Just when you thought the dems hit bottom, a new low is found...

[calamity]

You have selective vision, I see the Repubs and their candidate Trump and the Dems with their Hillary as both being worthy of being laughed at, that is if it were not such an awful sign of how low this Nation has fallen.

Yep. This election is definitely a race between two clowns.

 

[Casper]

Right, but Hillary is not an option. Someone that should be in prison shouldn't be allowed to run. It's disturbing enough that she escapes being prosecuted by a DOJ that willingly fails to do their job. Sanders would beat Trump, but Hillary is ruining that BY ELECTION FRAUD. So what do you do? Support a POS cheater that tries to steal the election? If they have to steal an election, you can be 100% certain she doesn't have the interests of WE THE PEOPLE in mind. Trump, Sanders, whatever. Hillary would be the end of America.

First off, I am not supporting Hillary, never have.
Secondly, you make lost of accusations yet cannot provide and proof to validate them, meaning it is your Opinion.
Third, Sanders is Out and the Dems and the US reject his brand of Socialism, we cannot afford it.
Forth, Trump does not have the best interests of We The People in mind, Trump only has the best interests of Trump in mind.
The end is coming no matter who wins, wrap your brain around that.

 

[Casper]

Yep. This election is definitely a race between two clowns.

Very Scary Clowns.

 

[American]

Obama endorses Hillary - Trump releases 2008 Obama-approved ad: "Hillary will say anything and change nothing". Hilarious.


Trump throws 2008 Obama ad in Clinton's face - POLITICO

You mean Obama flying Hillary out on the campaign trail in Air Force 1? At $200K/hr to fly, I'd say both should go to prison for a long damn time.

 

[Frank Apisa]

Okaaay... As usual, you spout off with some contention and when asked a question about it you just repeat your contention. Not very conducive to discussion, are you?

So it goes...

Well...if you think I can tell the future...what can I say?

I can't.

So I have to leave it at: We'll see.

Sorry that bothers you.

 

[Mycroft]

Well...if you think I can tell the future...what can I say?

I can't.

So I have to leave it at: We'll see.

Sorry that bothers you.

The future has nothing to do with the question I asked.

But hey...your reluctance to answer it doesn't bother me at all.

 

[Mr Person]

Obama endorses Hillary - Trump releases 2008 Obama-approved ad: "Hillary will say anything and change nothing". Hilarious.


Trump throws 2008 Obama ad in Clinton's face - POLITICO

Seeing as the same can be said of Trump, it isn't a basis for deciding whether/which candidate to vote for. They're both bad in many ways, and it seems the main dividing differences are that (1) Hillary actually does have experience as a pragmatic politician, and (2) Trump is either a disgusting loudmouth bigot or is pretending to be one for votes.

 

[Mycroft]

Seeing as the same can be said of Trump, it isn't a basis for deciding whether/which candidate to vote for. They're both bad in many ways, and it seems the main dividing differences are that (1) Hillary actually does have experience as a pragmatic politician, and (2) Trump is either a disgusting loudmouth bigot or is pretending to be one for votes.

I agree they are both bad in many ways, but I disagree on the main dividing differences. I see them this way:

1. Hillary is corrupt, a liar and everything she does is determined by the question of whether it'll help her, personally, or hurt her. Any consideration of the effects on anybody else...especially on the public...is secondary.

2. Trump is a blowhard.

I see this as making Trump the lesser of evils.

 

[Frank Apisa]

The future has nothing to do with the question I asked.

The "future" has EVERYTHING to do with your question, Mycroft.

Go back an read it.

But hey...your reluctance to answer it doesn't bother me at all.

Follow the path back to the question...don't pretend there is a second path.

 

[Mycroft]

The "future" has EVERYTHING to do with your question, Mycroft.

Go back an read it.



Follow the path back to the question...don't pretend there is a second path.

LOL!!

I know what my question was. But I don't think you do. Quote me if you do.

 

[Frank Apisa]

LOL!!

I know what my question was. But I don't think you do. Quote me if you do.

