Judge rules Pennsylvania COVID-19 restrictions unconstitutional

[Aberro]

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(A U.S. federal judge on Monday ruled as unconstitutional some of Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf's orders to control the coronavirus outbreak, including limits on crowd sizes, requirements that people stay home, and the closing of non-essential businesses.)

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[OrphanSlug]

Great... this is all we need when trying to save lives, Republicans rushing to court to squash "restrictions (that) were executed with good intentions but were arbitrary and violated individual rights."

 

[Overitall]

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(A U.S. federal judge on Monday ruled as unconstitutional some of Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf's orders to control the coronavirus outbreak, including limits on crowd sizes, requirements that people stay home, and the closing of non-essential businesses.)

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Judge rules Pennsylvania governor's COVID-19 restrictions unconstitutional

 

[ludin]

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It is about damn time a judge got it right.

 

[PoS]

Great... this is all we need when trying to save lives, Republicans rushing to court to squash "restrictions (that) were executed with good intentions but were arbitrary and violated individual rights."

We should have gone herd immunity from the very beginning, instead we beleived a bunch of quacks like Ferguson who claimed 2.2 million Americans would be dead.

 

[ludin]

Great... this is all we need when trying to save lives, Republicans rushing to court to squash "restrictions (that) were executed with good intentions but were arbitrary and violated individual rights."

As usual your appeal to emotional argument is a failure and you have no clue what you are talking about.

1. Government does have some power in great need. Yes for a while a lock down (even though stupid) was needed.
2. What the government can't do is arbitrary decide how it is enforced. Which is the problem with these laws. They are not enforced equally among everyone the same.
The government is discriminating and they have been discriminating in their enforcement of these laws.

Government power as the judge said is not unilateral. The government has to justify it's use of action and the constant use of the same argument is not ongoing forever.
more so when these government officials are breaking their own laws that they say everyone else has to abide by.

 

[OrphanSlug]

We should have gone herd immunity from the very beginning, instead we beleived a bunch of quacks like Ferguson who claimed 2.2 million Americans would be dead.

Herd immunity still requires at least 70% of the population (ideally much more) to have the antibodies, and to get there it also requires being exposed to the infection. The idea being each individual immune system kills coronavirus no matter how many times they are exposed to it.

The problem is coronavirus has a plethora of issues that come with exposure, for some it means death and for others it means long term health consequences.

No matter what FoxNews tells you this is not the flu or a cold, that myth was destroyed months ago when bodies started pilling up.

 

[Phys251]

We should have gone herd immunity from the very beginning, instead we beleived a bunch of quacks like Ferguson who claimed 2.2 million Americans would be dead.

Actually you seem to be in favor of a lot of people dying.

 

[Phys251]

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trump-nominated activist judge. Pennsylvania should immediately appeal this tyrannical ruling.

 

[snakestretcher]

It is about damn time a judge got it right.

When did that happen? This idiot 'judge' just condemned people to death. Are you proud?

 

[ludin]

When did that happen? This idiot 'judge' just condemned people to death. Are you proud?

No he didn't. not that i expect you to understand how wrong your post is.
Yes i am proud that a judge finally put a kabosh on the unconstitutional idiocy of these
leftist Gov's.

It is what our constitution was designed to do.
I know you hate it but that isn't my issue.

 

[snakestretcher]

No he didn't. not that i expect you to understand how wrong your post is.
Yes i am proud that a judge finally put a kabosh on the unconstitutional idiocy of these
leftist Gov's.

It is what our constitution was designed to do.
I know you hate it but that isn't my issue.

Pathetic. That moron just categorically guaranteed that many Americans, mostly cretinous 'libertarians', will get infected and probably die. Screw your 'rights'. I choose life.

 

[minnie616]

We should have gone herd immunity from the very beginning, instead we beleived a bunch of quacks like Ferguson who claimed 2.2 million Americans would be dead.

Already we have over 194,000 Americans dead from Covid 19 (so far )and we are nowhere near 20 infected.

And those infected are not always immune. In fact immunity may be only be temporary.

Study: COVID-19 antibodies decay quickly after mild illness | CIDRAP

 

[minnie616]

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The ruling might be overturned if another Court reviews the Pennsylvania Constitution

They should consider what are the Governor of Pennsylvania’s emergency management powers include and what is the scope of his/her powers under the Constitution of the state of Pennsylvania.

 

[tacomancer]

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Hopefully if this does not get reversed all other states are wise enough to not let Pennsylvanians in to their states without a quarantine period

 

[Ethel2]

trump-nominated activist judge. Pennsylvania should immediately appeal this tyrannical ruling.

Bingo.
This will be appealed and overturned because it defies logic.

