Judge Curiel Rules Trump Must Face Trial for Racketeering in Trump University Suit (1 Viewer)

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[FONT=&quot]Federal District Court Judge Gonzalo Curiel has ruled that Donald J. Trump, founder of Trump University, must face civil trial for fraud and racketeering under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (“RICO”). Trump had moved for summary judgment in a last-ditch effort to block a class-action trial scheduled to begin right after the national election. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Denying the motion, Judge Curiel ruled that there were genuine issues of material fact for trial as to whether Trump had personally committed fraud and racketeering. If Trump loses, he is liable for three times the damages suffered by the students who paid tuition. That is the bite of the RICO statute — triple damages. This could amount to many tens of millions of dollars.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In a much less important ruling, Judge Curiel denied the plaintiffs’ motion to make videotapes of Trump’s deposition public. The transcripts are already public, and have been for several weeks, having been made public by Judge Curiel in an earlier ruling. Judge Curiel ruled that while the public has an interest in watching his demeanor, it is not the usual practice to make videotapes public before trial, and the public already has the ability to read his words at the depositions.

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[coldjoint]

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And, dear fellow Kossacks, do not worry about legal firepower. The law firm representing the Cohen class is within the top rank in firepower and resources in the commercial class action field.

Judge Curiel Rules Trump Must Face Trial for Racketeering in Trump University Suit

And....

Now to be clear, Judge Curiel did not decide these issues of fact today, but he did decide that there is substantial evidence presented sufficient for the matter to proceed to trial.

Them’s the facts. Here’s my take.

So when is the trial? Has a suit or charge been filed for violating RICO? And "here's my take"? What a load of crap.

 

[digsbe]

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Good thing he's not Hillary Clinton who gets political immunity from blatant criminal actions :thumbs:

 

[gdgyva]

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civil suit

not criminal

big big difference

 

[Moot]

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Judge Curiel Rules Trump Must Face Trial for Racketeering in Trump University Suit

And....



So when is the trial? Has a suit or charge been filed for violating RICO? And "here's my take"? What a load of crap.

The trial is scheduled for November...right after the election.

Yes...two lawsuits have been filed and both are allowed to proceed to trial. But it's the Cohen v. Trump lawsuit that Trump needs to worry about because it charges him personally with fraud and racketeering under the RICO statute.

 

[Moot]

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Good thing he's not Hillary Clinton who gets political immunity from blatant criminal actions :thumbs:

Nonsense.

 

[coldjoint]

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The trial is scheduled for November...right after the election.

Yes...two lawsuits have been filed and both are allowed to proceed to trial. But it's the Cohen v. Trump lawsuit that Trump needs to worry about because it charges him personally with fraud and racketeering under the RICO statute.

So one is a criminal trial? I didn't know suits were filed in criminal cases, did you?

 

[Moot]

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So one is a criminal trial? I didn't know suits were filed in criminal cases, did you?

It's my understanding that if Trump is found guilty under the RICO act he can pay restitution to the plaintiffs. But it will likely ruin his brand.

 

[coldjoint]

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It's my understanding that if Trump is found guilty under the RICO act he can pay restitution to the plaintiffs. But it will likely ruin his brand.

In order to prosecute a RICO case, investigators need to establish evidence of the existence of a criminal organization.

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Good luck with that. And again RICO is not a civil matter, it is criminal.

 

[Moot]

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Good luck with that. And again RICO is not a civil matter, it is criminal.

Then you should wish Trump luck...since he's the one going to trial.

 

[coldjoint]

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Then you should wish Trump luck...since he's the one going to trial.

I'll wait until there are federal charges because RICO is federal crime.

 

[Casper]

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Good thing he's not Hillary Clinton who gets political immunity from blatant criminal actions :thumbs:

Or be convicted before ever being charged with anything.

 

[Moot]

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I'll wait until there are federal charges because RICO is federal crime.

Apparently, the RICO Act allows for a "civil cause of action".


