 1932) and later in Das Kapital (1867; Capital). His theory has three main aspects: first, a materialist conception of history; second, a critique of capitalism and its inner workings; and third, an account of the revolutionary overthrow of capitalism and its eventual replacement by communism.



Communism vs Marxism


Is there any difference between communism and Marxism? Well, the two ‘“ communism and Marxism ‘“ are the same with not much difference between the two.
Communism is really based on Marxism and the two cannot be separated. However, one can see that Marxism is the theory and Communism is the practical implementation of Marxism.

While Marxism is a political ideology based on Karl Marx’s ideas, communism can be called as a political system, which is based on Marxist ideology.

Read more: Difference Between Communism and Marxism | Difference Between http://www.differencebetween.net/mi...-between-communism-and-marxism/#ixzz6cjFTh8aC






Lol. You can read his book till the pages come off. This is all we have to know:

MARXISM = COMMUNISM.


Now, let me ask you - which part of Communism is so hard to understand?
 
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According to Marx, the essence of Communism is this...

Karl Marx did not invent the idea of Communism. He expressed his own views on that subject fairly vaguely, while focusing his thoughts on socio-economic class struggles especially in a capitalistic society. When one is referring to those views it is called MARXISM.

Much like Lenin had his views, while Trotsky had his, etc.

Point being, Communism and Marxism are not the same thing.

However, one idea Marx is famous for is that expressed as "From each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs." An expression of equity, not equality.
 
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Yes, with little increments of socialisict/socialist policies(wink)
Oh yeah, creeping communism. That's the worst kind.
 
Does anyone seriously think Kamala Harris wants communism, and even if she did that anyone else in the Democratic party does?

I mean maybe a few local or state reps, but at the federal level?

What the hell?

Are you actually believing the propaganda about the democrats being far left?
“Believe it”? He routinely promulgates it!
 
Your lofty bullshit is getting tired. Have you ever had an original thought?
you silly responses are amusing and stupid. Have you ever contributed something to this board that is actually interesting to read?
 
Oh noes...da COMMUNISTS!
 
you silly responses are amusing and stupid. Have you ever contributed something to this board that is actually interesting to read?

Do an advanced search for posts by Turtledude that contain "TDS", and you'll find nearly a thousand posts with him squealing "TDS! TDS!" at people, contributing nothing of substance. Then try a search for "bannerhoid".

Then ask yourself whether you trust him to judge Piner or any other poster's contribution . . .







And if you need to consider anything else, ponder his angle in this thread: that the black woman should be flipping burgers for him.

She's a mediocre intellect who rode affirmative action to every job she has had, and she's whining about how unfair America is? if there was a true meritocracy, she'd be asking "would you like fries with that burger, Ma'am? "
 
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