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Judge Orders 50% of San Quentin's Prisoners Released, or Transferred

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The dangerous far-left have been doing everything in their power to exploit the covid pandemic to accomplish their objectives. Now, after several months of legal wrangling, they've managed to convince a judge to free 50% prisoners from one of California's hardest prisons. Leading the campaign to dump prisoners on the streets were:
-Marc Levine, D-Assemblyman S.F.
-Scott Wiener, D, state senator
-Hadar Aviram, Israeli-born lawyer, UC Hastings professor

SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- A California Court of Appeals ruled on Tuesday that San Quentin prison must reduce its population by 50% or to no more than 1,775 inmates.

The ruling comes from a lawsuit by a prisoner who was one of the more than 2,000 inmates to contract COVID-19.

"It's essential to 'de-carcerate' the prison and make some room," Aviram added

Kristen asked, "Any word yet on the correction system appealing to this ruling?"

"We don't know," Aviram said. "That's assumably the next step, they only have 15 days to do it because of the rush to save lives. The court limited it to 15 days and after that, the case becomes final.

abc7news.com

California Court of Appeals orders 50% population reduction at San Quentin Prison

The ruling means that more than 1,000 inmates need to be released or transferred to another facility so they can provide measures to protect against COVID-19.
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www.marinij.com

San Quentin outbreak: Activists ask Newsom to step in

Speakers from the coalition called #StopSanQuentinOutbreak read a list of demands calling on the state to take action and stop the outbreak from worsening.
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Only 28 deaths at San Quentin prison have been attributed to COVID-19. There's only been 1 new diagnosed case in the past month, a steep decline from where we were in May-June. People like Hadar Aviram have been anti-prison for many years, and why she would migrate from Israel to the US and exploit the pandemic to spring prisoners from jail is anybody's guess. The left have truly gone mad in the Golden State.
 
truthatallcost said:
The dangerous far-left have been doing everything in their power to exploit the covid pandemic to accomplish their objectives. Now, after several months of legal wrangling, they've managed to convince a judge to free 50% prisoners from one of California's hardest prisons. Leading the campaign to dump prisoners on the streets were:
-Marc Levine, D-Assemblyman S.F.
-Scott Wiener, D, state senator
-Hadar Aviram, Israeli-born lawyer, UC Hastings professor



Only 28 deaths at San Quentin prison have been attributed to COVID-19. There's only been 1 new diagnosed case in the past month, a steep decline from where we were in May-June. People like Hadar Aviram have been anti-prison for many years, and why she would migrate from Israel to the US and exploit the pandemic to spring prisoners from jail is anybody's guess. The left have truly gone mad in the Golden State.
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"Israeli-born lawyer"?
 
Hmmm. Thanks. Was leaning toward ignore him, now sounds like he has done this line before and it's not a misunderstanding. So, ignore.
 
Anti-semites can &*^% off and die.
 
It sounds like the slow court system is ruling on something that is no longer an issue. But San Quentin does house minimum security prisoners, as well as maximum. Minimum security prisoners aren't generally a violence risk. Maybe they can manage it, but it sounds pretty crazy to me.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Does this include Bill de Blasio?
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Wait, I think I finally figured it out, did you photoshop Trump into a militaristic uniform to make up for when he didn't serve? Whatever army that uniform is from, have they cured bone spurs?
 
skeptic llc said:
Anti-semites can &*^% off and die.
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skeptic llc said:
"Israeli-born lawyer"?
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skeptic llc said:
Hmmm. Thanks. Was leaning toward ignore him, now sounds like he has done this line before and it's not a misunderstanding. So, ignore.
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Your avatar insinuates that a foreign threat to the safety and sovereignty of the US exists. So you're not opposed to xenophobia and bigotry, you're opposed to something else entirely. Aviram was indeed born in Israel, graduated in Jerusalem, and used her background in law to potentially release up to 1700 inmates from one of California's toughest prisons. Any rationally thinking American would ask himself or herself why an Israeli citizen moved from her home country in order to radically transform another country. Do you want to try again, or are you happy with running away from defending what you've said here?
 