Art Cohen vs. Donald J. Trump is a RICO[1] class action suit filed October 18, 2013[2] accusing Donald Trump of misrepresenting Trump University "to make tens of millions of dollars" but delivering "neither Donald Trump nor a university."[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen_v._Trump

The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly referred to as the RICO Act or simply RICO, is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization. The RICO Act focuses specifically on racketeering, and it allows the leaders of a syndicate to be tried for the crimes which they ordered others to do or assisted them in doing, closing a perceived loophole that allowed a person who instructed someone else to, for example, murder, to be exempt from the trial because he did not actually commit the crime personally.[1]..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

 

[coldjoint]

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Apparently, the RICO Act allows for a "civil cause of action".


Art Cohen vs. Donald J. Trump is a RICO[1] class action suit filed October 18, 2013[2] accusing Donald Trump of misrepresenting Trump University "to make tens of millions of dollars" but delivering "neither Donald Trump nor a university."[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen_v._Trump

The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly referred to as the RICO Act or simply RICO, is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization. The RICO Act focuses specifically on racketeering, and it allows the leaders of a syndicate to be tried for the crimes which they ordered others to do or assisted them in doing, closing a perceived loophole that allowed a person who instructed someone else to, for example, murder, to be exempt from the trial because he did not actually commit the crime personally.[1]..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

Good luck with that, too.

 

[Moot]

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Good luck with that, too.

I read Trump's deposition....and he's going to need all the luck he can get.

 

[coldjoint]

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I read Trump's deposition....and he's going to need all the luck he can get.

Not if he is president. In any case, his lawyers are no dummies.

 

[Casper]

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Not if he is president. In any case, his lawyers are no dummies.

Being President does not absolve one of criminal activity, ask the Clintons the Repubs tried Hard to get charges against them, heck they still are. If he was elected to the Oval Office, not likely, and he was convicted of a Felony he would be removed from office, period.

 

[coldjoint]

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Being President does not absolve one of criminal activity, ask the Clintons the Repubs tried Hard to get charges against them, heck they still are. If he was elected to the Oval Office, not likely, and he was convicted of a Felony he would be removed from office, period.

You really think that? It might have been true at one time.

 

[Casper]

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You really think that? It might have been true at one time.

I know that. Sooner or later we may see it proven.

 

[Moot]

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Not if he is president. In any case, his lawyers are no dummies.

The lawyers for the plaintiffs aren't dummies, either. The trial is set for November 28, 2016....and whoever is elected won't be sworn into office until January 2017.

 

[jimbo]

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Apparently, the RICO Act allows for a "civil cause of action".


Art Cohen vs. Donald J. Trump is a RICO[1] class action suit filed October 18, 2013[2] accusing Donald Trump of misrepresenting Trump University "to make tens of millions of dollars" but delivering "neither Donald Trump nor a university."[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen_v._Trump

The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, commonly referred to as the RICO Act or simply RICO, is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization. The RICO Act focuses specifically on racketeering, and it allows the leaders of a syndicate to be tried for the crimes which they ordered others to do or assisted them in doing, closing a perceived loophole that allowed a person who instructed someone else to, for example, murder, to be exempt from the trial because he did not actually commit the crime personally.[1]..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

The complete statement. I don't believe Trump has been charged with anything. Let alone tried.

 

[Moot]

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The complete statement. I don't believe Trump has been charged with anything. Let alone tried.

The trial is set for November 28, 2016.

 

[jimbo]

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The trial is set for November 28, 2016.

It's a civil suit. Not a trial.

 

[Moot]

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It's a civil suit. Not a trial.

It's a Federal Civil Lawsuit....and it's going to trial.


Cohen v. Trump :: California Southern District Court :: Federal Civil Lawsuit No. 3:13-cv-02519-GPC-WVG, Judge Gonzalo P. Curiel presiding

How To File A Lawsuit In Federal Court

 

[jimbo]

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I think this is just Vox being Vox. The judge's written ruling is online, and there is no mention of RICO. Instead focuses mostly on the release of documents and sets a trial date. Nor do any of the other articles mention Trump being charged under RICO, which is a criminal act.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/us/politics/trump-university-case.html

The Times. One example of a more accurate summation of the judge's ruling.