I can follow the path of the discussion.

You can follow the path.

Do what you will.

You find me irrelevant and uninteresting...yet you continue to engage me in discussion.

Oh, the pity!

 

[Casper]

I agree they are both bad in many ways, but I disagree on the main dividing differences. I see them this way:

1. Hillary is corrupt, a liar and everything she does is determined by the question of whether it'll help her, personally, or hurt her. Any consideration of the effects on anybody else...especially on the public...is secondary.

2. Trump is a blowhard.

I see this as making Trump the lesser of evils.

Not to worry the corrupt part of Trumps resume is coming out slowly but surely.

I trust Neither, there is not a lesser of two evils that is worthy of any support in my opinion.

 

[Mycroft]

I can follow the path of the discussion.

You can follow the path.

Do what you will.

You find me irrelevant and uninteresting...yet you continue to engage me in discussion.

Oh, the pity!

LOL!!

No quote, eh? Figures...

 

[Frank Apisa]

LOL!!

No quote, eh? Figures...

You can do it.

You can even pretend it was one of the many other questions you asked me.

But the plan to set me up is never going to work. I'm way ahead of you. (You do not know what he thinks; neither do I. But I will never pretend that I do know.)

 

[Wiggen]

May I remind everyone one itty bitty thing? It doesn't matter what the GOP says about trump. What matters is that little thing that starts with WE THE PEOPLE. We are the ones that count. So let them say what they want. Trump is wayyyyyyyy up there in the polls. He beat out every other contender. What does that say?

Three words:

WE THE PEOPLE.

No, it was actually WE THE EXTREMIST GOVERNMENT HATING RACISTS who succeeded in taking over the Republican Party. They deserve the thanks of every Democrat in the country.

 

[Mycroft]

You can do it.

You can even pretend it was one of the many other questions you asked me.

But the plan to set me up is never going to work. I'm way ahead of you. (You do not know what he thinks; neither do I. But I will never pretend that I do know.)

Oh. Now I'm trying to set you up.

LOL!!

Yeah...you are "way ahead of me". Way out in left field, that is.

 

[jpn]

So typical of a liberal to believe his own spin and lies.

So, what were my "lies" and my "spin"?

This:

"Oh wow, so powerful. I guess I'll vote for Trump instead, and support racism and tax cuts for the rich and opposing a woman's right to choose and starting trade wars with China and Mexico and pretending that global warming is a myth."

According to Mycroft, what I wrote are "lies" and "spin."

Hmmm....let's take a closer look.

**So isn't Trump proposing massive tax cuts for the rich?
This is his own website: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform

**So Trump isn't opposing a woman's right to choose?
Well, as is to often the case, it's pretty hard to chase down his actual position, [Trump took 5 different positions on abortion in 3 days] but this is a pretty good summary: Donald Trump on Abortion
If he supports a woman's right to choose, he better say so. Because the rest of us are pretty sure he isn't. Are suggesting he is? Why isn't he making it plain to the voters then? Would you vote for him them?

**So Trump isn't for starting trade wars? Well, I suppose you could believe that the Chinese will be SO impressed and intimidated by this low-class huckster that they'll TOTALLY cave in to him. :lamo
Maybe they will. Or, maybe, you're so used to seeing everyone kowtowing to The Donald on your right-wing media you think normal people will, too. But I think the Chinese will act like the proud sovereign nation they are. Call it a hunch.

**So Trump takes global warming seriously?
"I am not a great believer in man-made climate change," Trump told the Washington Post editorial board in March.
"If you look, they had global cooling in the 1920s and now they have global warming, although now they don't know if they have global warming."
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 06, 2012
This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bull**** has got to stop. Our planet is freezing, record low temps,and our GW scientists are stuck in ice"
Donald Trump Thinks Global Warming Is "Bull****" | Mother Jones

So we're left with the charge of racism, which I guess you can dispute. After all, The Donald claims that Blacks and Hispanics and Gays love him. It's odd, though, how the David Dukes of the world definitely love him, and how he keeps "mistakenly" re-tweeting tweets that originate from racist origins. I never have that problem. Do you? Odd, isn't it?

