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This is a great analysis! :thumbs:
This is a great analysis! :thumbs:Of course they can appeal. But this isn't a criminal case. These are 2 separate things. But if you want to compare them, if you are given the death penalty, you go to jail while you appeal. You don't get to stay free while you appeal. So if he wants to appeal, he can. But the records must be handed over unless a higher court issues something saying to wait for an appeal. Cases like this happen every day, and stuff is forced to be turned over all the time without the supreme court ruling on it. If every single decision on a warrant or a subpoena had to be ruled on by the SC, we'd never get anywhere.
Seriously. If the police get a warrant to search my house, do you think I'd have the ability to fight them all the way to the SC before they bust my door down and do the search?
That judge said “no stay of order” pending appeal.
If feel that Trump's cult has revealed something about human nature and politics that I find very depressing.
If people like a politician enough then all rationality goes out the window. They will support almost anything that politician does.
People shouldn't forget that these feelings the Dems in the House have are based on the words of a convicted liar, and information that has come from discredited sources.
That's a good analysis.
To be honest, I felt the prior case-law and precedent was pretty clear, as seen today. But you never know what can happen in any given courtroom ...
Where does it say that Congress can't believe the words of a convicted liar? Lots of men are in prison based on the testimony of convicted liars.
Exactly!I think you are confused on how the law works for citizens of the United States.
Interesting point. Though Judge Mehta's use of "the court" is obviously collective, it is always possible a higher court can over-rule.I would tend to agree. At least at this point. It remains to be seen what happens next.
Mazar left an interesting "door" in the ruling:
Judge upholds Dem subpoena for Trump financial records - POLITICO
“...it is not the court’s role to decipher whether Congress’s true purpose in pursuing an investigation is to aid legislation or something more sinister such as exacting political retribution,” Mehta wrote.
The operative is: "It is not the court's role to decipher...."
Maybe not Mazar's court, but another court could.
Back again with your misleading info?!? :lol:
Ford will lay off up to 800 salaried employees (management) in North America.
Exactly!
It the courts for the past hundred years who are wrong!
If feel that Trump's cult has revealed something about human nature and politics that I find very depressing.
If people like a politician enough then all rationality goes out the window. They will support almost anything that politician does.
We're one charismatic leader away from a dictatorship.
Funny...we thought the same thing with Democrats and Obama.
It's not Trump's fault Ford can't manage their money.
You've described the over-arching concept here. It seems Trump and his supporters seem to be saying is,I don't understand people like you. What's the big deal here? He's president. He shouldn't have financial secrets. Why are you supporting his right to conceal the truth from the American people? It makes no sense.
He's not some ordinary citizen. Don't we have a right to know about financial involvements our leaders have that may be conflicts of interest?
i didn't think that it could happen here, but i'm no longer so sure. we live in interesting times, and you know what they say about that situation.
Interesting point. Though Judge Mehta's use of "the court" is obviously collective, it is always possible a higher court can over-rule.
But either way, I don't see Trump prevailing in the majority of these cases. There's too much case-law & precedence against him.
It's not Trump's fault Ford can't manage their money.
"Mexico is paying for the wall", my friend. Can't forget that duesy ...Yeah, China is paying the tariffs, Trump's father was born in Germany and U.S. Steel is opening six new plants.
Republicans are just a joke now.
I bet he still refuses...
voluntary and involuntary separations
:thumbs:Courts have ruled on this numerous times since 1880 with always the same conclusion.
Congress has a Constitutionals right and duty to perform government oversite and the courts don't get involved in proving motive as long as a viable purpose exists, as it does here.
It's not a difficult case. It has been adjudicated again and again with always the same conclusion. The judge here is so certain of this that a stay request was denied.
It also hurt Trumps case tremendously by him saying the White House will not cooperate with ANY Congressional subpoena's. A blanket denial without a provided rationale never sits well with most federal judges.
"Mexico is paying for the wall", my friend. Can't forget that duesy ...
Now that's one helluva' coincidence!The best part about this is that the appeals judge is going to be, Merrick Garland!
Obama never lied like Trump.
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