MaryP said:
It sounds like the slow court system is ruling on something that is no longer an issue. But San Quentin does house minimum security prisoners, as well as maximum. Minimum security prisoners aren't generally a violence risk. Maybe they can manage it, but it sounds pretty crazy to me.
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Aviram has stated that many of the prisoners who will be getting out are lifers, convicted years ago for multiple rapes and murders. She says that priority will be given to older inmates that have served 25 years or more on their sentences, but we've witnessed violent inmates being released too early before, and these professional prison reformers like Aviram are never available for comment when an early release inmate rapes or kills again after being granted parole. They simply don't care about the outcomes, only the rhetoric involved with the anti-prison movement.
 
Keep them in jail and make them wear a mask.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
"radically transform"

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She's certainly radically transforming my state jred. What do you know about San Quentin? The guys in there are no joke, they're some of the worst offenders in the state. What do you think the effects of letting 1700 of these guys out will do to California?
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Arguing that a prison should not be overcrowded is not a radical transformation by any stretch of the imagination.
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Arguing that the health of convicted killers and rapists trumps the health of law abiding citizens is a radical position jred.
Should the State of California really risk finding out if these 1700 men are rehabilitated, over 28 deaths? The average citizen here lives in cramped overpopulated surroundings, and didn't commit a heinous crime in order to wind up in that situation.
 
truthatallcost said:
Arguing that the health of convicted killers and rapists trumps the health of law abiding citizens is a radical position jred.
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Good thing that isn't my position then, or that of the courts.

As mentioned in the article, they're not simply going to empty entire cell blocks:

"The appeals court judge says the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation must revise its expedited release programs to include inmates over age 60 who have served at least 25 years of their sentence and are eligible for parole. "

And if those men are in prison, not on death row, and die from a failure of the prison, then there is a miscarriage of justice.
 
truthatallcost said:
There's nothing of substance in a Grand Mal post. You once called Karl Marx, the father of communism, 'a dreamy philosopher', or whatever the quote was.
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That's right, I once called Marx something that you don't remember.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Good thing that isn't my position then, or that of the courts.

As mentioned in the article, they're not simply going to empty entire cell blocks:

"The appeals court judge says the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation must revise its expedited release programs to include inmates over age 60 who have served at least 25 years of their sentence and are eligible for parole. "

And if those men are in prison, not on death row, and die from a failure of the prison, then there is a miscarriage of justice.
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-none of the articles I've seen give a clear tally of how many inmates out of the 1700 will be released
- I don't trust Hadar Aviram and the lot of kosher connivers to really stop at getting seniors released. Scott Wiener for example has been behind dozens of laws written with the intent of helping criminals avoid prison, or receive early parole. He's another out-of-state vulture that swooped in to take advantage of a bad situation.
- The left wingers didn't seem to care when elderly people in nursing homes were dying at far greater numbers than the inmates are. As said previously, the health of convicted killers and rapists trumps the health of law abiding citizens, in the minds of radicals like Wiener and Aviram.
 
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truthatallcost said:
The dangerous far-left have been doing everything in their power to exploit the covid pandemic to accomplish their objectives.
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FEB 26
“And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
— Donald Trump
 
CaughtInThe said:
FEB 26
“And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
— Donald Trump
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I remember February quite well. American liberals weren't worried in the least about covid, and not because of something Trump said, as you all bash whatever he says regardless of whether its plausible or not.
You liberals have become the Branch Covidians since February, worshipping this disease as your last hope at salvation, the only thing that can bring about a Joe Bribeden victory from heaven.
 
truthatallcost said:
'Starry-eyed day dreamer'. You're like one of those people who start a sentence with, 'but Hitler was good at first..'
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No, I probably remarked that Marx was too academic for even academics to tolerate. Did you ever try to get through "Das Kapital"? No starry-eyed daydreamer could have produced such a ponderous, grossly overweight analysis of post industrial economics.
 
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