You know what's really amazing? And telling? When I list what Trump stands for, including a position that is on his own campaign website, the conservative reaction is to deny it and claim that they are "lies" and "spin."

:thinking

It must be so weird to be a Republican.

 

[MrWonka]

Obama endorses Hillary - Trump releases 2008 Obama-approved ad: "Hillary will say anything and change nothing". Hilarious.

I guess that's what happens when you don't raise enough money to create your own adds. You have to try and re-use other people's old ones.

 

[jpn]

Yep. This election is definitely a race between two clowns.

That's what the kids see.

Us adults see it as a race between a woman's right to choose and restricting them.
Between massive, debt-exploding tax cuts for the rich and rational fiscal policy.
Between reasonably addressing global warming and denying that it even exists.
Between reasonable immigration policy and building walls.
Between continuity in foreign affairs and chaos.
Between dumping 20 million Americans off health insurance and expanding the progress made during the last eight years.
Between slashing benefits for the middle class and expanding them.

Why do people spend so much time on the nonsense and so little on the substance?

 

[calamity]

That's what the kids see.

Us adults see it as a race between a woman's right to choose and restricting them.
Between massive, debt-exploding tax cuts for the rich and rational fiscal policy.
Between reasonably addressing global warming and denying that it even exists.
Between reasonable immigration policy and building walls.
Between continuity in foreign affairs and chaos.
Between dumping 20 million Americans off health insurance and expanding the progress made during the last eight years.
Between slashing benefits for the middle class and expanding them.

Why do people spend so much time on the nonsense and so little on the substance?

Because Hillary is a pretty bad mascot for all those good points you make. She's really a terrible candidate.

 

[ballantine]

May I remind everyone one itty bitty thing? It doesn't matter what the GOP says about trump. What matters is that little thing that starts with WE THE PEOPLE. We are the ones that count. So let them say what they want. Trump is wayyyyyyyy up there in the polls. He beat out every other contender. What does that say?

Three words:

WE THE PEOPLE.

I'm afraid you're wrong. What matters is the Electoral College vote. The People have very little to do with it.

 

[Enola]

I'm afraid you're wrong. What matters is the Electoral College vote. The People have very little to do with it.

And that is the problem and has been for a very long time. The electoral is outdated and should be swatted out of the ballpark that has outgrown it.

 

[Moot]

To coin a Hillary phrase:

At this point, what does it matter what Birthers think? Like, 8 years too late, innit?

It matters because the leader of the birther movement is running for president.

 

[ballantine]

That's what the kids see.

Agreed.

Us adults ...

You don't speak for "us" adults.

see it as a race between a woman's right to choose and restricting them.
Between massive, debt-exploding tax cuts for the rich and rational fiscal policy.
Between reasonably addressing global warming and denying that it even exists.
Between reasonable immigration policy and building walls.
Between continuity in foreign affairs and chaos.
Between dumping 20 million Americans off health insurance and expanding the progress made during the last eight years.
Between slashing benefits for the middle class and expanding them.

You see a lot of things that don't exist. In typical liberal fashion you're off in utopia-land and you have no concept of actually landing the plane.

Why do people spend so much time on the nonsense and so little on the substance?

Your spin is devoid of substance. Tell ya what - the economy is in shambles, terrorists have taken over the middle east, and this president thinks the priority is trannies feeling good about themselves when they use the loo.

I mean no offense, but your party is in no position to be talking about substance. We've all seen the "substance" that Mr. Hope and Change is made of. Generally speaking, it's brown and it stinks.

 

[sKiTzo]

I think Donald Trump is going to come out of this thing looking like a fool, Mycroft...and with lots of mud on him.

I may be wrong.

We'll see.

But we do agree that the campaign will be INTERESTING.

Hillary supporters CLEARLY don't care about an extremely excessive amount of mud (completely covered in mud) so Trump supporters should care about "possible" mud? How does someone even arrive at that?