Those who favor herd immunity should assemble all of their elderly relatives to be first in line to be infected. Its not so easy when you put a face on it, is it.

 

[Ethel2]

Already we have over 194,000 Americans dead from Covid 19 (so far )and we are nowhere near 20 infected.

And those infected are not always immune. In fact immunity may be only be temporary.

Study: COVID-19 antibodies decay quickly after mild illness | CIDRAP

Antibodies are not the only way your body protects itself from reinfection. T cells "remember" an infectious agent in most cases and despite low antibody levels they are primed for a robust immune response when re-exposed to the same or a similar agent. It remains to be seen how long immunity will persist with Covid 19. We have been in this for at least 7 months now and there have been very few documented instances of reinfection. Right now, it seems to be a rare event. It may be that the best strategy is to get a booster vaccine every six months until this is totally under control.

 

[PoS]

Herd immunity still requires at least 70% of the population (ideally much more) to have the antibodies, and to get there it also requires being exposed to the infection. The idea being each individual immune system kills coronavirus no matter how many times they are exposed to it.

The problem is coronavirus has a plethora of issues that come with exposure, for some it means death and for others it means long term health consequences.

No matter what FoxNews tells you this is not the flu or a cold, that myth was destroyed months ago when bodies started pilling up.

Riight. So you want us to do what Creepy Joe commands: hide in the basement until he wins the election, then declares everything is okay again.... :roll:

Actually you seem to be in favor of a lot of people dying.

A strawman shows up from under his bridge...

Already we have over 194,000 Americans dead from Covid 19 (so far )and we are nowhere near 20 infected.

And those infected are not always immune. In fact immunity may be only be temporary.

Study: COVID-19 antibodies decay quickly after mild illness | CIDRAP

That doesnt address what I said, at all. Youre just talking to yourself.

 

[Phys251]

Riight. So you want us to do what Creepy Joe

commands: hide in the basement until

Except we aren't. We just want people to wear masks and socially distance. That's too much to ask for your kind. :shrug:

he wins the election, then declares everything is okay again.... :roll:


A strawman shows up from under his bridge...

Why are you content with letting nearly 200,000 Americans die and millions more get horribly sick? Why do you have such low value for human life?

 

[PoS]

Except we aren't. We just want people to wear masks and socially distance. That's too much to ask for your kind. :shrug:

Its ironic you write such BS since most of the deaths have occurred in blue states, the ones your kind controls. Try thinking about that fact for once.

 

[ludin]

Pathetic. That moron just categorically guaranteed that many Americans, mostly cretinous 'libertarians', will get infected and probably die. Screw your 'rights'. I choose life.

That is the cool thing about freedom is peoples choices right or wrong.
He didn't guarantee anything. People have a right to live their life.

Sorry I don't say screw your rights. that is why you lose. Your rights are the most important thing that you have.
You are free to not go out not work and not do anything. You are 100% free to stay inside your home and do nothing.

Other people are free to go out work and attempt to pay their bills, and feed their kids and be as productive as they can be.

at least you are honest in your hatred of peoples's rights it is something that we always knew leftist hated but at least you have now
come to openly admit the truth.

 

[BlueTex]

It is about damn time a judge got it right.

It’s the Lochner revival!

 

[Ethel2]

Its ironic you write such BS since most of the deaths have occurred in blue states, the ones your kind controls. Try thinking about that fact for once.

So the jackass is just president of the red states? Where is the national plan to control the virus? Every single nation that has done a good job controlling this has had a UNIFIED NATIONAL PLAN. Where is ours?
Keep in mind that had the jackass responded decisively, correctly, and early on 90% of the deaths in this country could have been prevented. We now know that he knew how deadly this could be early in Feb. Had he acted as if he cared about human life the governors would not have been put in the impossible position the jackass put them in.
Think about that.

 

[Mongidig]

Herd immunity still requires at least 70% of the population (ideally much more) to have the antibodies, and to get there it also requires being exposed to the infection. The idea being each individual immune system kills coronavirus no matter how many times they are exposed to it.

The problem is coronavirus has a plethora of issues that come with exposure, for some it means death and for others it means long term health consequences.

No matter what FoxNews tells you this is not the flu or a cold, that myth was destroyed months ago when bodies started pilling up.

Even President Trump knows this.

 

[minnie616]

Its ironic you write such BS since most of the deaths have occurred in blue states, the ones your kind controls. Try thinking about that fact for once.

Not that line of non reasoning again ... this is a health crisis and is not political the majority of

deaths that happened before May was when we still thought Covid 19

was mainly a respiratory disease and did not know it causes inflation of blood vessels and attack

organs other than the Lungs,