Juno actor Ellen Page publicly comes out as a transgender male named Elliot and tells fans in a statement: 'My pronouns are he/they' - as wife of two

[lurchadams]

Gee man, seems like everyone is ignorant according to you. Me thinks a good long look in the mirror is something you would benefit from.

Sure, I'll look in the mirror and remind myself that my son is transitioning right this moment. In the meantime, you should look in the mirror and tell yourself not to opine on subjects for which you have zero experience or knowledge.

Fear and ignorance are the biggest conservative issues right now.

 

[Visbek]

Because it is, in fact, very basic. I assume you are referring to the debunked 'transgender brain' thing, for example.

It hasn't been "debunked." No surprise that you've provided no links to back up your claim.

“The idea that a person’s sex is determined by their anatomy at birth is not true, and we’ve known that it’s not true for decades,” said Dr. Joshua D. Safer, an endocrinologist and executive director of the Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery at Mount Sinai Health System in New York."

Anatomy Does Not Determine Gender, Experts Say (Published 2018)

Efforts by the Trump administration to narrowly define gender as determined by genitals defy medical and scientific knowledge.

www.nytimes.com

Transgender: Evidence on the biological nature of gender identity

Medical care of transgender patients, including surgical and hormonal treatment, has largely been met with resistance by physicians in favor of psychiatric treatment, owing to misconceptions that gender identity can be changed. There is increasing evidence of a biological basis for gender...

www.sciencedaily.com

Wrong.

lol... Wow, you showed me, with the power of -- of -- nothing whatsoever.

Yes, I understand you stan for some doctors who have been convinced by SJWs/RadicalTransactivists to play along with these delusions. Similarly there were people who stanned for doctors who decided lobotomizing people was a good way to treat their mental illness, too. Enabling their delusions is very harmful. I've seen it firsthand.

I'm quite confident you haven't seen jack. That's why I will side with actual doctors and medical professionals over what appear to be shameful, ignorant, transphobic assertions.

Oh, and speaking of those who "stan" for harmful therapies, let's not forget that many of the same "experts" who deny the reality of transgenderism also support "conversion therapy," which is undoubtedly harmful to those who told that their non-straight sexual orientation was a "delusion."

Neither science nor history are on your side here.

 

[Lisa]

Ellen Page publicly comes out as a transgender male named Elliot, says: 'My pronouns are he/they' | Daily Mail Online

I don't care if she is transgender.. and she should live her life however she wants. Although I won't consider Ellen a "he".

But, I was reading this story, and wondering what does that mean for her wife?

The wife is now married to, what people that follow this ideology believe, to be a man. Many will believe she was always a man.

Does this mean that the wife is no longer a lesbian and the wife is, and always was, a cis, hetero woman?

Elliot and his w wife will likely divorce in the coming months because his wife is a lesbian and he is not.

It's great that he came out as male and stopped living a double life for the sake of others. Everyone should have the ability and the right to be happy, no matter how much it annoys or bothers religious conservatives of every stripe and religion.

 

[buck]

Obviously your metric for measuring a good communicator is trump. That's your issue, sir. trump is an idiot that sounds like a moron whenever he opens his mouth. But lets reexamine the post you say is "coherent".

I believe you are having further issues from your prior brain injury. Seems to have caused delusions and the inability for you to read past minor typos resulting from the poster using a phone.

I do agree with one of your points. You are similar to Jordan Peterson (that wasn't a compliment).

Great, more personal insults. How brave and stunning of you. Well done

 

[Gondwanaland]

Ooh, 3 examples? Wow! Having lived through this with my own son, I think I'm much more qualified than ignorant bigots like people who post OP's bashing the LBGTQ community and the plight of people unhappy in their own skin.

I gave far more than 3 examples. Thank you for showing that you didn't even read my post (with 5 links), let alone read the links themselves, and thanks for proving you did not ask with honest intentions of considering the answer you got.

 

[buck]

Elliot and his w wife will likely divorce in the coming months because his wife is a lesbian and he is not.

Apparently the wife isn't even a lesbian. She learned a lot from this.

 

[Lisa]

Apparently the wife isn't even a lesbian. She learned a lot from this.

How can she not be a lesbian if she was married to Elliot when he was still Ellen?

 

[buck]

How can she not be a lesbian if she was married to Elliot when he was still Ellen?

Ellen was always a "man" to believe the dogma.

Even if you don't believe that (and in my experience most trans do), staying married to a "man" would make her hetero or bi. Neither of which would be lesbian.

 

[lurchadams]

I gave far more than 3 examples. Thank you for showing that you didn't even read my post (with 5 links), let alone read the links themselves, and thanks for proving you did not ask with honest intentions of considering the answer you got.

I'm sorry, you're absolutely right. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and no one should listen to a child who says they're unhappy in the body they've been given.

Good job, pal! Keep up the "good" work!

 

[Lisa]

Ellen was always a "man" to believe the dogma.

Even if you don't believe that (and in my experience most trans do), staying married to a "man" would make her hetero or bi. Neither of which would be lesbian.

Ellen was always a man to himself but until he came out and told others how he felt they treated him as female because of his birth gender.

 

[Phys251]

I don't care what she has between her legs.

Your deliberate misgendering him proves that you do. Why? Why are you so pathologically obsessed with what is between the legs of a celebrity that you have never met? Why not just let him live his life? I thought you people were all about freedom. So much for that.

 

[Phys251]

I made a single statement controverting your assertion that @Gondwanaland doesn't comprehend reality.

How does this constitute "losing my mind"?

Incidentally, I identify as a person not losing his mind, and it's critical to my happiness and mental stability that you affirm this reality.

We know. We also know that you people are obsessed with what is between Elliot Page's legs and that you people are pathologically opposed to letting him have the freedom that he deserves.

 

[buck]

Ellen was always a man to himself but until he came out and told others how he felt they treated him as female because of his birth gender.

Ellen was always a man. so she tricked lesbians and/or men to have sex with a man? That seems very unfair.

I guess it's possible she told people before she had sex with them that she was really a man, but seems a bit unlikely.

 

[Pound4abrown]

I wonder if that's going to screw things up for "The Umbrella Academy"?

Nope, aside from changing his name in the credits, they have already said his role won't be changing.
Better than decent actor.

 

[buck]

Your deliberate misgendering him proves that you do. Why? Why are you so pathologically obsessed with what is between the legs of a celebrity that you have never met? Why not just let him live his life? I thought you people were all about freedom. So much for that.

I dont understand this 'freedom' claim.

The poster said Ellen has the freedom to believe what she wants. The poster, likewise, has the freedom to believe what he wants.

Do you believe that ellens freedom to be trans creates requirements (restricts freedom) for everyone else?

 

[jotathought]

Since "he" is a "she" now .. can "she" get herself pregnant?

 

[Mycroft]

Nope, aside from changing his name in the credits, they have already said his role won't be changing.
Better than decent actor.

Good. I'm really looking forward to the next season of the show.

 

[Phys251]

I dont understand this 'freedom' claim.

The poster said Ellen has the freedom to believe what she

You should have stopped your post with the first three words.

You do not understand why your deliberately deadnaming Elliot is harmful to trans people because you won't listen to the reasons why.

Stop speaking from knowledge that you obviously lack.

 

[COTO]

We know.

If you know, why are you disregarding my self-identification? Surely my happiness and peace of mind are important to you, and worthy of some small concessions.

We also know that you people are obsessed with what is between Elliot Page's legs and that you people are pathologically opposed to letting him have the freedom that he deserves.

What freedom would that be? The freedom to have us acknowledge and respect her self-identification, despite believing it to be an erroneous state of mind?

If such acknowledgement and respect are important enough that our mindset constitutes pathological opposition to freedom, why does your disregard for my self-identification not also constitute pathological opposition to freedom?

 

[Gondwanaland]

I'm sorry, you're absolutely right. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and no one should listen to a child who says they're unhappy in the body they've been given.

Good job, pal! Keep up the "good" work!

Thank you for tacitly admitting you indeed didnt bother reading and proving yourself to be a dishonest actor. Oh and no need to include a self-portrait at the end of your posts.

 

[Gondwanaland]

Your deliberate misgendering him proves that you do. Why? Why are you so pathologically obsessed with what is between the legs of a celebrity that you have never met? Why not just let him live his life? I thought you people were all about freedom. So much for that.

I did not misgender anyone. The people calling her a him are the ones misgendering. How does me correctly naming her gender make her unable to "live her life"? She is free to exercise her delusions. Where did I prevent her from doing so? What are you even on about?

 

[Gondwanaland]

We know. We also know that you people are obsessed with what is between Elliot Page's legs and that you people are pathologically opposed to letting him have the freedom that he deserves.

How are we preventing her from having Freedom? Please explain.

You seem to be the one obsessed with between her legs. I dont care what she had between her legs or what she modifies there. Nothing changes her basic female chromosomes.

 

[beancounter]

I don't care. What celebrities say or do is of no interest to me.

Remember, all they're really good at is playing pretend.

 

[Guyzilla]

It means when they switch he has to take the strap on.

Generally, girls that insert stuff, as lesbians, are doing that to tittilate males, usually in porn.

 

[Rudy]

Generally, girls that insert stuff, as lesbians, are doing that to tittilate males, usually in porn.

It was a joke.